So you may have heard vague rumors that there’s a new Mad Max film coming out. You also may have heard that it stars Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa alongside Tom Hardy as Mr. Max.
Well, the manly men of the Manospshere are having none of it. On the always terrible Return of Kings, the most-trafficked blog in the Manosphere, Youtube bloviator Aaron Clarey issues a clarion call to his fellow right-thinking men, urging them to
Not only REFUSE to see the movie, but spread the word to as many men as possible. … Because if [men] sheepishly attend and Fury Road is a blockbuster, then you, me, and all the other men (and real women) in the world will never be able to see a real action movie ever again that doesn’t contain some damn political lecture or moray about feminism, SJW-ing, and socialism.
Er, “moray?”
As Clarey sees it, the central flaw in this film that he hasn’t seen is, well, it’s going to be starring Charlize Theron as a shaven-headed postapocalyptical badass named Furiosa. And that’s just not right, because everyone knows that women are just too damn womeny to be postapocalyptical badasses.
Even worse: in one of the trailers for the film “Charlize Theron’s character barked orders to Mad Max. Nobody barks orders to Mad Max.”
Clarey also reports, with a kind of growing horror, that none other than Eve Ensler, of Vagina Monologues fame, was brought in to consult on the film. (And trust me, Clarey’s discomfort with Ensler has nothing to do with her issues with intersectionality.)
Sure, Clarey acknowledges, Fury Road — at least on the surface — “looks like that action guy flick we’ve desperately been waiting for where it is one man with principles, standing against many with none.” But, he warns, despite not having actually seen even a minute of the actual film, nothing could be further from the truth!
[L]et us be clear. … This is the Trojan Horse feminists and Hollywood leftists will use to (vainly) insist on the trope women are equal to men in all things, including physique, strength, and logic. And this is the subterfuge they will use to blur the lines between masculinity and femininity, further ruining women for men, and men for women.
Lines between masculinity and femininity blurring! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Clarey worries that
men in America and around the world are going to be duped by explosions, fire tornadoes, and desert raiders into seeing what is guaranteed to be nothing more than feminist propaganda, while at the same time being insulted AND tricked into viewing a piece of American culture ruined and rewritten right in front of their very eyes.
You might think that someone this worried about the legacy of the original Mad Max might have noticed somewhere along the way that Mad Max is not actually a “piece of American culture” at all. It was an Australian film, filmed in Australia, directed by an Australian, and starring an American citizen who’d been living in Australia since the age of twelve.
I’m guessing that the director of Fury Road might have a somewhat more nuanced understanding of the original Mad Max than someone who doesn’t even know what country the movie was made in, especially given that the director of Fury Road, the director of the original Mad Max, the director of The Road Warrior and the director of Beyond Thunderdome are actually all the very same person.
But over on Return of Kings the fellas are as furious about Furiosa as Clarey is. In the top comment to Clarey’s piece, with several dozen upvotes, someone calling himself “truth” complains that the evil feminists who run Hollywood are ignoring the immutable truths of gender.
Hollywood is a garbage propoganda machine which spews out this feminist drivel filth into the minds of today’s young audience. Even though science has told us and proven, that men are physically stronger than women, it is nonetheless discarded by the forces driving this feminist nonsense.
There is a sick agenda at play here, and it only continues to get worse over time. First this, and now the upcoming “Terminator Genisys” which shows Sarah Connor in a more heroic and superior position to that of Kyle Reese, really makes me wonder how much further down the toilet society is going to go down, in it’s ridiculous attempts to try and reverse the traditional gender and biological roles.
Because “traditional” and “biological” roles always seem to be the exact same thing to these guys.
It is clear that the brainwashing of the masses will continue to go on with the promotion of these absurd movies in conjunction with the whole “girl power” themes that are present in these films. Furthermore, factor in the indoctrination of the liberal schooling and educational system, there is no doubt, that masculinity will be attacked from all sides in attempt to make the female gender more superior. …
I guess from the damage that I am seeing on a daily basis being inflicted by the feminist movement, there is really no turning back. Men will continue to opt out of society and by rejecting to watch these kind of movies, can help to further cement this narrative. And if ever, should the manginas and white knights reach that epiphany when they realise they are not perceived as a credible voice in this feminist driven gynocentric matriarchy that we live in, then even they will opt out of society.
