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Furious about Furiosa: Misogynists are losing it over Charlize Theron’s starring role in Mad Max: Fury Road

Original poster for the 1979 Mad Max
Original poster for the 1979 Mad Max

So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.

Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to

Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.

Er, “moray?”

As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.

Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”

Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)

Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!

[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.

Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

Clarey worries that

men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.

You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.

I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.

But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.

Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.

There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.

Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.

It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …

I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.

Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.

Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.

FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.

Always maintain your masculinity.

And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.

Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:

Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.

A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?

Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”

Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.

Clark Kent whines

Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.

To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.

What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?

Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.

MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.

And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…

Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.

And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.

TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.

Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.

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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:

The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.

Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.

My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.

Aw, fuck.

She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.

Fucking hell. A proud abuser.

I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!

No words.

In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.

I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)

I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.

But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:

Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!

Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.

I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@Banana Jackie Cake:

Oh, I know. But my point still stands; the very fact that something in a story doesn’t exactly mirror reality doesn’t make the choice of what to fictionalize some political corruption of art.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Banana Jackie Cake,
There were also stabs at American politics and G.W.Bush especially.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

Policy, sex roles emerged before the existence of the state.

You’re right, but they weren’t the ones you’re proclaiming here as “traditional.” The earliest pre-state societies ran the gamut. There were patriarchal societies, matriarchal ones, and egalitarian ones.

Damn, that’s my education speaking. I’m sorry for bringing up facts.

Sexual division of labor was a survival strategy. There is a reason by men were the hunters and protectors early in the emergence of human communities.

This completely ahistorical. Whoops, was that too big of a word for you? I apologize: I meant to say it demonstrates a complete lack of information about the past.

Technology, enabled greater female participation in non traditional roles.

Only if by “traditional” you mean “only applying the roles of middle and upper class women, because poor women have always worked, very hard, in fields that men today claim as being solely masculine, like coal mining and construction, so the only way you can claim that a woman’s traditional gender role was fundamentally different from a man’s is to erase the existence of non-wealthy women.”

You know, only if you define “traditional” like that.

Lady Mondegreen
Lady Mondegreen
9 years ago

I don’t see the “women as prizes and men as agents” notion. I see traditional sex roles depicted in art

Still grinning at this.

GhostBird
GhostBird
9 years ago

Why does all that take so long to change? Because of backwards thinking and gender role enforcement from people like you, AI.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Al, we’re talking about fiction. Fiction! Roving bands of maurauders in a post-apocalyptic society. What makes you think your preconceptions of reality have any bearing on what makes for a good or legitimate fictional story?

The only cohesive point I can draw from your posts is that you think action movies are a guy thing, and therefore they should only star guys. Why? To both questions.

katz
katz
9 years ago

Why is hunting an activity dominated by men?

Oh my god, he’s this close to literally saying “we hunted the mammoth for you.”

fromafar2013
9 years ago

Why are the fighting forces of the military dominated by men? Why is law enforcement dominated by a male presence? Why is hunting an activity dominated by men? Technology and opportunity is widely available but this dynamic persists

Because active hostile sexism up to and including rape and murder discourages women from entering these fields and prevents the women who do enter those fields from succeeding.

Why are elementary school faculties dominated by women in spite of the “push” to get more males as elementary school teachers.

Because toxic masculinity degrades and punishes men who adopt ‘traditionally feminine’ pursuits for being insufficiently ‘manly’.

-_-;

Are you new at this?

smithshadow
9 years ago

AlFromBayShore

It has recently been proven from the study of the teeth of some of our earliest ancestors, that females participated in hunting due to the groove marks. (Cannot remember the source but it was on a podcast by Dr Karl Kruszelnicki on JJJ, an Australian radio show). They did the gathering but also participated in the hunting.

To misquote you: “There is a huge chasm between what you say and what actually happened.”

Moocow
9 years ago

Aw, the trolls crawled out from under the bridge while I was away.

@AlFromBayShore

“I do believe that you are using big words and faux intellectualism to disguise the fact that you are trying to move me towards a topic unrelated to my commentaries.”

Wow, could you possibly project even harder? Here’s some food for thought: when you’re getting called out for using superfluously verbose vernacular, deciding to point the finger at those who are debunking your absurd argument might not be particularly perspicacious.

(hey look, I can use big words AND alliterations)

@Lea @fruitloopsie @Aunt Edna @Buttercup Q. Skullpants @GrumpyOldSocialJusticeMangina @Anyoneelseimissed

Thanks for the kind words :), I was able to cope in big part thanks to video games, and eventually learned (thanks to some great friends) that I don’t need external validation from a bunch of douchecannoes. I’ll be sure to point out more insights when they are relevant!

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
9 years ago

Lady Modegreen, I’ve read all four stories. There is an uncanny similarity between Celie and the females in the stories by Petrarch, Chaucer, and Boccacio. In fact, all four female characters are separated from their children by a dominant male. Mister first appears on a white horse in Color Purple indicating a stature. Mister is an inheritor of the legacy of the slave owner like the aristocratic males in the stories by Boccacio, Chaucer, and Petrarch. By the end of the story, Celie is reunited with her children like the females in the other stories. Walker, however, endows Celie with a nobility absent from the females in the other stories. Walker was shaped by the feminist climate in which she developed intellectually and this is apparent in The Color Purple. Read the stories for yourself and you’ll see both the similarities and the way Walker frames her novel around her ideas.

Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

Because active hostile sexism up to and including rape and murder discourages women from entering these fields and prevents the women who do enter those fields from succeeding.

