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Roosh V: seduced and abandoned by The Dr. Oz Show

Roosh faces off against Dr. Oz and his tan
Roosh faces off against Dr. Oz and his tan

So our old dear friend Roosh Valizadeh — the not-quite-Nazi pickup artist and rape legalization advocate — appeared on The Dr. Oz Show today. No, really.

Dr. Oz brought him on to elucidate the “fat shaming”campaign that he launched a couple of years ago to fight back against the women who torment him daily by being too big to please his boner. Apparently, at least in the eyes of Dr. Oz and his producers, Roosh is the “leader of the international fat shaming movement.”

Shockingly. neither Dr. Oz nor his mostly female studio audience were grateful for Roosh’s work on this front. Oz pointed out that fat shaming doesn’t work — all it really accomplishes is to make people feel shitty about themselves — and brought out a number of unapologetically fat women to confront him. Roosh responded by robotically repeating his talking points. (If you missed the show, you can watch a snippet of it here or read a recap here.)

In many ways more interesting than the show itself is Roosh’s reaction to it. In a blog post today, Roosh complains that he “was backstabbed by Dr. Oz and his female producers.”

As he tells it, these devious females sweet talked him to get him on the show, telling him what he wanted to hear and treating him “courteous[ly] and professional[ly].” On the day of the show, as they prepped him for his appearance, staffers

smiled at me and seemed genuinely interested in what I had to say about fat shaming, and one even went so far as to offer aid in obtaining the loose leaf green tea that I desired (I avoid bagged teas whenever possible). From the behavior they showed me, it was safe to assume that I was about to have an honest conversation about the obesity issue on mainstream American television.

And then Dr. Oz called him a “monster” on national TV, and made him talk to some fat women who didn’t much appreciate his “help.”

After his segment, Roosh reports, “[t]he backstage hands didn’t even look at me.”

Yep, that’s right. The proudly amoral “pickup artist” is complaining that he was seduced, used, and abandoned.

So what exactly did the mean Dr. Oz do to poor Mr. Valizadeh?

Here’s Roosh’s version of events:

I was ushered backstage and did a microphone test for the sound engineer. There were several monitors above where I could see the studio set. I looked up at one and saw Dr. Oz introducing me. I was preparing to go on the stage with a slight smile, but that notion quickly evaporated when I heard the word “monster” and “bringing him out from the shadows.” Instantly, I knew I was walking into a trap. I looked around, half hoping for a hug or some assurance that everything was going to be okay, but realized that the staff who were so cheery earlier knew all along that they were ushering me to a public execution. They sedated me with niceities so I would not be mentally prepared for what was about to happen.

I’m sorry, but my irony meter just burst into flames.

I shook Dr. Oz’s hand, the man who just called me a monster, out of instinct. The lights were bright but not in my face, making it hard to see the 200 people in the audience. I counted three cameras with teleprompters attached and didn’t know if I should look at them or not. My mouth suddenly felt dry.

Dr. Oz’s attack began by cherry picking the meanest quotes I’ve ever written and asking me to justify them. I got out my shovel, ready to work, but every time I climbed up the edge, Dr. Oz would push me back in by saying I was “screwed up” or offer some type of emotional outburst before wild applause by the audience. I have been to European soccer games with less emotion.

Having read a great deal of Mr. V’s writings over the past several years, I feel safe in saying that the quotes Dr. Oz read back to Roosh — that men would “rather die than have sex with a woman over 150 pounds,” that only ugly people and feminists think that beauty is on the inside — were not “the meanest quotes [he’s] ever written.” Not even close. Nor did Roosh’s segments on the show much resemble a soccer match — or even a Jerry Springer show. It was actually fairly tame, by daytime talk show standards.

I tried to take the conversation out of feelings and into logic by claiming that thin women are objectively more attractive and that obesity is causing huge public health problems, but they specifically wanted to focus on me and my “hatred” and all the feelings I’m hurting. The debate was framed in a way to not bring up facts that went against the party line.

Not really. Roosh was given a good deal of time in which he could have set forth his “facts.” He simply didn’t have any facts to report. Even aside from Roosh’s assholery, his entire “fat shaming” campaign is built upon a premise that numerous studies have found to be false; on the show, Roosh more or less admitted that he’s done precisely zero actual research on the issue.

After frothing up the audience to despise me, Dr. Oz initiated the two minutes of hate. He found the fattest women in the New York area and put them on steel reinforced seats to insult me as they wished. The crowd cheered and applauded after each fat woman gave her prepared diatribe. It was at this point I started examining the crowd of mostly women. I made eye contact with a few to see if they would stick their tongue out at me or wag their finger, but they didn’t. They were motionless mannequins that waited for the flashing studio light to give a response.