Huh. And, let me guess, once the men all “opt out of society,” it’ll collapse in a giant heap and desperate women will turn to men for help? No wonder these guys are so angry about Fury Road; it challenges their favorite apocalyptic fantasy. Call it Mad Max: I Told You Bitches You’d Come Crawling Back to Me.
Women and feminists in general have without a doubt, proven that they are dysfunctional by nature and cannot be trusted with anything. And this movie helps to prove it.
FWIW, dude, the movie was directed by a man. It was written by men. And even though it’s got a lot more women in it than your typical action movie, most of the named actors in it are male. But apparently, to guys like Clarey and “truth,” it only takes a few drops of female blood to contaminate an entire action film.
Always maintain your masculinity.
And once again it’s the guys who think of themselves as the most macho who are the ones most anxious about their masculinity.
Truth is also horrified by one of the posters he’s seen for the film:
Even though the movie is called “Mad Max”, the poster clearly centres around Charlize Theron, while Tom Hardy looks like some ordinary guy in the background.
A woman’s face … in front of a man’s face! Can masculinity survive this terrible assault?
Slashfund complains that in the poster it “looks like he is wearing a muzzle like her bitch.”
Well, not really. Anyone who’s seen the original Max Max and its first two sequels may remember that a lot of the characters wore weird headgear and creepy masks; this was intended to make them look scary and, you know, postapocalyptic. Max’s new mask is no different.
Clark Kent whines
Where I can’t stand these female characters in kickass movies is when it is so damn obvious that they are forcing the female character in just to appeal to the blue-pill masses. The whole point of Mad Max is that he is the most hardened self-respecting man in the post-apocalyptic world. He lived through the decline, and thus carries all the grief of having been strong enough to see what the world has become.
To turn Mad Max upside down and make it into a feminist flick is horribly telling of our times. Rather than creating new films to depict the world from a women’s perspective, we take the great myths of men and boys and rewrite them to make women happy.
What? Mad Max is a “great myth of men and boys” now? It’s a movie made in 1979, not a tale told around the campfire by our ancient ancestors. And don’t any of you Return of Kingers remember Beyond Thunderdome, the second Mad Max sequel, released six years after the original? You know, the one co-starring Tina Turner, stomping around like a badass as the ruthless ruler of Bartertown?
Like it or not, fellas, but badass women are part of Mad Max canon.
MajorStyles, for his part, suggests that the film may be part of a sinister plot to con men into liking women with (gasp!) short hair — a major Manosphere bugaboo.
And what’s the end game of all this horse shit? That Alpha men will start finding bald, androgyonous women with anger issues attractive? Yeah, when pigs fly…
Again, another fail on the part of Team Feminism. As it has been noted many times, they do not get to order men what to be attracted to. Erections cannot be legislated. Only a man of supreme thirst would find this angynous thing attractive.
And the women who choose to impersonate Theron’s look in this movie will always be relagated to the same position – bridesmaid, cat lady, or beta male abuser.
TS77RP1, meanwhile, wants his fellow men to think of the children. And what he thinks about the children — specifically, those of the female persuasion — is genuinely horrifying.
Seriously: if you’re having a decent day so far, or, hell, a crappy one — basically, if you’re a having any sort of day so far, you may want to skip the rest of this post. No joke.
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Ok, if you’re still with me, here we go:
The only way back is to begin punishing ambition in our daughters and in all female children. They need to be physically and psychologically disciplined to be servile and deferential and they unfortunately need to have it beaten into them that they should NEVER trust their own judgement and always seek guidance and permission of their male headships.
Please tell me this monster doesn’t have a daughter.
My daughter would be turned out with nothing but a shirt on her back if she so much as looked at a college website or played with her brother’s educational toys.
Aw, fuck.
She would be belted to the point of being unable to sit if she exhibited confidence in decision making.
Fucking hell. A proud abuser.
I don’t want my wife to step foot out of the house unless her every dime and minute spent can be accounted for and executed in conjuncture with my approval. My daughter will exude obedience and timidity for whoever her future husband is and it’s imperative that all Christian Men demand nothing less within their own homes. Playtime for feminazis and the left is over. This is our world and our heritage to protect. Let the cultural war begin!
No words.
In a followup comment, he assures one skeptic that his wife and daughter are indeed real.
