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The author of A Voice for Men’s marital rape apologia is a Holocaust denier and Hitler fan. No, really.

Adolph Hitler: Men's Rights Fuhrer
Adolph Hitler: Fuhrer Rights Activist

Amartya Talukdar is a Men’s Rights Activist and self-described “dedicated humanist” who’s written numerous posts for A Voice for Men — most notoriously, the explicit apologia for marital rape that I wrote about earlier this week. In that post, Talukdar declared that “marriage is a licence for sex” and lamented that if marital rape is made illegal in India, men denied sex by their wives might have to resort to masturbation, prostitution, or cheating to find sexual relief.

That’s right; he seems to think that it’s more of a crime for a woman to “force” a man to turn to masturbation than it is for that man to force sex on his unwilling wife.

Well, it turns out that Talukdar has some other, er, interesting beliefs as well. In a series of recent Tweets, he’s revealed himself to be a Holocaust denier and Hitler admirer who believes that Hillary Clinton is a “Jewess.” No, really.

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/594820003049811968

(If this Tweet vanishes, I’ve archived it here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595023179912904704

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595025042162851840

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/592741857479786496

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595025673867034624

(Archived here.)

He also describes Hitler — yes, THAT Hitler — as “the tallest person in history,” and he’s not talking about his physical stature.

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/593836010326216704

(Archived here.)

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/593830590828322816

(Archived here.)

He has a rather unique theory about Hillary Clinton.

https://twitter.com/a_talukdar/status/595024701614792704

(Archived here.)

In this Twitter conversation (archived here), he asks “what is wrong with fasicism [sic]” and credits Hitler with “help[ing] us in freedom movement.”

Oh, he also thinks that “same sex marriage will destroy America,” but I guess that’s not a big shock coming from a Hitler fan.

So how will AVFM respond to the news that one of their contributors is an honest-to-goodness Holocaust denier who goes around defending Hitler on Twitter? Will they denounce his foul views, cut all ties with him, and remove all of his posts from their site, as any reasonable organization would do? Or will they deflect and deny?

Somehow I suspect that it will be the latter.

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RoscoeTCat
RoscoeTCat
5 years ago

Concerning Holocaust denial, what about all the films, some taken by the Nazis themselves? Bulldozing literal mountains of human corpses…I shudder. My high school showed the students a documentary containing a good deal of footage like this.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

The original humanist movement is a branch of atheism, so even though I don’t like some parts of it (there’s a little too much “religious people are stupid” rhetoric among said parts) I feel sorry for them that their name has been sullied by racists and misogynists.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

That was aimed at syncopic, sorry.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
5 years ago

Robert:

My own suspicion about Holocaust denialism is this: after WWII, anti-Semitism could no longer be respectable (in the West, at least). It still existed, of course. But the sorts of things that had been openly said and written beforehand – look at some of what G.K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc wrote – were no longer accepted in polite company. The denialists pine for the days of genteel Judenhass, and hope to bring them back.

I have this perception that, even in the “old days”, most Western Christians didn’t really condone the idea of murdering all Jews. However, since open antisemitism was standard, some people would’ve been easily able to develop a real obsession of hating the Jews.

What I don’t understand is, where do these people come nowadays, in Western society where the mainstream doesn’t seem to much perpetuate antisemitism and where there aren’t any social problems commonly associated with Jews (speaking from a Finnish non-Jewish person’s perspective).

Jo
Jo
5 years ago

There’s also his weird idea that Russia has finally recognised that the holocaust was a ‘Stalinist hoax’. Strange time for it with Stalin’s popularity at a 50 year high and Putin (ironically) pushing the anti-fascist line as hard as he can.

Not that holocaust deniers make sense on other levels, but that bit of illogicality caught my eye.

ghostornamental
ghostornamental
5 years ago

@AbsintheDexterous

“it would be the level of ‘we didn’t land on the moon because there is no moon’ level of logic.”

that’s a thing

Leum
Leum
5 years ago

The psychology of the Holocaust is perversely fascinating. As noted above, the Nazis kept meticulous records of their crimes. But, at the same time they saw themselves as committing a necessary atrocity that must be kept secret from all the rest of Germany in perpetuity. It also turns out to be really hard to personally commit genocide. When the Holocaust started, they just had the army shoot row upon row of Jewish people and other undesirables into graves, but they had to stop doing that because it was bad for troop morale. A lot of the machinery of the concentration and death camps was designed to ensure that as few Germans as possible had to actually see what was going on.

I think some of that same perversity is what feeds into the desire among denialists to say simultaneously that the Holocaust never happened and that it totally should’ve. It’s a necessary bit of cognitive dissonance/paradox.

