So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
I call BS. If he doesn’t even know about Aunty Entity, he’s not a *real* fan! He’s just another fake geekboy pretending to like geeky things so real authentic geek girls will like him.
Sarcasm aside, though, if these guys knew how insecure it made them sound to write this stuff, they probably wouldn’t do it. It’s embarrassing for them.
@rugbyyogi, as someone who went through something similar, i’d encourage you to reach out to your friends, who are probably waiting for you to ask for help. It is likely closer than you think it is. You think they don’t know and don’t notice, but I bet you that they do, or if they don’t know the specifics, they know SOMETHING is wrong. If you haven’t talked to them in forever because of husband / baby / depression, and think that you can’t reach out because of that, they know that too.
luck.
Wow you give them way too much credit at that awful site.
I don’t know how you put up that nonsense.
RXM | May 13, 2015 at 12:11 am
“Return of Kings used to be funny to read occasionally for the schadenfreude of everyone’s pretend macho posturing. Now it’s just sad and frightening. I hate having to apologize for my gender so often. If they like how women are treated in Saudi Arabia so much, maybe they should all move there.”
No, the women there go through enough as it is. (Women go through enough in general) We should not encourage men to hurt women period. Catch them and then send them to jail.
My God, TS77RP1… Why is it that a lot of these bastards think antisocial behavior is “alpha” and healthy? We psychologists call it “antisocial” for a reason, because it is *against* society!
Note: I’m not diagnosing him. Being abusive is considered antisocial behavior.
Reblogged this on Lead us from the Unreal to the Real and commented:
I saw a pre-screening of Mad Max: Fury Road last night and I was pleasantly surprised to see that atop all its blood, dirt and grime, Feminism furiously screams.
Oh happy day!
Ridiculous to hear this on Mad Max given Aunty Entity and Savannah Nix in Thunderdome.
Some much needed Brain Bleach
http://whatever.scalzi.com/2015/05/12/reader-request-week-2015-3-raising-strong-women/
http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=137972&cid=11540433
Thirds on Nausica, and pretty much the rest of the Ghibli and CLAMP cannon.
And of course Ivanova!
Monopole
That was amazing, she sent me into a portel of awesomeness.
Here’s a post-apocalyptic film that will really put their knickers in a twist. Not a single man or white person in it.
“If you believe that [TS77RP1 is/was genuine] maybe you should question your rational capacities.”
Alright, let’s do it. Beginning “rational capacities” test:
There are two options for two fields, here, creating four outcomes. In this case, because the ultimate purpose of rationality is to justify moral action, let’s group the outcomes as “Good” and “Bad”.
“Good” – TS77 was genuine, and you reported him. The possibility of action taken against a dangerous, unstable person increase, and three other people may have their lives not totally ruined!
“Good” – TS77 was a troll, and you did not report him. Results in you saving face to some faceless Discus moderator or goliath federal agency lowbie!
“Bad” – TS77 was a troll, and you reported him. Results in one person having one account banned, and they have to make a new one, OR no action taken. You feel ashamed and humiliated because you were wrong and TS77 won against you, and moderators saw and chuckled behind their screens at you! Maybe!
“Bad” – TS77 was genuine, and you did not report him. No possibility of action taken against TS77 in real life, and he carries his real-life abuse onto the internet to show to other people because his account stays up.
There are two catches, though! You can only choose ONE of the above actions, AND you have no way to verify if TS77 is genuine! Which “Good” is best, and which “Bad” is worst? Do you choose for the best “Good”, or to avoid the worst “Bad”?
Thus do we see that this is not a question of impaired logistics, as you erroneously believed, but a question of whether or not you are socially stunted, refusing to take action to help people obviously in dire straits because you risk getting internet-shamed. Oops.
PS: Who wins in trolling games? Haha, trick question! There is no winner in the trolling games! Troll “winning” only results in an ephemeral, transient high which disappears and leaves the troll empty and low again, creating an even greater desire to troll than before.
“I love strong women in fantasy, sci-fi, and horror but, I’ve noticed sexist attitudes even among fans who like these characters too. Male characters can be tough and still make a lot of mistakes and have flaws. Those flaws just make them interesting and three dimensional. But the tough women have to be just about flawless because if they make a big misstep or have less than noble attributes, it will be taken as evidence that they’re awful people.
For example, the two main characters the ASOIAF fan community are hardest on are Daenerys and Catelyn. Both have their ardent supporters, especially Dany, but they get the most vitriol. Male characters who have made mistakes and done ethical things, not so much. It’s not like the flaws of Jaime, Tyrion, and Jon are never discussed. They are. But not quite so intensely.”
Well, it’s kind of like the male “anti hero” being so popular, right? Tony Soprano was deeply flawed, but beloved. While Carmela Soprano was a dumb bitch when she wanted to divorce him.
