So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
Blockquote mammoth!
*shakes fist*
That post by Aaron Clarey just made my brain hurt. Sadly it appears that the prophetic piece of futuristic vision that is the film Idiocracy, is starting to happen right now.
Lea, AMEN. I have a feeling the blockquote mammoth is going to get indigestion from all the awfulness quoted in this thread.
What about the other RoK commenters who believed him? Shouldn’t troll be questioning their rational capacities too?
And if it really is “satire”, then why delete his Disqus history? I love how it’s all just lighthearted, lulzy trolling until there’s a threat of law enforcement getting involved, then suddenly it’s WOAH RUN FOR THE HILLS.
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants:
My initial reaction was the same, partially because I grew up around a lot of conservative Christians, many of whom were patriarchal in varying degrees, but whose blood would still run cold to see that guy’s comment. For all of the problems and dysfunction in that approach to family life, the people I knew sincerely believed that they were doing what was best to create a happy, successful family.
But then I had to stop (and suppress a bit of knee-jerk #notallchristian-ing) and go, wait. I’m not seeing this dude in public, where there’s at least some expectation of politeness. I’m not seeing him while he is trying to groom a target. I’m seeing him on a forum where he knows he will have an eager audience for his most extreme anti-woman vitriol. Yeah, that could mean he’s just a troll looking to mop up some internet points, but—you know, I’ve never seen an abuser in a context where he can expect to get high fives for being abusive. …Maybe when that happens, they talk like this.
He deleted his comments? Could disqus have done it? He was reported to them as well as to the FBI.
I don’t doubt that he’d delete his comments as soon as he found out he had the attention of people whop don’t think beating little girls is something to be proud of.
Like I said, he’s a coward. Anyone who has to hit kids to feel in control is a coward.
There is something I taught my kids about dealing with our Rottie while he was still alive. “Don’t get behind him and push. You’ll never move him. Get in front and call. He’ll come.”
Leaders get out in front. They don’t have to push. They sure don’t have to abuse people into submission.
Because law enforcement is one of the few institutions that are not affected by the “lol it’s a joke!” card and will still seek to pursue information about the individual. I guess TS77 is afraid of what they might find?
I was thinking, actually, how do abusers view the connection between their abuse and the law? They think that their behaviour is justified in the grand scheme of things, but do they have a sort of “they just don’t understand how things should work” attitude towards authorities? Do they see the cops as some sort of annoying blight that they need to avoid, nevertheless the abuser is right and the law is wrong?
Hey! I’m a secretary and I’m a lot of things but subordinate is not one of them!
Fuck this guy. (I also think he’s a big fat faker)
@Lea
It’s possible Disqus did delete his account or ban him, but it does make things harder for the authorities since the primary evidence is now gone…if it was him that did it, I’m not sure HOW he found out but like I said, we have lurking MRAs here so it’s possible one of them told him what we’ve been doing.
“You to trolled so hard by the commenter espousing ‘total subservience’ from his daughter and talking about belting her. If you believe that (albeit feel written) diatrie maybe you should question your rational capacities.”
Errm! One could go on for ages with real criminal cases that are highly similar. Then again, I’ve seen the end results in real life, such a lass whose entire body was covered in cigaratte burns from her uncle – she had to be made to conform – or the girl who came home one day to find out that Daddy had made a paddle for her with her name done in pokerwork on it. And these are just the nicer ones . . . 🙁
sunnysombrera,
Oh yeah. They watch this blog. They would definitely rush to protect an abusive father. In the meantime they will continue to claim that women steal men’s children by making up false abuse allegations.
They know the abuse is real. They want it to be real. They love women and girls (and non-conforming men) being hurt. That’s how the world they dream of works. They only pretend they think men are not abusing their families. Really, they want to protect a man’s “right” to beat and demoralize women and girls. Luckily, they’re too stupid to be anything but transparent.
Not All Road Warriors!
Eh, we’ve already taken in Ken Ham and Ray Comfort. What’s one more Aussie religious crank?
