Last month, police say, University of Mary Washington student and feminist/LGBT activist Grace Mann was murdered — bound and asphyxiated by a male housemate and fellow student.
An antifeminist blogger is blaming her death on feminist jokes about misandry.
As Mike Oelke of the Feminism is a Fraud blog sees it, Mann’s death was the inevitable result of the unwillingness of feminists to “learn misandry is not a joke.” In an older post, Oelke had predicted that
one day a feminist wearing an “ironic” KILL ALL MEN t-shirt will walk down the wrong street, enter the wrong room and encounter the wrong man; a man that does not value her as a woman and chooses not to treat her as an equal. The man will not see the t-shirt as ironical humor, but be offended and beat her savagely, laughing as he licks the tears from her crying eyes.
WIth Mann’s death, he says, this “prediction has somewhat been proven true.” And he promises that there will be more violence directed at feminists who
constantly laugh off their misandry as a joke, while treating misogyny like a scourge. Some types of males are going to take that badly with predictable results.
While he says he doesn’t “feel good” about his prediction “somewhat” coming true, he also claims that
this young woman’s death serves a purpose. She “Took one for the team.”
That callous and cruel last line, whatever Oelke meant by it, seems more than a little ironic given the facts of the case.
While we still don’t know the motive of the man who allegedly murdered her, Mann’s death took place on a campus that feminist activists say has become an increasingly hostile environment for them.
The campus group Feminists United — of which Mann was a member — has faced a barrage of harassment and threats online and on campus since last fall when it started to “expose the insidious misogyny and hatred” on campus, as the group’s president Paige McKinsey put it in an op-ed for the school paper in January.
The most egregious example of this “insidious misogyny” was the violent chant — celebrating the rape of dead “whores” — that the school rugby team performed at a party last fall. Surreptitiously recorded by a (male) friend of McKinsey who happened to be at the party, the noxious chant was brought to the administration’s attention by Feminists United last November.
Once the school began disciplinary actions against the team earlier this year, its supporters reacted with outrage — and an even bigger wave of harassment against campus feminists, including hundreds of threatening comments made on the anonymous chat app Yik Yak.
There were rape threats and numerous vicious, sexually explicit personal attacks against McKinsey; Mann was also targeted and threatened with rape. One supporter of the team warned that feminists would “burn” if the team was suspended and that “there will be no survivors.” Another threatened that “Dandy’s about to kill a bitch … or two.” When Feminists United reported these threats to the school administration, they were reportedly told that the school could do little about them.
The rugby team was suspended in March. Mann, a prominent member of the group whose activism led to the team’s suspension, was murdered in April. The suspect, a returning student named Steven Vander Briel, was a former member of the rugby team.
And while there is as yet no clear evidence that there is any connection between the suspension of the team and her murder, it is hard not to wonder if she was killed, not for any ironic jokes about misandry, but for challenging the culture of violent misogyny that seems to infect the Fredericksburg, Virginia, campus.
Mann, who was gay, was not involved with Vander Briel, police say; she was assaulted during what was supposed to be a brief stop at her home after returning from a Day of Silence event to raise awareness about bullying and harassment directed against LGBT folks.
In the wake of Mann’s murder, Feminists United, along with the Feminist Majority Foundation, has filed a Title IX complaint with the Department of Education charging the University of Mary Washington with a “systemic failure to protect” members of the group “from a sexually hostile school environment, from sex-based cyber assaults, and from threats of physical and sexual violence.”
At a media event on campus announcing the complaint last Thursday, Frederickburg.com reports,
Attorney [Debra] Katz said the complaint does not allege that the university caused Mann’s death, but that it “failed to act in the face of vicious abuse and ridicule” Mann suffered.
According to Frederickburg.com, Julia Michels, a University of Mary Washington student and one of the complainants in the Title IX complaint, said at the media event that while
she hopes the threats did not have anything to do with Mann’s death … when she heard the news … her thoughts immediately went to the threats.
“I know she had been mentioned by name on Yik Yak, and I know she was scared, as I am,” Michels said. “I know she was angry, as I am. Most of all, I know she was disappointed in her school for failing to protect her, just as I am disappointed at UMW for failing me.”
We will know in time, one can only presume, what motivated Mann’s murderer. But the damage that can be done by the sort of violent misogyny that she and other members of Feminists United were subjected to on the University of Mary Washington campus — and which her friends still face — is already very clear.
“Misandry” is a joke. Misogyny can kill.
NOTE: This discussion thread is a NO TROLLS, NO MRAs, etc thread. If you’re a troll, an MRA or similar and you comment in this thread you will be banned.
EDIT: I have added a few things to highlight Mann’s LGBT activism.
That is absolutely disgusting. It is seriously like there are no depths these MRA arseholes go. Yeah, a human rights group my arse! My heart goes out to her family. 🙁
Sorry, won’t go.
I. Can’t. Even.
What most people said about most of it.
Also:
The university completely blew off the reports of harrassment and violent threats, even though the women sent them 200 examples (Huff Po)
It’s just struck me that this is the flipside of mansplaining.
“Whatever I say, however ignborant, is worth listening to because I’m male.”
vs
“Whatever you say, no matter how important and no matter how much evidence you’ve got, can’t possible be worth taking seriously because you’re female.”
Which partly explains this weird tendency to treat domestic violence like some other, less serious form of violence. By and large, it’s only women complaining, so the powers that be assume that it can’t be serious.
