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One of these days I’m gonna get organiz-ized, GamerGate edition

Travis Bickle: Not actually a good role model.
Travis Bickle: Not actually a good role model.

So one Reddit GamerGater recently took offense when a commenter in the Kotaku in Action subreddit said something that maybe, possibly, just a teensy bit suggested that Gaters weren’t a fighting force as tightly disciplined as the Marines.

LousyDryad 79 points 4 days ago  We can be organized. Bitch please. A lot of us were raiding in wow 1.13 days, organizing 40 man raids. A lot of us are playing eve online, manipulating markets and fighting wars that costs thousands of dollars. If anything, gamergate showed that gamers can and will organize with ruthless efficiency to pursue their goals. We can be organized? We are one of the best organized movements I ever witnessed. With no rigid structure we're capable of designing worldwide synchronized operations on the fly, as need arises. No one's irreplaceable, no one can be targeted and singled out to bring down the movement. And they said that games don't teach you anything.

Ha!

You want organized? I’ll show you organized. Here is actual video footage of a worldwide conspiracy against humankind. I don’t know how they do it, but I’m telling you, THESE CATS ARE COORDINATING THEIR ATTACKS.

H/T — r/BestOfOutrageCulture and the thoughtful reader who linked me to them

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Nitram
9 years ago

Wars that cost THOUSANDS of dollars!!! Mwahahahaaa!!!

Nitram
9 years ago

The cat is thinking “fuck this cup!”

Bina
9 years ago

40-man “raids” in a game? Oooooooo, I’m sooooooo scaaaaaared. Wake me up when you bozos can get 4 men together in person.

Sissy
Sissy
9 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw:

But, but! If video games prepared me for real life, should I be able to launch hadoukens out of my hands right about now?

I must not be prepared, then. I should polish my fireball throwing skills, yeah.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

All shall love our feline Furrunati overlords and despair.

http://top-manga.t.o.pic.centerblog.net/d796d246.gif

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Gamergate does not do “organization.” They simply have a bunch of people on 4chan willing to follow the instruction of anyone claiming to be part of the movement. They aren’t orchestrating things that require any follow up contact, or searching for actors, or anything more than a couple anonymous posts.

They’re throwing chum into a barrel of ravenous fish and claiming to be great fishermen. The fact that they have enough fervent followers to spam people isn’t a testament to their organizational capabilities.

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

I just destroyed a town to save it’s people, led the survivors through snowy mountain passes, and established a new kick-ass headquarters.

I so phucking alfa. /s

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

I’m also seducing a Grey Warden and a lesion elf at the same time .

So.
Phucking.
Alfa.

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

Its*

Autocorrect is awful.

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago
maleredfem
9 years ago

I clicked on your name because I was unsure if it was trolling and that brought me to a blog post about how feminists are mean to autistic people.

I’ve got a confession to make here: I made an ill-judged comment on a radical feminist artist’s weblog just over a year ago. She didn’t take kindly to the comment, and removed it from the comment thread and made it the subject of an article lambasting me. The blog post to which you’re referring is basically an account I wrote of the confrontation that subsequently occurred between us. In that account, I recalled how I lost my rag and screamed at her about how gendered oppression was not the only form of oppression in the world that mattered and how disabled people suffered from societal disadvantage too. I’d basically been venting my rage at what I perceived, rightly or wrongly, to be a consideration on the part of radical feminists that oppression because of disability was less important than gendered oppression. At no point in that article did I ever mean to indicate that I believed that feminists in general were horrible to autistic people. That is not a view that I’ve ever held. On the contrary, I consider myself to be very much a feminist, an ally of feminism, a supporter of feminism, or whatever formulation you prefer me to use.

Especially since this is a gamergate post and they have a history of co opting ableism in order to try and silence feminists who are talking about autism.

Well, I’m not a gamer, much less a gamergater. I haven’t played video games at all since I was seventeen, as it happens.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

about how gendered oppression was not the only form of oppression in the world that mattered and how disabled people suffered from societal disadvantage too.

We get ableism around here from time to time, but it’s not tolerated.

I’d basically been venting my rage at what I perceived, rightly or wrongly, to be a consideration on the part of radical feminists that oppression because of disability was less important than gendered oppression.

On the other hand, that’s a broad brush you’re using to paint radical feminists. “Radical feminism” is not just one thing. It is all grounded on the same foundation, but different radical feminists can think different things. I’m not going to defend “radical feminists,” because radical feminists are not a single coherent group with a single message. I will say that lumping them all together is not the best of ideas.

There’s also an argument to be made, and I would make it, that some things are just outside the mandate of feminism. I wouldn’t say that disability oppression is less important than gender oppression, but it’s not the responsibility of feminists to take up that fight. Feminism has a long history of being co-opted by other movements that put gender inequality on the back burner, and say we’ll right to that just as soon as X Other Inequality is taken care of first. Somehow the time to take care of gender inequality never seems to come around.