Ironically it was rape that caused one of Britain’s most famous warriors to take up arms.

80,000 Romans would possibly take issue with the idea that women can’t be leaders and warriors.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

By the way, AlFromBayShore, your same appeal to tradition was used to defend such lovely institutions as slavery. You’re taking the system as it currently is and pretending it didn’t become that way through a political process, rather it fell into place naturally. Appeal to tradiction is a fallacy for a reason.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

Let’s observe the reality. Why are the fighting forces of the military dominated by men? Why is law enforcement dominated by a male presence? Why is hunting an activity dominated by men? Technology and opportunity is widely available but this dynamic persists.

Yep. It turns out that if you saturate media and society with the message that only men are allowed to be soldiers, and you actively turn away women who overcome that message and ask to join the military anyway, it turns out that the regular military winds up dominated by men. We call this a “self-fulfilling prophecy” in that new-fangled education-speak.

I know lots of women hunters, btw. That’s what happens when you grow up in the sticks. Pretty much every woman I knew growing up did some hunting. Again, you believe you’re making some kind of grand point when really you’re just arguing from ignorance.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

I love it when MRAs try to pretend that their objection to feeemales in movies come from high minded artistic ideals. Does the manosphere lament that the studio bigwigs forced Silent Hill to expand the role of Chris, Rose’s husband and have him be played by a name actor (Sean Bean) because they felt there needed to be a major male character? Talk of inorganic! I love Sean Bean and it’s no fault of his, but that movie would be improved by cutting him out.

And what about awkward whitewashing? Did the manosphere rage when The Last Airbender was whitewashed? Nope!

And since when have movies been devoid of political content? Has our little film buff never heard of Metropolis? Birth of a Nation?

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

@Al, fromafar said everything I would have said, if I weren’t busy right now lol. Thanks, fromafar ^_^

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
9 years ago

You may know “lots” of women hunters but which gender forms the majority? There are no gender restrictions on hunting.

M.
M.
9 years ago

Oh, hey, you want to talk Chaucer? I can do that.

Thou seyst, som folk desiren us for richesse
Somme for oure shape, and somme for oure fairnesse
And som for she kan outher synge or daunce
And som for gentillesse and daliaunce
Som for hir handes and hir armes smale
Thus goth al to the devel by thy tale.
Thou seyst, men may nat kepe a castel wal
It may so longe assailled been overal.
And if that she be foul, thou seist that she
Coveiteth every man that she may se
For as a spaynel she wol on hym lepe
Til that she fynde som man hir to chepe
Ne noon so grey goos gooth ther in the lake
As, seistow, wol been withoute make
And seyst, it is an hard thyng for to welde
A thyng that no man wole, his thankes, helde.
Thus seistow, lorel, whan thow goost to bedde
And that no wys man nedeth for to wedde
Ne no man that entendeth unto hevene
With wilde thonder-dynt and firy levene
Moote thy welked nekke be tobroke.
Thow seyst that droppyng houses, and eek smoke
And chidyng wyves maken men to flee
Out of hir owene hous, a! benedicitee.
What eyleth swich an old man for to chide?
Thow seyst, we wyves wol oure vices hide
Til we be fast, and thanne we wol hem shewe
Wel may that be a proverbe of a shrewe!

(Translation: MRAs are stupid. No, really.)

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Why are the fighting forces of the military dominated by men?

OK, I will answer this one, though it has nothing to do with film, art or anything else in this thread.

Could it be because women were not allowed to serve for some time and are still kept from action and positions that allow for advancement while simultaneously being raped and harassed by male soldiers in alarming numbers which their superiors do nothing about? Despite that women still make up around 8% of the US military. In countries that do not actively discourage women from service, the % is much higher.

If you think women have never been soldiers, you know nothing of the Vietnam War and the countless other wars before it. Pirate queens, empresses and female fighters have existed since the beginning and they will exist so long as humanity does. I know you want to believe you are super special because you’re a man, but you aren’t. You are no more or less capable because of your gender.
You know very little. You really should fix that. A library card is free. Look into getting one.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
9 years ago

@Kirby

The only cohesive point I can draw from your posts is that you think action movies are a guy thing, and therefore they should only star guys. Why? To both questions.

To be fair, we haven’t had a gay action hero yet.

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
9 years ago

Lady Modegreen, by the way, Celie and Nettie are symbolically the same person.

katz
katz
9 years ago

80,000 Romans would possibly take issue with the idea that women can’t be leaders and warriors.

Not to mention 800,000 Russians. (You were all just waiting for me to bring that up, weren’t you?)
http://38.media.tumblr.com/eed9874be8538fb5bfa7e8e297a4b79e/tumblr_no0vg5tDc11u3dnato4_r2_500.gif

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
9 years ago

Al
Women hunted, fought and were protecters too. You can look them up. And there are less women in military, law enforcement, etc fields because of the hostile environment like rape, violence etc caused by men. And there are less men in teaching because we degrade men who do traditional jobs that are for women and instead encourage them to do more dangerous and higher paying jobs.

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
9 years ago

Okay, it was real but I gotta go and put some finishing touches on a final exam I am giving next week. Peace out!

Catalpa
Catalpa
9 years ago

From Al, I have now learned that men and women naturally choose to go to the bathroom in geographically different locations, and that social pressure and societal norms have absolutely nothing to do with why we have men’s and women’s bathrooms.

In fact, everything is totally natural and nothing is an artifact of the culture in which we grew up in!

Except, you know, having women in action movies. THAT’S totally unnatural.

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