So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
Uh-huh. You just want to let you ass-ersions stand on their own? Well, as it has been pointed out those ass-ersions are incorrect and you have not backed them up with any competence.
So, why are you still here? The comment you are restricting yourself to is still there. If that’s all you have to say, you’ve said it. So you are still whining and evading why?
Relax? Joking?
HA!
I am so relaxed and no you weren’t. Don’t project you’re anxiety onto me. Unlike you, I can handle mine like a champ and you, fake film geek, do not make me anxious in the least. One of us knows what they’re talking about and it ain’t you. I’ve got no reason to be anything other than a tiny bit amused by you and that amusement is wearing thin. Not as thin as your excuses, but thin. I’m not answering your questions until you have answered every single one asked of you in this thread which you will not do because you cannot do it.
You’re dull in every sense of the word.
Lady Modegreen, I don’t know which story from Decameron was borrowed by Walker but she did remake that story. It’s the same story told by Chaucer and Petrarch. There is nothing fishy about this. Good authors tend to retell stories in their own style. Wright and Dreiser remade “Crime and Punishment” in their own styles.
Engage in some discourse?
“We Hunted The Hamburger” would certainly be a more accurate talking point…
kirby, I’m going to quote Farrakhan: you can deal with it or let it alone.
And how is that divorced from politics? In other words, I am asking you again, for like the 10th time, why these “traditional” “sex” “roles” are not political in nature, and/or why depicting them does not constitute a message.
The appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy. FYI.
Traditional sex roles are the norm in history, ergo they’re good and proper to show in film? News flash: rampant plague, nonstop social conflict up to and including war, and all sorts of fun repression, prejudice, and viciousness were also the norm in the white, European past. Just because something is ‘classic’ doesn’t put it out of reach of modern criticism, or else we’d all be sitting around lauding Achilles for his desecration of Hector’s corpse!
AlFromBayShore has regularly posted on RoK, The Federalist, National Review Online, RealClearPolitics, Roosh’s site, AVfM, and supports the Honey Badgers.
MRA GGer. Ban him already.
See, it wasn’t really that hard to answer, was it? So to you, men are inherently acters and women are inherently acted upon, and therefore anyone trying to put women in the acter position is shoving that in for political reasons. Am I understanding you properly?
Eh, when you claim to be interested in discourse and yet ignore almost every attempt at it, mocking you is how I deal. 🙂
Oh my aching sides!
Al, the traditional sex role men forced women into was that of prize and sex object. It is misogynist to argue that that is women’s proper place, even in fantasy fiction. Stop trying to sound like you know things. It isn’t working. You are in fact, a colossal wanker. you could change that if you chose. The problem is no one can teach you until you understand that you don’t know everything. Ooo-boy-howdy, do you need some education. For your own good, shut up.
Policy, sex roles emerged before the existence of the state. Sexual division of labor was a survival strategy. There is a reason by men were the hunters and protectors early in the emergence of human communities. Technology, enabled greater female participation in non traditional roles.
I think MRAs think “traditional” and “biological” are interchangable words, right? They aren’t, obviously, but my experience tells me MRAs think they are.
The story is “Patient Griselda” and “she did remake that story” is quite a stretch. If you’re going to claim she used it at all, she used it to subvert it, but that’s only if you assume that a story about an abused wife must automatically be a reworking of that particular piece of ancient folklore, which I find a stretch.
And I’m well aware that authors use and remake old stories. What’s fishy is you dropping names to try and make yourself sound like you know what you’re talking about. That may fly among MRAs, but not here. There are people here who actually do know what they’re talking about.
Oh, so you agree it has no place in modern society?
Even if “tradition” and “misogyny” were mutually exclusive, and even if traditional gender roles had some truth to them…
None of this explains why having a female actor in a movie about a fictional world is such a bad thing, and why it constitutes an invasion or a political statement. People traditionally can’t wave around sticks and shoot beams of death from them; that doesn’t make Harry Potter political.
@smithshadow
Excellent! If you watched Battlestar, I would definitely recommend Caprica. I actually watched Caprica first (it’s a prequel) and that’s what finally got me to watch Battlestar.
And now I really want to watch Caprica again…
@fruitloopsie “Spindrift
We should get rid of those terms “feminine” and “masculine””
Agreed, there’s no true right or wrong way to express gender so those gendered adjectives are kind of meaningless. We need more accurate words to describe behaviour.
Al, you aren’t a Neolithic hunter or a historian and it shows. For fuck sake, how do people even know this this little? Does it hurt? Do you work at it? Are you kept in a special chamber that keeps the facts out?
Al is once again diverging significantly from the initial comment that was the only thing he was going to say.
AlFromBayShore
The diminution of my name smacks of the condescension rife in the rest of your posts on this site.
At least we have an understanding of why you are here but each argument you have presented has many flaws and misdirection’s. Once again you have not answered the question posed by Policy of Madness four times.
It is puzzling why you continue to state you are sticking to your original commentary when it is clear you are not. If you have made the decision to stick to your original commentary, then do so, or cease the repetition of something which is not true, based on the evidence you have provided in your subsequent posts.
@Kirby
Harry Potter is actual, you know, really political. Professor Lupin’s condition (yep, spoiler free for a book that has been out for over a decade just for that one person that hasn’t read them yet) was a metaphor for AIDS, for instance. That’s straight from Pottermore.
Missive sent to the Dark Lord. Bootsy be praised!
*chuckle*
isadore, you can say that sexual division of labor has no place in society but that’s what you say. Let’s observe the reality. Why are the fighting forces of the military dominated by men? Why is law enforcement dominated by a male presence? Why is hunting an activity dominated by men? Technology and opportunity is widely available but this dynamic persists. Why are elementary school faculties dominated by women in spite of the “push” to get more males as elementary school teachers. There is a huge chasm between what you say and what actually happens.