I do in fact implement this in my own home and practice what I preach vehemently. I have a daughter and sons and they are being raised to know that they are unequivocally different and 100% not equal. My wife is from a highly devout family and she was cowed long ago into obedience by her powerful, alpha father. I kinda won the life lottery >:^)
I can only hope that he’s bullshitting in an attempt to impress the Return of Kings regulars.
But impress them he does, winning upvotes and an awestruck comment by englishbob:
Wow! Its like you have a mini Saudi Arabia right in your home!
Apparently hatred of women trumps hatred of Muslims on Return of Kings.
I have no idea if Mad Max: Fury Road is actually going to be a good film. But I hope it does well, very well, if for no other reason than to spite these assholes.
Sorry, have these guys been sleeping through Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, Terminator 2, Supergirl, the Avengers, Age of Ultron and in fact most of the “action” genre for the past decade or so?
You’ll be happy to know that the comments are full of guys arguing over whether these and other action movies are excessively feminist. A lot of them like the Alien and Terminator movies because they grew up with them, while others hate them for having competent female characters.
A lot of them are pissed that Black Widow is portrayed as a valuable member of the Avengers, and particularly that she’s stronger than Hawkeye. Never mind that every other male member of the team is stronger than her; if there’s one man who can’t beat her up, FEMINIST LIES! Sample post:
I noticed in the Avengers 2 , that Hawk-eye is the Supporting Role standing at a distance shooting from a Safe Location, while Black-widow is right in the Action kicking and Judo Flipping Grown Men around like Rag Dolls, I think they Got it wrong and Hawk-eye should have been the One Kicking ass and Black-Widow should have been Suppor- in the kitchen.
Yes, Hawkeye was standing at a distance to make him look less badass than Black Widow, and not because, you know, he’s an archer. (All of this guy’s posts are capitalized and punctuated like this. Apparently feminists stole his lowercase letters.)
TS77RP1 comments appear to have been deleted.
Unfortunately I missed the warning in the post above and read those comments. While I think that TSx (can’t be bothered to keep typing out the name) is on the extreme edge of the manosphere shit, I think it shows how this toxic thinking can evolve and grow and finds a happy home in the agar of RedPillism.
These guys don’t have to be extreme as TSx to have a toxic effect either. While this world view may have been somewhat attractive to my spouse for a while, I think he really started reading more than just the more ‘palatable’ edges of this stuff around the time our son was born. I’m not sure why. Maybe because we actually know the guy IRL who has published work about men being more intelligent than women. Maybe he turned to manosphere because he felt uncomfortable modelling masculinity to a son (he’s not ‘traditionally’ masculine) My personal fave is that he couldn’t handle the responsibility of parenting and searched for a philosophy that excused him from a hands-on role. Maybe it’s all of these.
Anyway, he started spouting this manosphere shit. At first quite insidiously. I was busy with poor health and a new baby and an unhelpful and increasingly unsupportive to emotionally abusive spouse to really notice what he was doing. I did start to notice that he was obsessed with intelligence differences across races to the extent that I had to ask him to stop talking about it because it was making me extremely uncomfortable (he didn’t react well to that.) Looking back I can now see his thinking increasingly infected by this stuff. It must have been quite comforting. Everything that wasn’t right could either be blamed on me personally or on my masculine ways (I’m maybe not ‘traditionally’ feminine) or on my feminist thinking. He constantly went on at me about not taking his surname in marriage until I said “If you don’t like having a wife with a different last name than you, we can fix that.” Since then he’s gone a bit more underground with it again and basically I avoid engaging with him on topics like this at all, because it upsets me so much.
At any rate, he’s never approached the TSx level of horror, but his thinking and his commentary and the way he retreated from partnership has had an absolutely devastating effect on my self-esteem and the way that I see myself. My confidence is gone, it’s better than the rock-bottom of the worst days, but I still don’t have the ability to make the steps to leave him. I can’t blame all of that on him. I’m genetically prone to depression anyways and I’ve certainly struggled with mental health over the past few years. I have some occasional issues with executive function that also makes this really hard. And my physical health has crumbled over the last year or so, too. (How much that’s to do with the stress of living with an emotionally abusive man, I don’t know.)
Since reading at WeHuntedtheMammoth, I can now see even more how his thinking has been influenced by this stuff for quite a while. And it’s not fun to live with.