A lot of feminists are not happy about that, and are not going to react kindly to the slightest hint that some other group wants to harness feminists’ energy for something other than gender issues.

Sarah Aigei (@shietka)

@Banana Jackie Cake
That video is *awesome*.

You know, they brag about being well-organized, but then somehow they are _just not able_ to do anything about all those horrible people who harass feminists that are *so* not representative of their movement. Really, you’ve got to stop blaming them /s

Also, Brianna Wu recently tweeted a link to this post analyzing the KotakuInAction reddit. I’m surprised that I’m the first to mention it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/35n7oy/observations_of_data_mined_from_kotakuinaction/

Sarah Aigei (@shietka)

Crap, that’s not the formatting style used in this system, I should’ve guessed. Is it HTML or BBCode?

Robert
Robert
9 years ago

Proxieme – a lesion elf? Does ze need ointment, or perhaps a bandage?

megpie71
9 years ago

Really, organising raids in an MMO may be difficult, and may well involve getting a buncha people together and getting them all lined up and pointed in the same direction, and hoping they’ll all hit the target in the right ways (now, that sounds rather like a certain group’s standard tactics anyway) – but the ability to do it at all, or consistently doesn’t mean you’re doing it either well, or right.

I’ve been on some of those sorts of “raids” as a newbie, and what you wind up with is the dozen or so people who haven’t done this before just following along as fast as they can, and hitting what’s in front of them in the hope they’ll be able to figure out what the fsck is going on at some point. Oh, and praying their ISP doesn’t suddenly decide to route all their packets via a loop out of Melbourne, Brisbane, and Adelaide three times before letting them into the pipe at Sydney and lagging them to hell and back. So they don’t do anything of value, they’re constantly wondering WTF is happening, and all they can do is run along at high speed and hope they don’t run into something that’s going to kill them (which will open them up to the scorn of the regulars). You make a mistake, you get blamed for it.

Whereas I’ve managed to shepherd a group of ten six-year-olds through a visit to the zoo, and got them to see all the animals they wanted to see and didn’t lose any of them. That takes organisational skill!

ryohji
ryohji
9 years ago

Dear GGers, real life is not like a video game. You are not a burly man in a world where everything is black or white. When you are hit by a lorry you cannot quick load your latest saved game.
Stop making us gamers looking like dolts with no idea of what the outside world is.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

I love how they just slip in that clip in the middle of the one cat throwing the other cat’s ass off the ladder. It’s also missing this classic

And, for another entry in the “cats are gonna kill us all in our sleep” file

LordCrowstaff
LordCrowstaff
9 years ago

Actually, when I still played WoW (gotta get back some day) both my raid leader and her right hand were women (gasp). They were excellent leaders as well as generally nice people all around. And if I ever come back, they’d be the reason.

Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

Sarah Aigei (@shietka) | May 11, 2015 at 10:08 pm
Crap, that’s not the formatting style used in this system, I should’ve guessed. Is it HTML or BBCode?

WordPress runs on HTML. :3

@Shadow: I love how in the second clip, the cat stops barking and starts meowing as soon as it realizes its being watched. XD

ryohji | May 11, 2015 at 11:22 pm
Dear GGers, real life is not like a video game. You are not a burly man in a world where everything is black or white. When you are hit by a lorry you cannot quick load your latest saved game.
Stop making us gamers looking like dolts with no idea of what the outside world is.

QFT.

Just because I can make lots of money gambling on the slot machines in Pokemon, it doesn’t mean I can go out and make a mint on real slots.

Just because I understand how Skyrim’s politics work, it doesn’t mean it’s applicable to real-life politics in any part of the world.

Just because I run a gang in Saint’s Row, doesn’t mean I can suddenly start trafficking drugs in real life.

We know how to function in games, and it’s true that people who regularly play games have better hand-eye coordination and can make important decisions quicker and just as accurately as people who do not, it doesn’t mean we can suddenly run the world because we did it in this one game, and it’s totes easy you guis!

There’s a reason test pilots don’t only do simulations.

Kootiepatra
Kootiepatra
9 years ago

Even leaving aside the eye-roll-worthy confusion of video games with real life, what GamerGate does is less like conducting a 40-man raid and more like what happens when drunken dudebros trash their city after their favorite sportsball team wins/loses in a big game.

Seriously, it all amounts to, “Point that way and wreck stuff.”

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

@Robert – A LESBIAN elf.
That’s what I get for posting while brushing my teeth.

And, ha!
I can blame autocorrect on that one, too. Just now my phone tried to correct it to “lesion” and then “lesson”.
It, however, had nothing to say about “alfa” or “phucking”.

My new phone is frustrating.

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

But I guess that it’s cool with my intentional misspellings is something.

sn0rkmaiden
9 years ago

Cool, so all those hours I’ve spent playing Minecraft have totally given me the skills to go set up a farm, construct my own house and go prospecting for iron and diamonds. Surviving the zombie apocalypse will be a piece of cake. Excuse me while I go outside and start punching a tree.