(Yes, I realise there are male victims, but politicians and the media tend to ignore them.)
@saintluger, I’m assuming that is supposed to be satire? I certainly hope so.
I know this isn’t tagged as being a troll-free thread, but I’m emailing David anyway.
@M.
Good idea, this guy is disturbing.
Do it, M.
saintluger, normally I would argue with your comment but your comment is too disgusting and just too fucking wrong to bother with. You do not deserve a chance to express yourself further, and you can freeze peach all the live long day but views like yours are dangerous and people like you NEED to have no voice.
@M – Thanks! I was about to summon the Dark Lord myself.
Even if saintluger is trying to be sarcastic, it ain’t working.
@Jenny
I have 99% certainty that saintluger wasn’t being satirical. I think he would have done without the “women are children” comment at the end if he was.
My thoughts are with Mann’s family and friends. God, this is depressing and vile.
He necro’d a thread to give the same shitty rant, pretty much. I don’t think it’s satire.
I don’t have time to leave a substantial comment but, whether it’s satire or a troll, I suggest saintlugar’s comment should deleted. Now’s not the time to humor MRA’s moral turpitude and/or deal with their bullshit.
*should be deleted.
Wow, @saintlurger, that comment isn’t disturbing and disgusting at all, she said sarcastically. In all seriousness, not the time or the place for satire if it WAS that, if it wasn’t… well… maybe one day you’ll develop enough empathy to join the human race but I’m not holding out much hope.
I feel safe in saying, after looking at his comment history, that saintluger was not trying to be satirical. (Even if he were that comment would have been wildly inappropriate.) In any case, I’ve deleted that comment and another in a different thread and banned him.)
Also, I’m making this an official troll-free, MRA-free thread. I’ll put a note in the post.)
Thanks to the person who emailed the mods about it!
And if any of you see anything else that’s inappropriate in this thread or elsewhere, please don’t hesitate to email me or the mods; I can’t always promise an immediate response but it’ the quickest and most effective way to get stuff like this taken down. And I’d much rather get duplicate reports of the same terrible comment than no reports!
I apologize for the two close parentheses in my last comment, but if there were any unclosed parentheses lying around the blog I guess they’re fixed?
My god. That poor women. This is such a fucked world with such fucked up people in it. I hope her killer never sees the outside of a prison cell ever again.
But, but, but…death threats shouldn’t be taken seriously. They’re just trolling, right? That’s not terrorism, right? MRAs told me so and they would never lie or minimize abuse. /s
If this university is successfully sued Facebook, Twitter and other colleges will have to do something about the terrorism they are allowing to happen.
The cops need to keep an eye on Mike Oelke instead of terrorizing black communities.
Hey Oelke,
Fuck you scum. You ain’t scary. What you are is motivating. I’m moving to a capitol city as soon as I can sell my house. (Yes, seriously. We’re gonna liquidate and roll out with the whole fam damnly.) When I get there I will be volunteering for every feminist org that will have me. I don’t think I’m the only feminist who read your obvious MRA wank fodder and said, “Enough”. Years ago I stopped being involved in meatspace activism. It’s time I got back to it. Thanks for the push. You have threats and violence. I have a mind and a voice and I’m going to be using them more and more often. You may want to take cover.
Most importantly, it’s been invisible for so long. This item by a reporter talking about how, despite doing the crime and court reporting, IP/ domestic violence was not often reported.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-08/davoren-maintaining-the-veil-of-silence-around-domestic-violence/6455060
Apropos threats and Freeze Peach, there’s a petition in need of signing here:
https://www.change.org/p/facebook-include-threats-of-sexual-violence-and-sexual-harassment-in-reporting-options
And gee, I’m so sorry I missed that idiot troll. /s
@Bina
Petition signed.
PussyPowerTantrum, the Lousy Flouncer ,
Right? Oh no! They are threatening to do to me what I am forced to fear everyday. How ever will I deal with a fear that I have lived with since I was 5.
I have generalized anxiety that can turn into deep depression. I took too much stress for too long and part of me snapped. My body thinks nearly everything is a reason to panic. I’ve been like this for a while. It isn’t that it doesn’t hurt. It really, really fucks with me. It can be paralyzing and humiliating. I hate it. But, I’m used to it. I know I can live with pulse pounding, shaking, sweating fear because some days I feel it just for stepping out my door. It hasn’t killed me yet, but my body isn’t always my friend. I’m far more afraid of myself than I could ever be of anyone else. Nobody can hurt me like I already do and that’s just how I live.
MRA terrorists,
*Bane voice*
You think fear is your ally? You merely adopted terror. I was born in it, molded by it.
@PussyPowerTantrum
Yeah, Oelke’s post and threats are exactly that.
Reblogged this on ok Naija!.
And don’t forget, Samantha, if you do happen to be nice to the wrong guy, and get attacked, well, that’s all on you, too. I can confirm that this is the message guys get throughout our lives–that women who were attacked by men in some way should’ve been responsible for preventing it, and it was okay for us to judge them for failing to do so.
How deep is the message? The first time I was told by a friend (in high school) that she’d been raped, I quietly made special headspace that said she was the exception–not like ‘those other girls’. Second time, in college? Same thing. Third time, also in college? I finally figured out that this was how the script fucking goes, and it wasn’t the victim’s fault, ever. The only good thing about the learning process was that I was just evolved enough to not make any comments about whose fault it was–simply offer support and, when one of them did self-blame, assure them that the weight was on the guy, not her.