@zombifishergirl
Joss Whedon’s response to why he writes strong female characters seems apropo at the moment.
“Because you’re still asking me that question!”
The Knitting Cinephile
I haven’t checked all the comments since this one, but I’ll add this anyway.
South Australia granted women not only the right to vote but the right to stand for parliament in 1894. NZ hadn’t granted that right in their law. But the law was expressed as “all adults” having the right to vote. Which meant that indigenous men and women could vote in both South Australia itself and in what was then the Northern Territory of South Australia. Many indigenous people at the Point MacLeay station in SA did, in fact, vote. Presumably others did as well where the locals didn’t stop them.
When Federation made uniform laws across the country from 1901 onwards, indigenous people in SA/NT lost that right. (They’d already been explicitly barred from voting in Queensland’s and Western Australia’s colonial parliament and local government elections.)
Omg. His antagonist in part 3 was Tina Turner a prominent female. It’s no big deal. Now he has a female friend. It’s a different part of the story. Just go with it.
“He may or may not be telling the truth about his own home life (though I suspect not) but what he’s giving away here is that his view of gender relations is that they are not at all natural but that they only come about by means of repeated and drastic intervention.”
When I read stuff from the manosphere about how women are supposedly naturally submissive, the message I’m actually getting is “men are naturally tyrannical sadists and women are naturally broken down after prolonged abuse”. Cause that’s what it sounds like when you claim all men want slaves with stockholm syndrome to abuse.
As always, they’re the greatest misandrists of all.
If TS77RP1 is telling the truth I hope he gets life in prison and is made to watch “Mulan” on repeat forever. He’d probably have a rage heart attack.
This was horrifying to read. It feels aweful that we live in 2015 and the intellekt of some people are stuck on the dark ages. /// ”Feminazi”-boy
Did anyone screencap TS77’s comments? Maybe he caught wind he was being watched by SJWs. Or he’d been tipped off that we’d tipped him off to the FBI. We do have lurking MRAs here.
Oh and as for strong women characters on film, my favourite is and always will be Princess Nausicaa. SHE IS SO AWESOME.
Slightly off-topic, but re: strong female leads, Anita Sarkeesian posted this comment about her recent video about a positive female character (Jade, from the game Beyond Good & Evil):
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/598301006309425153
@Kootiepatra
http://i.giphy.com/Rae7QTA0dIqaY.gif
@sunnysombrera
Seconding that, Princess Nausicaa is great.
Absolutely seconding that, katz. I just find it hard to believe that someone with such upfront, loudly worn-on-the-sleeve retrograde beliefs would be able to attract and form relationships with intelligent woman. Usually abusers are much more subtle and manipulative about working their way into someone’s life, adopting a charming persona and telling their victim what they want to hear, but this guy just seems so brazenly incompatible with his exes from the get-go. If he’s not making it up, he must have acquired those beliefs during their relationship, or after they broke up.
I wasn’t that interested. Until now. If it enrages the MRA idiots, I’m bound to LOVE it. I personally didn’t care much for the original.
THIS version is right up my alley. After all, my next novel, which is something of a feminist tribute to the Magnificent Seven, is in editing right now.
I’m definitely seeing it when it hits cable. I only go to a couple movies a year and I already used up one of my trips to see Age of Ultron. The other will be with my wife on Christmas, as we don’t celebrate that particular holiday and instead usually go out to see a movie together.
@rugbyogi
The situation sounds very tough. Stay strong. I hope you get the help that you need.
@Gabriel
And here comes the “It’s SATIRE!!! lolololol” brigade, right on cue.
1. It doesn’t matter. Either way, the poster is a POS.
2. Some men actually do treat their daughters and wives this way. No joke.
3. There’s nothing in his post to indicate it’s a Poe. It’s just a variation of the same shit that gets upvoted and agreed with all the time in the manosphere. You have no proof that he’s trolling, only your own gut feeling. That’s not very rational of you.
4. If you find sick, triggering fantasies hilarious, maybe you should question your maturity.
I think it’s hilarious they think “Social Justice Warrior” is some kind of insult. If you’re going to fight for anything, I think social justice is a pretty damn good cause. Then again, I’ve never been a particularly macho male. Sure, I practiced the martial arts, but I think football and car racing are stupid. In fact, a lot of “macho” things are stupid.