Oh, it was all a joke! Silly little us. I’ll stop being concerned, then. After all, it’s not like these all for the lulz types give cover to dudes who actually do believe and do the kind of shit that Mr. Number and Letter Salad espoused in his dearly departed comment history. Or that sometimes people post vile imaginary screeds online before they actually do go out and commit horrible acts in real life. Oh, my poor little ladybrain reels!
High fives, Miss Diketon! I worked as a secretary and receptionist for quite a while, too. Anyone who views administrative staff as meek and subservient has never actually worked in an office. Piss the admin off and just see what happens, sir.
That reminds me of that post David had a while back where a salesman insisted that professional women never actually worked because all of his female contacts were miraculously never there when he called. Consensus of opinion was that the women were totally there, they just didn’t want to talk to him. I’m now considering the possibility that the guy never got through to the boss because he’d been an utter toad to her assistants or the receptionist.
Tangentally related to Mr. TMZ123’s opinions about woman doctors: when my daughter broke her elbow a few years back, her very skilled surgeon at the children’s hospital was a woman (the surgical resident who was working with her mentioned *twice* how pleased he was to have her for a mentor). A little girl who broke her elbow from active play, and was then made good as new by a woman surgeon? Must be misandry of the highest order!
@sunnysombrera
Yeah, that’s pretty much it, as far as I have seen. Generally abusers see nothing wrong with their abuse, and believe that it’s their right to act in this fashion, or that their victims ‘ deserve’ or even want it. Law enforcement is seen as a delusional white knight type organization, one that just doesn’t understand or is in the grips of some conspiracy against the abuser. Usually there’s a big helping of ‘ my forefathers could have done this without repercussion and it is the fault of this terrible, stupid generation that a natural and traditional behavior is now outlawed!’
@Catalpa and sunnysombrera
Yeah, it’s interesting. Authoritarian types tend to revere authority, until it clashes directly with their beliefs. If they’re dominionist Christians, Christian “law” will always trump earthly law (earth being temporary and corruptible). They feel perfectly justified, even Biblical, in skirting the authorities. I wonder if that’s one reason so many of them home-school, avoid professional medical care, limit secular activities, etc. Fewer outside contacts means less risk of a mandated reporter noticing signs of abuse and interfering with their domestic arrangement.
Disqus is pretty good about deleting accounts reported for abuse, so this may be why his is gone. Fear not (ugh), he’s probably already on it with a new moniker and same ol’ s***, though probably a tad less forthcoming in the beginning.
@sunnysombrera:
Abusers like him *always* feel justified in their abuse. It is the cops, the whole justice system, and the society that condemns their abusive ways who are in the wrong. Cops consider domestic violence situations to be among most dangerous for them, and many do get attacked when coming to the aid of the victims.
@rugbyyogi:
I second others’ good wishes and hope that you stay strong. Time does bring change.
The guys who are attracted to redpillianism are deeply insecure in their masculinity. And as that ideology puts the blame for their fears and worries, especially sexual, on the shoulders of women, it is immediately attractive.
One possible reason a husband would be especially attracted to that nonsense right after the birth of his child is the change in sexual dynamics between the couple: she is no longer just his wife whose attentions, predominantly sexual, should be focused on him, but primarily a new mother now, preoccupied 24/7 with the needs of their newborn. That leaves the already insecure husband more frustrated than usual, sexually most of all; and if he is primed to seek “wisdom” of other insecure and frustrated men, online and off, who tell him that “yeah, AWALT and it’ll only get worse,” then he’s hooked because now it all makes sense (or so they believe).
You said:
“While I think that TSx (can’t be bothered to keep typing out the name) is on the extreme edge of the manosphere shit”
I see his views as typical for the sphere. The manuresphere, the whole of it, is extreme s***; it is those who are not as extreme as that creep who are a rarity there.
You can pick any manuresperic site at any moment and find there multiple participants who espouse exactly the same abusive “philosophy.” Although it’s been a while since I perused it, I can name right off the bat several manurespherian regulars who openly advocate physical abuse and degradation of women (msimon, xplat, greyghost, The Shadowed Knight, tillikum; others’ “names” escape me now, but I’d recognize them if I logged on to, say, Dalrock) on various sites. And whenever they do this, their “advice” is always received with a warm welcome — no one ever objects, and they usually get high-fived in one way or another.
