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Red Pill philosopher: A relationship with a loving woman is a lot like taking a crap

Shall I compare thee to a morning poop?
Shall I compare thee to a morning poop?

So over on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit, one fellow had an unusual question: what to do about a girlfriend who is “TOO GOOD. TOO PERFECT” for him.

It’s starting to get to a point where i’m disgusted with how much she loves me, and how dedicated she is to me. She’s no longer a challange, and i’ve been considering leaving her.

One Red Piller with something of a philosophical bent offered him a rather unique perspective on his dilemma:

throwwhatthere 3 points 11 months ago  I'm not going to claim to know you too well, but I do still believe that once you deemphasize the role of women in your life even more you'll be less disgusted by your LTR's astounding commitment and love for you.  Or put another way: Taking a shit is a disgusting act, but I don't really give it much thought because it's not the focus of my life, and heck, it's kinda necessary to live a happy life. A loving woman could be seen similarly - something that it's great to have and contributes to your life, but not something you particularly invest much emotional energy in.  In fact, I would argue that this approach is NOT only what works best for men, but for women too, and is really just a restatement of most RP precepts.  Unless you think you'd be more satisfied with a girl who wasn't as good to you, I'd strongly suggest staying put.  If you really want, you could start trying to piss your woman off just to increase the challenge factor - though I wouldn't recommend it. I stand by my original advice: do your best to find something else to interest you.  Good hunting friend.

Well, that’s one way of looking at it, I guess.

H/T — r/TheBluePill

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Paradoxical Intention
9 years ago

“WHAT DO I DO MY GIRLFRIEND ACTUALLY LOVES ME I DON’T KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION IN A RELATIONSHIP WHERE SOMEONE PUTS UP WITH MY RANK ASS BULLSHIT”

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

I hope he leaves.

She doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship with such an asswipe.

sparky
sparky
9 years ago

She’s no longer a challange, and i’ve been considering leaving her.

This guy doesn’t want a relationship. This guy wants chess club. Yes, he should leave her – she’ll be so much better off without a redpill asshole – and join a chess club. Or a scrabble-playing club. Or a fantasy football league. Any kind of game-playing club [real games, not “game ™”], where he an find all the “challenge” he wants.

freemage
9 years ago

I don’t… how… why would you… Gfrlgbpzt.

odaran
odaran
9 years ago

Whatever women do, however they act….is not good.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

Just remember, folks (coz redpillians want you to): men love idealistically and women opportunistically.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
9 years ago

@Aunt Edna
This just fits in perfectly with the last thread, where we were discussing their frothing screeching reaction to being told that marriage is about love.

Truly, they don’t understand it in any way.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

@sunnysombrera:

Yep.

anon
anon
9 years ago

I’d normally post something like, “The red piller made this up because noone could possibly love them.”

But then I remembered that women were in love with Manson and other serial killers.

That womans friends should pay for her therapy.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Why do red pillers even think a loving relationship entails having no other interests besides the relationship anyway? Having a hobby and a relationship are not mutually exclusive.

Robert
Robert
9 years ago

These people put the func in dysfunctional. The truly distressing part is that a real live person is going to get hurt because she thought he was a decent human being (or close enough). When the Redpillians trot out the old wheeze about women going after ‘bad boys’, well, they don’t get much worse than this.

bekabot
bekabot
9 years ago

What are these two guys admitting? (Though they are not PC.) They’re admitting that the Perfect Woman of the Fantasies bores silly them once they’ve got her for real. Well, truer words than that were never spoken (or written) so I have to give them points for veracity on that score. Of course it’s all phrased so as to be as unflattering as possible to the woman who’s being discussed, who is (of course) not part of the conversation.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

I encourage you to read all the responses to this bored young man on that tread.

As Robert said, that’s the func in dysfunctional.

But hey, redpillians love idealistically! lol

Quantuminc
Quantuminc
9 years ago

To be fair, it is commonly acknowledged that neediness is a turn off and can ironically damage the relationship that they’re so desperate for.

However with the “she’s not a challenge” line I suspect he is one of many men who date not because they want human connection, or even “a girl to call my own”, but just the patriarchal validation of “getting laid”. It seems that many redpillers and almost all PUAs don’t really want women, but instead a little ticket that reads “Proof of Masculinity” that apparently resides between women’s legs.

Andrew McCormick
9 years ago

My discomfort with being loved came from a lifetime of self-loathing and regarding myself as unworthy. I would not be at all surprised to find those traits endemic in MRAs, and will doom any pursuit of happiness to failure. (There is no happiness to find — it is within)

sn0rkmaiden
9 years ago

My first thought upon reading that was that the guy must really hate himself if he despises another person for loving him.

That girl, whoever she is, deserves better.

zillah
zillah
9 years ago

I have to admit my first thought was “does this guy hate himself or what?”. But I feel a lot sorrier for his poor girlfriend than I do him.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
9 years ago

Snork et al, read his entire comment. It’s more sinister than I expected; but the girl deserves better indeed. One hopes that she’s found that thread somehow (it is old) and saw her BF in it — or otherwise realized her predicament and left already.

tinyorc
9 years ago

YES BRO YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY DUMP HER THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY ALPHA OF YOU PLEASE FREE HER I MEAN DUMP HER

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

I clicked through and read the thread.

About 1/3 of these guys might be otherwise decent people who got their hearts broken but rather than going through the pretty normal few months-year of bitterness followed by pulling their heads out of their asses have fallen into this echo-y morass of self pity and outward-directed scorn.

I hope this isn’t the “new normal” in internet-enabled society.
Why move onwards and upwards when you can live your life filled with blame and mistrust?
The latter lets you be RIGHT, dammit – if not in your past actions, then by simple virtue of being part of a class of people born to it, especially when you have such easy access to a peer group telling you that it must be so – and is so much more comfortable than painful growth.

proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

Andrew – I’m glad that you seem to have found your center and some peace.

dhag85
dhag85
9 years ago

Confirms what I think we’ve already concluded: these guys aren’t actually interested in having any form of friendly coexistence with women. They just want to hate.

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9 years ago
Andrew Johnston
9 years ago

Read the whole comment and I’ll tell you…If this guy wasn’t so amazingly self-centered, I’d actually feel sorry for him. He’s met someone who makes him genuinely happy, and he’s about to dump her because the Red Pill forum told him to. That’s really awful. But then again, his only concern is how this affects him – he has no concern for a woman who has shown a willingness to sacrifice for him, he’s only concerned that he won’t find anyone as good. I got news for him – you’re not going to find anyone else, because you’re an asshole who lucked out and now you’re letting the He-Man Women Hater’s Club dictate your happiness.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

I think I dated that guy.

He’s right. I AM better without him!

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