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Still fuming over their expulsion from the Calgary Expo, the Honey Badgers demand justice. And money. Lots of money.

The Honey Badgers at A Voice for Men's conference last summer
The Honey Badgers at A Voice for Men’s conference last summer

The Honey Badger Brigade — the all-female-except-not-really gaggle of antifeminist YouTubers — has been raising money, and quite a lot of it, to pay their possible legal bills as they seek “legal redress” against the Calgary Expo for booting them from the event.

So far they’ve raised nearly $14,000 of their goal of $40,000, which they say “will be used for legal costs and costs directly related to our ejection from the Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo,” whatever that means. That gives them some wiggle room.  As “victims” go, they’re pros.

On the group’s fundraising page, the Badgers accuse the Expo of tossing them out

due to our Men’s Rights Activism and unpopular view of modern feminism. Therefore it is our belief that the actions taken by the Calgary Expo staff were of a political nature and contravene the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, in particular freedom of conscience, freedom of thought and freedom of association.

Apparently this is one of the most important civil right struggles of our time.

While the Expo hasn’t given a clear reason for why the Honey Badgers were evicted, I’m guessing it’s not for the group’s “view of modern feminism” but because the group came to the expo flying the figurative flag of GamerGate, a loosely organized but highly virulent harassment campaign disguised, not very convincingly, as a campaign for “ethics in game journalism.” Oh, and possibly because they seem to have gotten into the expo under false pretenses.

Even if we were to assume that the Honey Badgers were booted for being Men’s Rights Activists, there is a teensy bit of irony to their complaint. You see, the HBB is closely tied to Men’s Rights hate site A Voice for Men. Indeed the two most visible HB’s — Alison Tieman and Karen “GirlWritesWhat” Straughan — are volunteer staffers on the AVFM masthead, as is HB hanger-on Sage Gerard.

Last summer, most or all of the HBB attended AVFM’s first conference, held outside Detroit; Straughan spoke at it. Here they are posing with their AVFM comrades.

Honey Badgers and friends at the AVFM conference
Honey Badgers and friends at the AVFM conference

You know who wasn’t at that conference? Feminists, whom the event organizers made pretty plain were not welcome. Indeed, as journalist Jeff Sharlet noted in his remarkable account of the conference in GQ, attendees seemed to be obsessed with defending their little event against an angry mob of feminists that never materialized.

They keep saying, “No feminist better try coming here!” Local police have dispatched four officers, and the conference attendees have deputized even more security from their own ranks. “Security” wears black polo shirts, and there are a lot of black polo shirts, but since the line is slow, security decides to sweep us all in with a request to return for a “check.” Nobody does. Only one feminist later attempts entry, an activist who goes by the handle “Dark Horse Swore.” The black shirts eighty-six her.

Only a few of these dastardly feminists made it into the event, posing as  journalists. Oh, wait, they were journalists. Somehow I suspect that security at AVFM’s planned conference this year will be tighter.

I also suspect that the Honey Badgers will be there, recounting the story of the terrible injustice done to them by the Calgary Expo.

H/T — @idlediletante on Twitter, who’s been keeping tabs on the money so many #GamerGaters are raking in.

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Leisha Young
Leisha Young
5 years ago

At what point do they have to stop and think…why is everyone against us? Is there something in that?

I understand that the most popular way is not always the best way, but in this case you have bucket loads of intelligent, well read and educated people telling you that the way you think is outdated, archaic and regressive.

I just don’t understand what makes women like this tick?? Is it an overwhelming desire for male attention? Are they masochists? What is it about these women that makes them hate feminism so much and to make them turn against the emancipation of their own gender? Stockholm syndrome maybe?

Eh! I just don’t’ understand…

Suzy Q
Suzy Q
5 years ago

@Leisha

Ever heard the saying “What you hate most is your own shadow” (or something like that)? Call me crazy but I think it’s projection of their own dislike of themselves.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Leisha Young
“Why should I work hard when I can just get men to do everything for me including giving me attention and money!” Is my guess

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
5 years ago

Or what Suzy Q said

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Also, do they seriously believe that laws protecting free speech require private entities give a platform for anyone who requests it? If this were the case, the I could submit an anti-GamerGate rant to the Honey Badgers and sue them for refusing to read it on their channel.

That I would LOVE to see!
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Machine Gun Sally
Machine Gun Sally
5 years ago

I just don’t understand what they think they could be sueing for. I mean, the argument on their side would be something like: “We lied and violated their policies to get in and then… they noticed!”

YoullNeverGuess
5 years ago

I’m sure this makes no difference legally, but the HBs say that the Calgary Expo received some government funding. Therefore, it should be subject to the same rules as a government institution, not a private entity.

They get everything wrong, so this is almost certainly wrong too, but I’m not a lawyer. Or Canadian.

Karl
Karl
5 years ago

Wow, I would *love* to see them try a lawsuit.

While we do have a few ambulance chasers up here, every lawyer I’ve met takes their bar oath very seriously. The Alberta bar oath puts loyalty to the court *way* before loyalty to their clients. (Seriously – the oath goes something like loyalty to the Queen, to the law, then justice, no bringing frivolous cases, no prejudice, and then mentions protecting the clients’ interests as the *very* last thing.)