I was the guy who hung out with the women most of the time. Why? Because they were usually more interesting than the guys. I’d rather listen to talk about relationships than football. Relationships may cause pain, but they rarely cause brain damage. Can’t say the same about football.
Anyway, apologies for any hurt my previous comment might have caused. I certainly didn’t mean to imply (like our friend Gabriel just did) that smart people never get “taken in”. rubyyogi, I’m pulling hard for you and really hope you can find an escape route soon.
“You to trolled SO hard.” Why is it that these guys seem to never mature beyond the mentality of a 13 year old boy, and not a particularly advanced one? Even their terminology is like reading bad fanfic.
My masculinity isn’t endangered. I will pretty much continue being a male until I’m pushing up daisies. Strong women can’t take that away. My wife didn’t, and couldn’t, and wouldn’t. Why would anything else?
They sound so FEARFUL. If these men are so powerful, why would they fear powerful women? They sound TERRIFIED. It would be amusing if it weren’t so disturbing.
These people have infected gaming, ruined the Hugo Awards, and are generally making a nuisance of themselves to anyone who’ll listen to their drivel. High tech barbarians with delusions of grandeur. That’s all they are. High tech barbarians with the maturity of particularly childish 13 year old boys.
Pathetic.
Ok so these “guys” don’t find bald/short haired women attractive. that’s fine by me.
Personally I think Audrey looks stunning (despite the dubious theme of the film)
https://youtu.be/5IXdEXTeDko
Sinead is exquisite
https://youtu.be/C6MNvjrScyo
Natalie is gorgeous (despite the terrible things V has done to her)
https://youtu.be/GKRxP03-E5Y
And Annie is simply wonderful
https://youtu.be/qeMFqkcPYcg
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I love strong women in fantasy, sci-fi, and horror but, I’ve noticed sexist attitudes even among fans who like these characters too. Male characters can be tough and still make a lot of mistakes and have flaws. Those flaws just make them interesting and three dimensional. But the tough women have to be just about flawless because if they make a big misstep or have less than noble attributes, it will be taken as evidence that they’re awful people.
For example, the two main characters the ASOIAF fan community are hardest on are Daenerys and Catelyn. Both have their ardent supporters, especially Dany, but they get the most vitriol. Male characters who have made mistakes and done ethical things, not so much. It’s not like the flaws of Jaime, Tyrion, and Jon are never discussed. They are. But not quite so intensely.
I’d like to add some more characters into the bad ass women pile now.
Dorothy and Glinda from the book version of Oz.
Bayta and Arcadia from the Foundation series.
Sarah, Beth, and Juno from The Descent.
Nancy from Nightmare on Elm Street.
@ WWTH
Arkady (as I’m sure she’d prefer to be called 🙂 ) is one of my favourite characters in literature.
Mad Max III: Beyond Thunderdome:
“….Tina Turner as Aunty Entity, the ruthless, determined ruler of Bartertown. Entity is a glamorous, Amazon-like figure who recognizes a strength of character in Max, and hopes to exploit him in order to gain sole control of Bartertown from Master. Despite her brutality and Bartertown’s chaos, Entity is an intelligent, cultured woman, who holds a hope of one day rebuilding society to its former glory. In regards of the character, Miller said, “We needed someone whose vitality and intelligence would make her control over Bartertown credible. She had to be a positive character rather than a conventional evil ‘bad guy.’ We had worked on the script with (Turner) in mind. But we had no idea if she’d be interested.” – Wikipedia
Thirty years ago. Just sayin’. 🙂
You to trolled so hard by the commenter espousing ‘total subservience’ from his daughter and talking about belting her. If you believe that (albeit feel written) diatrie maybe you should question your rational capacities.
We were trolled by weeks old comments that creep never anticipated us reading? You’re not very bright are ya? Puddin, your advice on rationality is not needed or appreciated. You’re the chump with his head up his ass.
Men like this do exist. Women and girls are not making this shit up because of a grand conspiracy to offend your delicate sensibilities. Don’t believe me? Sign up at CASA, for foster care or any domestic violence shelter. (You won’t, you lazy, apathetic butt nugget.) Men rape, beat and psychologically torture little girls with alarming regularity. Child abuse is not a joke. A man who spends his time fantasizing about rape, torture and murder of women is not a troll. He’s a goddamned blight on humanity and if you think he’s funny, so are you.
*spits*