Degradation of women, up to and including physical abuse, is a feature of redpillianism. It is one of its core tenets. Redpillianism seeks to strengthen masculinity precisely by degrading — controlling and dominating — women, basing its sick practice on a “scientific (evo-psych, lol) finding” (propped, if needed, by the Biblical proscription) that “real” women crave domination and “real” men provide it.
TSx is only a relative exception in his openness. He expresses what every manurespherian believes, even if not all put their specific beliefs into everyday practice.
So unnecessary. Any LEGITIMATE claim against Charlize Theron’s role needs only 2 words:
“Aeon Flux.”
@Catalpa:
“Law enforcement is seen as a delusional white knight type organization, one that just doesn’t understand or is in the grips of some conspiracy against the abuser.”
A.k.a “gynocracy” and “Feminine Imperative.”
“Usually there’s a big helping of ‘ my forefathers could have done this without repercussion and it is the fault of this terrible, stupid generation that a natural and traditional behavior is now outlawed!’”
Yup. Also see above.
Virginia Hey played the the role of the refinery settlement’s best warrior in The Road Warrior (she dies a rather brutal death). In Thunderdome, Tina Turner’s “Aunty Entity” rules Bartertown and is an Amazon like figure who takes somewhat of a hands-on approach at the end. So each of the previous post-apocalyptic installments features a warrior-like woman in a prominent role. This latest installment would be following that trend.
Edit (sigh):
1. “You can pick any *manurespheric* site”…
2. “Redpillianism seeks to strengthen masculinity precisely by degrading — controlling and dominating — women, basing its sick practice on a “scientific (evo-psych, lol) finding” (propped, if needed, by the Biblical proscription) that “real” women crave domination and “real” men provide it, *and a conviction that this — control and domination of women — is the ‘proper’ way to organize human society and maintain civilization.*”
There. Sorry.
@Saje Williams:
“Relationships may cause pain, but they rarely cause brain damage.”
Line of the day. 🙂
@rugbyyogi,
I’m really sorry about to hear about your spouse and the redpill. That sounds awful.
As for the rest of this, it always amazes me when these guys rail against the very existence of female action heroes when their existence clearly doesn’t undermine or erase the existence of male action heroes. Hell, there are still way more male action heroes than female action heroes, and most of the action heroes and villains in the Mad Max will still be male! Having Charlize Theron as the female co-lead (and apparently, her arc is the primary arc in the film, although Mad Max is still very much present and does speak lines in the trailers–hell, he even narrates the fucking opening) doesn’t so much as even the playing field overall because male action heroes still vastly outnumber female action heroes. Hell, it doesn’t even really level the playing field within her own movie. But these assholes act like having things become slightly less unequal will destroy their precious, precious masculinity.
It’s also pretty illogical of them to bring up the whole “men are generally stronger than women” thing in a movie where there’s only one woman who appears to be physically competitive with the men around her. I mean, they could just as easily see her as the exception to their own rules. But of course they can’t do that, because any time a woman gets anything, she’s taking away from them by not being subservient enough.
Wow, those guys are scum. But honestly, I was disappointed that Furiosa was in fact the star and central focus while Max was in fact a supporting character who wasn’t central to the plot in any way. And the next ones called Mad Max: Furiosa so she’ll be the central focus of that one too. She’s a great character, there is nothing wrong with badass women in action movies, seriously more please. But in a Mad Max movie, I honestly would prefer that he be the star. Also, every woman in the movie was a pure noble innocent who never did anything morally questionable, that was kinda lame. A female villain or two in the evil horde would have been great. Does that make me as bad as those creeps?
megpie71 : You kind of *have* to throw Farscape into the mix, what with Virginia Hey (Zhaan) being a warrior woman in Mad Max 2…
“Jade is basically GamerGate, and Anita is glorifying her for taking down EXACTLY THE KIND OF COVER-UP ANITA HERSELF IS INVOLVED IN. My sides are in orbit. There HAS to be some way of making this blow up in her face from a PR point of view.”
Somebody’s gotta let this guy know, if only for his own health and safety, that not everybody’s going to get that connection, principally because it doesn’t exist.