I’m not quite sure why Roosh expected women to stick their tongues out at him like three-year-olds, but whenever Oz’s producers cut to the audience, I didn’t see “motionless mannequins”; I saw women incredulous and disgusted by what he had to say. If anyone on the show appeared robotic, it was Roosh.

At one point, Roosh reports,

I looked at Dr. Oz and wondered if he would cap it all off by punching me. It would make for good television, at least.

Towards the end of his appearance, Roosh continues,.

I squeezed in a decent bit about how fat acceptance shortens everyone’s life spans, and I heard a gasp from somewhere as if what I said was shocking, and realized that my statement will probably be edited out.

Nope. It wasn’t. Again, Roosh had plenty of opportunity to present his case, such as it is; it’s not Dr. Oz’ fault that the “leader of the international fat shaming movement” didn’t have much of a case to present.

Which makes sense, because it’s blindingly obvious that Roosh doesn’t actually care about the well-being of fat women (or men); he just wants them to feel shitty.

Yet he still feels, somehow, that he is trying to save Western Civilization. Before he went on the show, he writes, he delivered the following monologue to a friend of his who went with him to the taping:

Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land. But here I am, with makeup on my face, about to talk about fat people, because now the world values entertainment more than anything else. They want singers and actors and famous people to make them forget about their boring lives, and even women we meet want the same. I was given some type of ability by god or nature so that I am wanted here right now in this building during this strange time of humanity, and so I will use that ability, and give everyone their entertainment.

Sorry to break it to you, Roosh, but you’re not nearly as entertaining as you think you are.

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Dreadnought
Dreadnought
5 years ago

Now I have two reasons to hate Dr. Oz: #1) spreading and promoting pseudo-science #2) giving this hateful bigot airtime.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

That has made my day 🙂 I will now go check out the interview now.

I can’t help wondering, what on earth did Roosh think was going to happen? That a bunch of stick thin models would rush forward to thank him for shaming them into starving themselves into meeting his exacting beauty standards?

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

I love Oz and his audience.

“The proudly amoral “pickup artist” is complaining that he was seduced, used, and abandoned.”

I love you too Karma he was totally begging for it I mean just look at him and listen to what he’s been saying all this time.

L
L
5 years ago

“Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land.”

WAT. What’s stopping him from being a soldier now??? I mean, apart from the fact that the army probably wouldn’t have him, but he’s saying this like soldiers don’t exist anymore when they clearly do. As if the only thing stopping him from being a soldier is…fat women and feminism?

Lewis Muirhead - WCWFromTheBeginning

Too low for Dr Oz. That’s really something.

Shotagonist
Shotagonist
5 years ago

“Sorry to break it to you, Roosh, but you’re not nearly as entertaining as you think you are.”

You think so? I can laugh about him a lot…

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

Roosh was on national TV?

WHAT HAVE WE DONE.

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
5 years ago

Sweet, sweet schadenfreude.

totallyalphadudebro
totallyalphadudebro
5 years ago

This is the worst type of injustice that could be visited upon Doosh and his manosphere brethren-to be treated the way they think women should be treated. In their eyes anyway.

drst
drst
5 years ago

Damn I don’t want to be on Dr. Oz’s side on anything (he’s a huge contributor to fat hate given how much bullshit he spouts about weight loss and the dangerous products he pushes on his show). I’d rather he not have given Douche a platform but at least he gave him the rope to hang himself in the process.

blanktie
blanktie
5 years ago

“Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land.”

Oh how sad it is that you’ll never get to steal/rape “their” women. Guess you’ll just have to stick with regular old date rape then eh? Ugh.

anonz
anonz
5 years ago

Lol, let me get this straight. Rather than take this opportunity to demonstrate that you aren’t a hack yourself, you’re so desperate to get one over on your mortal enemy that you choose to publicly side with a con artist like Dr. Oz to drive your point home? The same charlatan who was in all likelihood shamelessly hawking weight loss pills to his braindead audience minutes after the end of his Roosh segment? Really?

I suppose that it isn’t really that surprising. Between your general lack of integrity and the hopeless tundra pigs you pander to, you and Dr. Oz do share a lot in common. Birds of a feather…

Here’s a PR tip. Sometimes, less really is more.

Then again, you aren’t exactly the poster boy for that idiom, aren’t you fatrelle?

Elektra Kenway
5 years ago

“Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders,”

Delusional!!!

“or invading another tribe to steal their women and land.”

Well, that sounds a lot more like him.

