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The author of A Voice for Men’s marital rape apologia is a Holocaust denier and Hitler fan. No, really.

Adolph Hitler: Men's Rights Fuhrer
Adolph Hitler: Fuhrer Rights Activist

Amartya Talukdar is a Men’s Rights Activist and self-described “dedicated humanist” who’s written numerous posts for A Voice for Men — most notoriously, the explicit apologia for marital rape that I wrote about earlier this week. In that post, Talukdar declared that “marriage is a licence for sex” and lamented that if marital rape is made illegal in India, men denied sex by their wives might have to resort to masturbation, prostitution, or cheating to find sexual relief.

That’s right; he seems to think that it’s more of a crime for a woman to “force” a man to turn to masturbation than it is for that man to force sex on his unwilling wife.

Well, it turns out that Talukdar has some other, er, interesting beliefs as well. In a series of recent Tweets, he’s revealed himself to be a Holocaust denier and Hitler admirer who believes that Hillary Clinton is a “Jewess.” No, really.

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/594820003049811968

(If this Tweet vanishes, I’ve archived it here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595023179912904704

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595025042162851840

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/592741857479786496

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595025673867034624

(Archived here.)

He also describes Hitler — yes, THAT Hitler — as “the tallest person in history,” and he’s not talking about his physical stature.

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/593836010326216704

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/593830590828322816

(Archived here.)

He has a rather unique theory about Hillary Clinton.

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595024701614792704

(Archived here.)

In this Twitter conversation (archived here), he asks “what is wrong with fasicism [sic]” and credits Hitler with “help[ing] us in freedom movement.”

Oh, he also thinks that “same sex marriage will destroy America,” but I guess that’s not a big shock coming from a Hitler fan.

So how will AVFM respond to the news that one of their contributors is an honest-to-goodness Holocaust denier who goes around defending Hitler on Twitter? Will they denounce his foul views, cut all ties with him, and remove all of his posts from their site, as any reasonable organization would do? Or will they deflect and deny?

Somehow I suspect that it will be the latter.

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M.
M.
5 years ago

At this point, I think there might be more prominent MRAs who are literally Nazis than ones who aren’t.

opium4themasses
5 years ago

M, that’s not fair. I am sure they have a large non-Nazi rac(e real)ist contigent.

Film Runner
5 years ago

Hitler actually has a fair size following in India, who seem to conveniently forget about his whole genocide of non-Aryans thing.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Maybe he meant the other Hitler. You know, the tall one.

davidknewton
davidknewton
5 years ago

You’d think a Nazi would know how to spell “heil”.

sparky
sparky
5 years ago

The only surprising thing about this is how not surprised I am by this.

Pie
Pie
5 years ago

“Hitler actually has a fair size following in India, who seem to conveniently forget about his whole genocide of non-Aryans thing.”

Aryan has a sanskrit root, and was used originally to mean ‘indo-european’, right? Maybe they still think he meant that.

KathleenB
KathleenB
5 years ago

I feel like I shouldn’t be surprised by this kind of bullshit, but I always am.

Troy Brooks
5 years ago

My money is on AVFM claiming his Twitter was hacked

Ellen
5 years ago

Is this person for real? Misogynist, Holocaust denier, homophobe, rape apologist. If he is also a racist, we have the whole package here. Everything he writes is terrible.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Or will they deflect and deny?

Somehow I suspect that it will be the latter.

My money is on them going “It’s satire!”

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

My backup bet is that they will remain completely silent about it.

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

I have to admit I always face palm pretty hard when a POC rides the National Socialism train. That’s some pretty serious cognitive dissonance right there. Not that MRAs don’t possess that in abundance but yeah.

Orion
5 years ago

Ellen,

I’m guessing that most Hitler fans are racist. The world’s a weird place so I’m sure you could find one who isn’t but… not this guy.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

“Aryan” means Indo-Persian. More specifically, Iranian (and some Pakistanis and Afghans, as well). Maybe that’s why some Indians have a Hitler fetish? Or maybe because he stole their sauvastika (which has been a common good luck symbol throughout Asia for much longer than it’s been associated with fascism) and turned it into a Nazi symbol? Or maybe because his weird, outdated notions of race and caste jibe well with their weird, outdated notions of race and caste? Whatever. Since the Holocaust didn’t affect them in any way, it’s not hard to see why some would deny it. (Not that THAT excuses anything. If he’s on the internet, he can damn well look up Nizkor and see his denials debunked, exhaustively.)

As for “tallest”, I think he means “greatest”. Either way, it’s rank bullshit.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

I expect AVFM will insist he’s just being quoted out of context.

Return of Kings may see this and offer him a regular column, given the direction they’ve been headed in of late.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
5 years ago

I’m with sunnysombrera — it’s a satire and the feminazis (!) don’t get it because they famously lack sense of humor. (You know, they also don’t think rape is funny, so what do you expect?)

This fella is not the only Hitler admirer in the sphere. I recall reading others praising him for his alphaness and ‘getting stuff done’ on assorted redpillian sites, most notably on The (ir)Rational Male. It fits with who they are, so I can’t say I’m surprised.