As an aside, I was reading about the manosphere being upset about mad max today (it’s got a 90% Fresh rating on rotten tomatoes – stick that in your pipe and smoke it!) and that led me to the horrible, horrible archive on reddit of “ask a rapist”. I don’t think there’s enough brain bleach to get over the stories I read. It was truly horrific to read.
Arobin08,
“Wow, those guys are scum. But honestly, I was disappointed that Furiosa was in fact the star and central focus while Max was in fact a supporting character who wasn’t central to the plot in any way. And the next ones called Mad Max: Furiosa so she’ll be the central focus of that one too. She’s a great character, there is nothing wrong with badass women in action movies, seriously more please. But in a Mad Max movie, I honestly would prefer that he be the star. Also, every woman in the movie was a pure noble innocent who never did anything morally questionable, that was kinda lame. A female villain or two in the evil horde would have been great. Does that make me as bad as those creeps?”
I haven’t seen any of the mad max movies, so I can’t speak to the first part of your post. But the second part – there’s absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a fully fleshed out female character, one that makes mistakes, one that isn’t purely good or evil. You know, a female character that’s basically a real person.
In my opinion, no, it doesn’t.
Having the title “Mad Max” does mean that movie-goers are going to bring some expectations to the table of who the movie is going to be about, not only new people to the franchise, but the die-hard fans as well. Though, with the sequel, it does give the impression that she’ll be the focus of that movie too, but at least they’ve warned you about it beforehand.
And female villains are almost always good. Ain’t no shame in being a female henchperson.
(And it’s part of feminism to accept that not all women are delicate little flowers who can do no wrong as well, so there’s that too.)
Meh, I don’t mind that the movie is less about Mad Max. Yes, the franchise is named after him, but it’s also a distinctive world with a lot of other recognizable elements. So this doesn’t bother me the way it would bother me if there was, say, a Dirty Harry movie where Harry wasn’t the main character.
Anyone else really excited for the Suicide Squad coming out? I love Harley and I think Margot Robbie is going to be incredibly awesome. I hope she’s super kick ass in the movie. I’m very cautiously optimistic.
Veering off-topic here, but I don’t dislike Catelyn as a character; indeed, her reactions and motivations are pretty understandable.
But I really really dislike her as a viewpoint character. Reading her chapters was like pulling teeth, I found them incredibly dull. She didn’t really seem to have any ambition outside of wanting to shut her and her family safely away from everything else. Which is a perfectly reasonable goal in the crapsack world they inhabit, but it’s really not interesting to read in the least. Maybe my issue with her was that she’s TOO sensible. Trainwrecks are more entertaining.
But that’s just my opinion.
Katz – Thanks. That was awesome!
http://i.imgur.com/mNmH8j2.png
Also there are screencaps of ts77
Whelp, that movie certainly did make it rain. ON MY FACE.
KATZ HOW COULD YOU DROP KICK ME IN THE HONEY-NUT FEELIOS LIKE THAT?
Sorry, should have mentioned how that movie will make you feel ALL THE FEELINGS.
But the whole point of the original Terminator movie was that Sarah Connor needed to be rescued so that she could become the badass mother who is SOLELY responsible for the existence and training of their brilliant general. And for a so-called damsel in distress, she’s pretty badass in the first movie. Considering she’s a young waitress who’s being chased by an unstoppable killing machine, she does an incredible job keeping her cool. It’s all right there from the start. What can the new movie possibly be derailing? Shouldn’t the whole franchise be considered evil feminist propaganda?
Great female characters may be few and far between, but they and their messages have been “Trojan Horsed” into cultural mainstays since the beginning of storytelling, not to mention movie making.
@Shaenon
I’m wondering why they would even see Avengers 2. How did they miss this in the first Avengers movie, Iron Man 2, and Thor? After all that, they should have seen what was coming and skipped Avengers 2. Vicious and dominating hand to hand and long distance sniping are the Black Widow and Hawkeye’s schtick, respectively. It absolutely makes no sense to have Hawkeye be in the thick of things. He would lose his defining trait. Talk about shoehorning things in to further agendas. Why would they even see a movie directed by Joss Whedon (infamous feminist director/writer)? Shouldn’t he already be on their blacklist?
These people are just very confused about their movies.
@Arobin08
I think the first movie was really all about Max. The second movie has him dragged into someone else’s war over gas and the third is over someone else’s war over Bartertown and about the children’s welfare at the end. Mad Max has been more of a plot device that let’s you see the post-apocalyptic wasteland than a main movie character for two of his movies.
I found reading TS77RP1’s posts in the voice of the Earl of Lemongrab made them a lot easier to stomach.
Firstly, Tina Turner looked damn good in chainmail. Secondly, the Issue got muddied because in the American release they dubbed Mel Gibson’s voice because he had an Australian accent. How stupid was that? Thankfully didn’t do that in the Road Warrior.
I would go see it just to spite those bastards. 🙂 and that Eve Elsler helped with it (if that’s true) all the better (I have been a part of and led her One Billion Rising flash mobs every year for the past 5 years…http://www.onebillionrising.org/resources/music-video-resource-page/