MaudeLL
MaudeLL
5 years ago

Both Oz and Roosh are clowns. I have no respect for quacks using the title ‘Dr.’ to add a veneer of legitimacy to their scam remedies.
Roosh is funny to complain about other people’s feelings in an emotional post about his hurt feelings though. Add one point to the irony-meter.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Roosh is shocked that the producers of a sleazy talk show were manipulative. Haha! Poor baby! He probably went to all the trouble of wiping his ass for the appearance too. Life’s tough.

Olive O'Sudden
Olive O'Sudden
5 years ago

Dr. Oz may not be a out-and-proud advocate of fat-shaming, but he does use his media presence and medical credentials to promote the endless goal of weight-loss through ineffective and dangerous supplements and ‘miracle pills’. He may tell Congress that he believes that weight loss can only result from diet and exercise and that supplements can’t produce real, long-lasting results, but that’s not what he’s telling his viewers. Dr. Oz contributes and helps maintain an environment of fat-phobia by focusing on weight loss as the goal of eating nutritious food and engaging in physical activity, rather than physical and psychological wellness. He relies on fat-phobia to drive his viewership. Dr. Oz doesn’t tell his viewers that the pills he’s shilling for are useless, or that the statistics on weight loss suggest that the best course of action for the overwhelming majority of people is to stop worrying about their size and instead eat quality food and move their bodies in ways that they’re able in order to improve strength and flexibility.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
5 years ago

*has a pie shoved in his face*

Very well. Once, I may have been a Knight or a Samurai. But now we live in this fallen, decrepit world. I will use my gifts to be a clown if that is what the world desires.

*I am unceremoniously ushered offstage*

The Knitting Cinephile
The Knitting Cinephile
5 years ago

I can’t help but think Oz (he is not a doctor as far as I’m concerned, just like Phil McGraw is not a doctor either) did this as a ploy to take some of the askance press off himself. So both of them are douchebags. I didn’t need a TV show to tell me that. Now, put Oz, Phil, Roosh, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio on the same show — that I will watch. I think they would create a vacuum with their big mouths and perhaps all four would implode, ridding the world of their distasteful presences once and for all.

Linax5
Linax5
5 years ago

why isnt there any woman who fat shames big men because they’re not sexy enough?

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

men would “rather die than have sex with a woman over 150 pounds,”

Well, what a coinkydink. I’m just such a woman, and I would rather die than have sex with Roosh.

Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land. But here I am, with makeup on my face, about to talk about fat people, because now the world values entertainment more than anything else. They want singers and actors and famous people to make them forget about their boring lives, and even women we meet want the same. I was given some type of ability by god or nature so that I am wanted here right now in this building during this strange time of humanity, and so I will use that ability, and give everyone their entertainment.

Oh Rooshie, you’re only entertaining by accident. When people laugh at you, it’s not because you told a joke. You ARE the joke.

thedxman
5 years ago

Pro tip: if you’re in a metaphorical hole, what you need is a ladder (or rope and hook, the ability to fly, jumping boots, a trampoline, climbing pegs, someone on the outside, a helping hand, a skyhook), not a shovel.

GhostBird
GhostBird
5 years ago

Oh my god. Would someone please get me a space shuttle, as I need to ascend into lower earth orbit to retrieve my sides. You just….you cannot make this shit up. You simply cannot. Also, Roosh would do well to lay off his purple prose – he’s starting to sound like an H P Lovecraft knock off.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Oh, and Roosh? I was already over the deadly 150 mark when I first had sex. So, I guess, there goes another of your unresearched pet theories, eh?

Sav
Sav
5 years ago

“invading another tribe to steal their women”
did this PoS just admit to wanting to be a rapist

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

I didn’t relize there are people who didn’t like Oz besides the men who call him a “wh***” because he helps women and not Teh Menz seriously what about them?

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

Oz is a sleazy hack, but apparently even evil has standards.

jubal
5 years ago

@fruitloopsie: Oz is a quack. He might be a skilled surgeon, but his TV persona has nothing to do with actual medicine.

magnesium
magnesium
5 years ago

Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles …

lol what? Does he think there are no more soldiers or wars any more? He could be doing this right now, the big tough guy that he is. He’d last maaaaaybe a week, assuming no one in the army minds if he doesn’t brush his teeth or wipe his bottom.

idledillettante
5 years ago

Wow check out the salt and pepper on Roosh V. I’ve said this before, but he’s aging like R’as Al Ghul. Give it another few years and he’ll have to style himself as a “silver fox” or “distinguished man” or whatever old farts are say to score with women ages 25 and under.

This whole episode almost makes up for the time Roosh V put up my picture on his Twitter, asking his followers “are you surprised by her appearance”?