Tabby Lavalamp
5 years ago

His Twitter description has him as a “humanist”. Words don’t have meaning anymore.

canuck_with_pluck
canuck_with_pluck
5 years ago

These guys certainly have a a very…narrow lens, when it comes to Hitler. Half of them would have been arrested, given how out spoken they are against the state.

autosoma
5 years ago

I dunno what to say about this, from a historic perspective pre-ww2 a number of Indian nationalist joined the SS, yet Hitler modeled his occupation of USSR, in particular the Ukraine on British Military Occupation of Northern India. Hitler also had plans for the occupation of India and preform similar acts of genocide that he perpetrated in the USSR.

I do find these mens interpretation of the historic record to be very odd, unless that is they cannot research and read beyond their own shallow site.

I know they would argue that I’m incorrect and that is their right to do so, yet this level of nastiness is beyond me, that they fall into a pit of their own stupidity.

How does this man think he fits into Elams cronyist worldview, I’m shocked at their naivety, pandering to a narcissist doesn’t save you.

cheerioincident
5 years ago

“where are the gas chambers”

You can literally go visit them. Of all the utterly absurd concocted “mysteries” of the holocaust, this one is…not even one, because the gas chambers still exist and can be observed first hand.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

So… about Hitler and India. It’s almost understandable when you find out that Churchill starved 3 million Bangladeshi people(which was part of India at the time) in order to make it a less strategically valuable place to conquer.

When it comes to genocide in WWII, Churchill was a lot more noticeable to local politics. None of that excuses being a Nazi, but any means, but it helps shape how people of the region viewed things.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

@cheerioincident

The thing about holocaust deniers is that they aren’t actually interested in answering the questions they ask. The triviality of visiting the holocaust museum, and seeing a ton of primary evidence, or reviewing the Nuremburg trials and boning up on the absolute tons of secondary evidence the allies brought with charges doesn’t interest them.

JAQing off is easy. Changing your worldview is hard.

Professor fate
Professor fate
5 years ago

my guess is they will sort of handwave until someone a bit less toxic shows up and then quietly usher him out of the light. It’s not that they don’t agree with what a lot of he says it’s just you can’t say “Hitler” when you are talking about them. It’s like a meeting of a right wing think tank that is to discuss the persistence of poverty in African American communities and one guy shows up in Klu Klux Klan robes. It isn’t they all aren’t on board it’s just it gives the game away.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Nazis live in a bizarre world of cognitive dissonance; both denying and celebrating the Holocaust.

According to them it didn’t happen but it was also Hitler’s finest achievment. There were no gas chambers but they’ll buy Zyklon B canisters off the internet.

ryohji
ryohji
5 years ago

Amartya talukdar meet my middle finger. My middle finger, this is Amartya talukdar.

flagalicious
flagalicious
5 years ago

@Professor fate, you have given the game away! Still, I’m trying hard not to allow cynicism to overwhelm my indignation. AVFM is a site that publishes rape apologists, Holocaust deniers, and anti-Semites (in this case all wrapped up in one fool). The public needs to have this information when it encounters one of their fluff articles about fathers having to pay child support.

dhag85
5 years ago

“SATIRE”

Ox-ee-mor-on (@JoeKlemmer)

I was born, and grew up, in Germany in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. There’s a town just outside of Munich called Passau. The Nazi’s had one of their concentration camps there. I’ve seen the ovens, barracks and such. The Holocaust was real.

Tanya
5 years ago

“deflect and deny” or, you know, embrace. It is, after all, AVFM.

shsjohnv
5 years ago

So, a member of a movement known for being able to hold mutually exclusive positions depending on gender is also known for being a member of a movement dedicated to celebrating an action they say never happened depending on politics of the crowd.

Nitwits are a predictable bunch. It also explains why they think being, say, a social progressive also means you are a Nazi, a homosexual, and a communist. Ascribing to one arch-conservative belief usually means you’re part of other movements on the arch-conservative spectrum.

T.Coolguy
T.Coolguy
5 years ago

I don’t agree with any of Tadulkar’s beliefs, but I do find it somewhat odd so many people here find it difficult to appreciate why Hitler might be popular in India when he is known for fighting a war against the power that occupied them.

It’s the same kind of enemy of my enemy logic that had people in the US praising the Muhajedeen in the 80s before they hated them in 2001.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

I don’t understand the psychology behind Holocaust denial. Obviously there’s some tiny shred of social awareness that whispers to them “don’t cop to genocide in public”, but it seems like they do this mostly to stay on the good side of public opinion, not because there’s any awareness that genocide is wrong. If they did have a moral compass, they wouldn’t be unconditionally worshipping Hitler. Or possibly they’re trying to gaslight all the families of Holocaust victims and survivors, because they’re hateful shitbags who can’t resist piling on, and participating vicariously in the erasure of victims is the next best thing to having been an SS guard.