/Leum wanders off muttering about macabre things they learned in their Holocaust theology class…

portlantonio
5 years ago

I truly despise these people. Not just because they’re hateful, but because they literally just make up things about history.
Holicaust was like wmds in Iraq? Really? So the holocaust was made up by the infant American intelligence community to wage a way for several different altier motives than those stated?
That’s funny, and here I thought hitler declared war on the United States to back up Japan and that most people didn’t give two shits about the Jews until the war was nearly over and reports and photos from liberated concentration camps started coming out.

Wetherby
Wetherby
5 years ago

The David Irving libel trial is in the process of becoming a film – which is excellent news, as it’s yet more publicity for one of the greatest and most satisfying own goals in British legal history.

(Irving’s supporters would prefer to think that he was the defendant, but he was actually the plaintiff.)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Wetherby

That’ll be interesting. I actually saw a bit of the trial (sometimes popped in when I was in the RCJ). Was quite dramatic even in real life (which trials usually very much *aren’t*)

And just to be nerdy, we don’t have plaintiffs here any more; he was “the Claimant”.

A Wolverine
A Wolverine
5 years ago

I’ve read that some of the denial is an extremely tortured way to discredit FDR by Koch brother cronies (something something FDR got us involved in a war for no reason also all that government intervention during the depression was bad)

This obviously ignores the EVERYTHING ELSE HORRIBLE that the nazis did.
(I’ve never seen a denialist even know what Action T4 was)

scalyllama
5 years ago

Alan Robertshaw on May 7, 2015 at 8:26 am

Maybe he meant the other Hitler. You know, the tall one.

Bahahahah!!! Love it Alan ????

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

While pre-war anti-Semites did not advocate genocide, there was a definite cultural fixation on Jews as the Other. Chesterton denied that there could even *be* “English Jews”; their group status was an immutable characteristic. There could be Jews *living in* England, but they would always be outsiders in a land not their own. And Chesterton was not a raving bigot, by the standards of his time, and condemned the earliest reports of Nazi persecutions. That kind of thought is now restricted to a limited group of people, who dearly wish for it to be mainstream again. There are entire political parties in Europe that are dedicated to doing just that.

PussyPowerTantrum, the Lousy Flouncer
PussyPowerTantrum, the Lousy Flouncer
5 years ago

What is it with all the neo-Nazis and Nazi apologists? I debated two of them on YouTube recently (I know, I know, YouTube) and I can’t wrap my head around any modern person saying the things they do, with all we know about history. Maybe they really are the new incarnation of the Know-Nothings.

Is no one commenting on the good news for Clinton? It looks like she’s got the Jewish (or is that “Jewess”) vote sewn up!

Catalpa
Catalpa
5 years ago

One of my ‘favourite’ things about these guys is that they claim that the holocaust, which has reams and reams of evidence, never happened, but the prehistoric time of cavemen hunting down mammoths all on their own while women stayed back eating bonbons and occasionally needing to be raped in order to create more human beings, THAT definitely happened exactly as the shitgolem envisioned.

I suppose one could argue that it’s internally consistent; these fuckheads’ outlook is ‘history played out exactly how I feel it should have, and I am deeply, deeply discriminated against because the present isn’t playing out exactly the way I feel it should, with me being able to rape indiscriminately and having total power over women and all other lesser ‘people’.’

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
5 years ago

Lipstadt’s “History on Trial” is also very good, especially taken together with “Lying About Hitler.” Both are well worth the read.

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
5 years ago

Now, now. It’s not satire. You see, David just invoked Hitler, which means he just Godwined the MRM, which means everything he’s ever said is wrong forever.

katz
katz
5 years ago

You know, the funny thing about revisionist history is that it’s so damn easy to get people to believe it. You don’t really need facts or arguments or any kind of defense at all; just affirmatively state the thing and, if it’s something people want to believe anyway, they’ll take it as a given.

For instance, tons of Americans will tell you that America has never lost a war, when it’s happened within the living memory of some of them.

bvh
bvh
5 years ago

Re: Holocaust Denial

Others have made good and accurate points. Post WWII it’s a cynical ploy of the fringe right to rally their base. It might even be a way to drive away anyone they don’t want. I’ve had the dubious fortune of a political con artist try to soft sell me Holocaust Denial. This was years ago when I was unfamiliar with the details of the phenomena and was actually curious what “evidence” the deniers thought they had. This person didn’t try to sell it directly, just tried to manipulate me by supporting my questions about the subject. Unfortunately for them the exchange inspired me to find and purchase Deborah Lipstadt’s book “Denying the Holocaust”, where she expertly debunks all the major denier points. This was the book that triggered David Irving’s libel suit.