I guess in Rooshland one’s appearance has a direct relationship with the merit of their opinions. Aging must be very scary for him since he’ll lose his dashing good looks. Better start working on that Lazarus Pit.

idledillettante
5 years ago

“Dashing good looks” sarcasm by the way. Roosh is barely an HB8 in his own parlance. But if he was a HB10, it still wouldn’t make him any less repellent.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Not a fan of Oz and his willingness to give time to quacks and pseudomedicine, but he does have a significant audience. There are worse things Oz has done.

isidore13
isidore13
5 years ago

Roosh’s post: “It was a surreal moment for sure, to… be stuck in a rigged match where there was no way I could appear reasonable or even myself.”

So basically he was also made to feel the way he wants women to feel at all times: trapped and terrified of fucking up.

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

Er, if that was directed at me, David, I think you misunderstood me – I meant that Roosh is apparently too despicable even for a hack like Oz.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

“Dashing good looks” sarcasm by the way. Roosh is barely an HB8 in his own parlance. But if he was a HB10, it still wouldn’t make him any less repellent.

You’re too kind. To me, he’s a -2/10, Would Not Bang, Would Run Away Screaming Like My Hair Was On Fire.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Anonz,
Learn to troll better.

This is a mockery blog. We’re mocking Roosh and the embarrassment that is his blog and for that matter, his whole life.

Why are you blathering about PR? Nobody cares.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Anonymous,
He was referring to a concern troll named Anonz. You can scroll up to read it. Or not. You wouldn’t be missing much.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

I’ve heard Dr. Oz is a brilliant heart surgeon, but that’s where his expertise stops. He’s like a dentist talking about asthma treatments.

Tessa
Tessa
5 years ago

Wow…

I looked around, half hoping for a hug or some assurance that everything was going to be okay, but realized that the staff who were so cheery earlier knew all along that they were ushering me to a public execution. They sedated me with niceities so I would not be mentally prepared for what was about to happen.

That had to be on purpose… Right? He had to see the irony. Just wow. And he says he looked around, half hoping for a hug and assurance, but then criticizes Dr. Oz for being emotional. Shouldn’t a real man be able to be manly and not need emotional support?

Hundreds of years ago, I would have been a soldier, fighting battles to defend my country against invaders, or invading another tribe to steal their women and land.

Because of course women are property of their tribe, country etc. to be stolen… And, I know others have said it before, but umm did the US secretly dissolve its military in the past 15 years? (Oh wow, he was born the same year as me… My birth year will be forever tainted.) He totally could have joined the army back in 2000. Heck, in 2003 we invaded another land! That’s much less than centuries ago. Why wasn’t he there then since he seems to see it as a given that’s what men should do? Heck, women volunteered. And Roosh couldn’t?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

did this PoS just admit to wanting to be a rapist

He has previously admitted to actually being a rapist, so no shockers there for me.

freemage
5 years ago

Policy of Madness: I’ll go further and say that this was likely one of the best things that Oz has ever done; it’s just a pity the bar is so damned low.

Bryce
Bryce
5 years ago

I was under the impression that Roosh was a marginal figure, even within the MRM, but now he’s made his way onto daytime television…

Why the hell is this odious guy being given a platform? (Such as it is.)

Anonymous
Anonymous
5 years ago

@David

Ooh, OK. My bad. That wasn’t there when I first read the comments, and I neglected to check further up thereafter.

Also, I guess this is what I get for posting anonymously when trolls are using similar-sounding handles.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

@Bryce

Because the world is cold, cruel place where filth is found everywhere, and even the most innocent are forced into the dirt, the mud, oozing into their mouths as they gasp and gurgle “why…why..” through the tears.

Although, in all seriousness, I asked myself the same question.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

@Anonymous

That’s why I changed my name to something ridiculous since there was another Jackie (who was trolling it seemed).

zblongladder
5 years ago

Does…Roosh not think there were entertainers in the ancient world? You know, like the famous Greek plays? Seriously, we’ve been entertaining each other since we’ve had the capacity for communication.

Oh, and Roosh, you can totally still be a soldier, you know. We’ve got way more of those than we have entertainers.

Gipsz Jakab
Gipsz Jakab
5 years ago

@Banana Jackie Cake

Oh, right. I vaguely remember seeing that guy vomit up stupid words while I was lurking.

I suppose I shall henceforth be known as Gipsz Jakab, though don’t expect me to post often – I’m more of a lurker.

theboost
theboost
5 years ago

What’s stopping Roosh from being a soldier?

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
5 years ago

“Dr. Oz initiated the two minutes of hate.”

There are many, many fuckups on display here, but even with the advantage of writing a post for his own blog, he couldn’t be bothered to reference 1984 correctly.

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