Either way, this guy’s a delusional idiot if he thinks the Nazis wouldn’t have bundled him off to the concentration camps along with everybody else. Even though Hitler was influenced by Indian philosophy and religious texts (which describe a hierarchy of races in the world, with white Aryans at the top), he still viewed non-Aryan races as inferior and barbaric.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I don’t understand holocaust deniers. There are pictures and videos. Witnesses. Surviving victims. There was a major trial. A conspiracy of that magnitude would be impossible to pull off. You have to be so, so stupid to be a holocaust denier.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

This is possibly the best rebuttal for any lurking deniers out there. Also has the distinction of being the only Law Report ever published in book form:

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2000/115.html

ethfiel
5 years ago

aryan meant something like ´hospitable`. Bitter irony how Hitler used it. Though what we know about those Indo-Iranian tribes that migrated to the punjab in the 2nd millenium B.C is that they despised all and everyone outside their culture. But every tribe adopting to their culture started to call themselves aryan. It was not connected to “race”. So another missinterpretation on H`s side.

AbsintheDexterous
AbsintheDexterous
5 years ago

I, too, cannot understand Holocaust deniers. Here is a map with all of the known locations of camps because fascists are good at record keeping. Also, even without books and transcripts and people’s memories, some of these camps have been preserved. Sachsenhausen, for instance – and one that I visited.

The level of pretzel logic that they use to deny these things would be hilarious, if it weren’t sad and really scary. It’s akin to the “we didn’t land on the moon” conspiracy theories except way worse – it would be the level of “we didn’t land on the moon because there is no moon” level of logic.

The Knitting Cinephile
The Knitting Cinephile
5 years ago

People like this guy keep using the word “satire”. I do not think that word means what he thinks it means.

Ellen
5 years ago

@ Orion

yeah, that’s the only logical thing to conclude… I’m just a bit slow today.

But is it really surprising that a Holocaust denier is an MRA? I mean, it is typical for them to deny facts. Just another “new low” for their “movement”.

Moggie
Moggie
5 years ago

Someone should ask Amartya Talukdar whether the moon landings were real, what happened at Roswell, and who was behind 9/11. I’ll hazard a guess that he has many interesting theories about world events, and wouldn’t be shy about sharing them.

AJ Milne
AJ Milne
5 years ago

‘Is this person for real? Misogynist, Holocaust denier, homophobe, rape apologist…’

Seems to me like some parallel phenomenon to crank magnetism.

Mebbe more a gravitational metaphor for this one? Past a certain Chandrasekhar limit of awful, there is no escape for infalling appalling, and thus it accumulates.

freemage
5 years ago

Ugh. Just ugh. I can’t find anything witty to say about someone this pathetic and vile.

syncopic rienzi
syncopic rienzi
5 years ago

Good rule of thumb is that anyone insisting they aren’t a feminist, but a ~*humanist*~ is in reality anything but.

proxieme
proxieme
5 years ago

Aryan has a sanskrit root, and was used originally to mean ‘indo-european’, right? Maybe they still think he meant that.

I’ve actually seen / heard several Indians (from/in India, not in the West) saying exactly that. One guy was even trying to assert that Hitler meant the “original Aryans” from India, no one else.

Nope!

I would’ve felt sorry for the guys saying it except that they all seemed to be racist douchebags.

proxieme
proxieme
5 years ago

re: Holocaust deniers: The Nazis were exceptional record keepers.
Even putting all of the physical evidence (and survivors) aside, there are reams of records.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

Good rule of thumb is that anyone insisting they aren’t a feminist, but a ~*humanist*~ is in reality anything but.

There’s also good chances they didn’t look either word up before making that choice.

They’re working hard on ruining the meaning of that word the same way climate change deniers are ruing “skeptic” for us actual skeptics.

Chelsea
Chelsea
5 years ago

Just watch. Somehow they’ll find a tenuous way to blame all of this on Anita Sarkeesian.

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

My own suspicion about Holocaust denialism is this: after WWII, anti-Semitism could no longer be respectable (in the West, at least). It still existed, of course. But the sorts of things that had been openly said and written beforehand – look at some of what G.K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc wrote – were no longer accepted in polite company. The denialists pine for the days of genteel Judenhass, and hope to bring them back.

Have you ever read anything by a denialist? As they insist that it didn’t happen, they can’t resist adding that – IF IT HAD – the Germans would have been completely justified.

WickedWitchOfWhatever
WickedWitchOfWhatever
5 years ago

According to them it didn’t happen but it was also Hitler’s finest achievment. There were no gas chambers but they’ll buy Zyklon B canisters.
Well its not that far from believing that all rape claims are false, but men need to be allowed to rape or they’ll be driven to the horrors of masturbation.

dhag85
5 years ago

@Robert

Haha, spot on. But isn’t that sort of the way with many shades of bigots though? Like how the MRAs can’t decide if they don’t hate women, or if they do hate women but are justified in hating them. And racists are totally not racist, but if black people would just behave better they wouldn’t have to be racist at all – not that they are! And the homophobes have nothing against gays, in fact they have many gay friends, but on the other hand gays are of the devil and they’re destroying America and Marriage with their homesexual agenda.