Final fun fact: years after I disassociated with the con artist above, the group they were involved with hosted David Irving as a speaker. >:(

People who fall for Holocaust Denial can be racists, but they also can be uneducated with bad critical thinking skills. People pushing Holocaust Denial–knowing it’s a fraud– are predatory manipulators. I am completely unsurprised they’ve made alliances with other predatory manipulators.

Winter Maiden
Winter Maiden
5 years ago

Even worse than being a Holocaust denier and a rape apologist, he is a Tweet spammer.

Zach
Zach
5 years ago

Anyone with access to the internet has zero excuse for being a Holocaust Denier. It is one of the single most documented events in modern history. Ironically, the actual Nazis like Himmler, Heydrich, Eichmann, etc. would probably loathe the deniers. They were proud of it and Himmler triumphantly announced it.

Also, the whole ‘invented by the Russian’ thing is total bullshit. What, did the Russians get Eisenhower in on it?

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

Oh the irony – AVFM trot out a supporter who isn’t white and he is a raving anti Semite and pro Nazi! So they can’t exactly say ‘see, we are not racist’!

maistrechat
5 years ago

Yesterday I was “privileged” to hear an explanation of why Hillary Clinton is a secret Muslim.

Glad that she’s okay with maintaining so many religious beliefs at once.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

She’s probably a witch too! And an atheist.

Side note, I do actually suspect that Obama might be a secret atheist or agnostic. It doesn’t really matter or anything, it’s just a hunch.

bvh
bvh
5 years ago

“Oh the irony – AVFM trot out a supporter who isn’t white and he is a raving anti Semite and pro Nazi! So they can’t exactly say ‘see, we are not racist’!”

A fringe tactic so common it’s like clockwork. Same with photo ops. If an entire group is 97% pale faces, a “group” photo will have the handful of POC/women in the front. “See! We’re diverse!”.

On the subject of POC or even Jews pushing racist, anti-semite ideology, these are people with an amoral political agenda, whether they really believe what their pushing or not. David Cole is an excellent example. Simply a conartist who used his Jewish background to buy cred in sleazy political quarters.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/03/david-stein-cole-holocaust-revisionist

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Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

Ah, seems he has deleted many of his tweets on this page, except for the one saying the Holocaust was a Russian invention. I wonder why? Hmmm?

@WWTH

It wouldn’t be surprising if he was. Isn’t there a poll or study out there that the American public would rather have someone who’s religious, regardless of religion, be in office rather than an atheist? Until atheism gets more mainstream and less demonized–hopefully with less (or, ideally, no) douchey, MRA, evo-psych types–it’s prudent for atheists who want to run for president to pretend they’re Christian. Hopefully by the time we get an atheist president, we’ll at least get a couple non-Christian one.

GrumpyOldSocialJusticeMangina

“What, did the Russians get Eisenhower in on it?”

Well, some of us are old enough to remember that Robert Welch, the founder of the John Birch Society, called Eisenhower a “card-carrying member of the Communist conspiracy.” If you’re susceptible to conspiracy theories, anything is possible.

dadisrao
5 years ago

Indian men right wants all the laws should be gender equail. In fact marriage india is unsafe for men 65k married men r committing suecide every year. ware 32k married women. not only that Indian laws r highly biased & spcial lawlaws r criminalised men with false cases, crime against laws r aways good but they should not be biased. way femenist r affried of gender equail.if women dont do a crime she will not be accused. we men right organisations conducted various pres meets and told laws should be gender equail.

Those who r defaming or missleading men rights in Indian. They r liable for leagal consequences.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Indian men right wants all the laws should be gender equail. In fact marriage india is unsafe for men 65k married men r committing suecide every year. ware 32k married women. not only that Indian laws r highly biased & spcial lawlaws r criminalised men with false cases, crime against laws r aways good but they should not be biased. way femenist r affried of gender equail.if women dont do a crime she will not be accused. we men right organisations conducted various pres meets and told laws should be gender equail.

Those who r defaming or missleading men rights in Indian. They r liable for leagal consequences.

Uh-huh. And how many men are being burned to death by wives and mothers-in-law for dowries? How many men get sexually harassed by women just for walking down a street? How many men are being raped to death on city buses by women gangs armed with iron bars? And how is married men’s suicide rate tied to so-called misandry? Because correlation ≠ causation, you know.

I’d take your comment a lot more seriously if it weren’t in fact WOMEN being oppressed for reasons of gender, in India and just about everywhere.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Aren’t a lot of those suicides farm workers who have been economically devastated by the changes the country is going as it becomes more industrialized and capitalist and less agrarian? How is feminism responsible for this?