I’m pretty sure that after any lawyer finds out they’re members of a hate group and that they publicly admitted to engaging in fraud order to obtain entry to a private event, and that they want to sue over being kicked out _because of that fraud_, would just tell them “you have no case” and bill them a couple hundred bucks for the consultation.

Presuming they still push it, that means they’d be representing themselves – with all of the popcorn-worthy moments that would entail.

And once the judge discovers _why_ they’re representing themselves (that a lawyer told them they were idiots), they’ll find themselves having to pay lots of money for the Calgary Expo’s lawyers.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

@MGS: I imagine they just want martyrdom. It’s very likely that they know they don’t have a leg to stand on, but are willing to go through it anyway to stand up for “Truth” (out of spite of facts), “Justice” (for white, cishet dudes), and the MRA way.

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

I do like how Canada is technically a monarchy, sharing a Queen with the rest of the Commonwealth. That, and they’re technically a sane country (except for First Nations issues) despite being next to the most belligerent nation on the planet.

The news of how their desperate attempt to game a fair and just system fails will be thoroughly reported here, and for that I am also grateful.

gelar
gelar
5 years ago

And once the judge discovers _why_ they’re representing themselves … they’ll find themselves donors having to pay lots of money for the Calgary Expo’s lawyers.

Couldn’t resist.

Dawn Incognito
Dawn Incognito
5 years ago

@brooked:

These name start off pretty normal, then it turns into a list of the worst superhero and/or DJ names ever.

Can a mammotheer more artistically talented than I design the superhero Observing Libertarian? (Let’s be honest, since they’re a Honey Badger, they’re more likely to be a supervillain.)

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I’m sure this makes no difference legally, but the HBs say that the Calgary Expo received some government funding. Therefore, it should be subject to the same rules as a government institution, not a private entity.

It isn’t. Getting some government funding ≠ being a government institution. There are private publishing houses up here subsidized in part by government grants. The government doesn’t own or operate them. It merely provides some money for them to run on. Same applies to Calgary Expo.

In short, the Money Badgers don’t have a case.

cretaceouskitteh78
cretaceouskitteh78
5 years ago

I Googled the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and unless it was the government at any level denying them their freedoms of conscience, thought, or assembly, they don’t seem to have a case. Any word on if they plan on refunding any monies not used on legal fees? Is it a violation of the terms and conditions of the fundraising site they’re using if they don’t use the money as intended or refund unused money?

Fabe
Fabe
5 years ago

I will not be surprised if they try and make like Billy Joe and Bobby Sue and take the money and run

katz
5 years ago

Any word on if they plan on refunding any monies not used on legal fees?

*snrk*

th1stle
th1stle
5 years ago

I just don’t understand what makes women like this tick?? Is it an overwhelming desire for male attention? Are they masochists? What is it about these women that makes them hate feminism so much and to make them turn against the emancipation of their own gender? Stockholm syndrome maybe?

Two theories:

I know it’s just a movie quote, but remember what Beni said in ‘The Mummy’? “It is better to be the right hand of the devil than in his path.”

For fear of being targets, they start by identifying with their oppressors, saying they’re “not like the others,” they’re the “cool” ones that totally don’t mind all the oppressive shit. Then they go further and internalize all that hatred and eventually, they start to believe it. In exchange for not being targets, they align with their oppressors and do their bidding.

OR

They are simply women who hate other women. I like to think of Honey Badger Women as caricatures like Uncle Ruckus from the Boondocks (an Uncle Tom analogue). They hate for the sake of hating. They may even hate themselves, but hate other women more, so, who knows…

sparky
sparky
5 years ago

So far they’ve raised nearly $14,000 of their goal of $40,000, which they say “will be used for legal costs and costs directly related to our ejection from the Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo,”

o_O It is way, way too easy to con these men’s rights people out of their money.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

@sparky

Like taking candy from a whiny, 20 year old baby.

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
5 years ago

Any word on if they plan on refunding any monies not used on legal fees?

All funds submitted to this fundraiser will be used for legal costs and costs directly related to our ejection from the Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo. We will be keeping track of expenses and providing expense reports as we’re able.

At this time we are unsure what our total expenses will be as we pursue legal action. We will update this page as we get more information.

As per concerns posted in the comments here and elsewhere, a preliminary cost estimate for taking legal action is 40k+, depending on what legal avenues we decide to pursue.

In addition when all of our legal costs are finalized, we will ask the donors who’ve donated over and above whatever final amount what they want the additional money to go to, either a refund or to HB projects/cost recovery(if they weren’t covered via the lawsuit.)

The only suggestion in the comments is for them to use the unspent money to go to another con! Activism! Selling gg t-shirts will from a booth will… mumble something mumble censorship!

ryohji
ryohji
5 years ago

I thought Honey Badgers don’t care. How things change.

Michael Lindsay
5 years ago

I really wonder what justification women have for joining forces with AVFM. Granted AVFM are real picky about which men they choose to defend the rights of but one thing they aren’t for is the rights of women in any way shape or form.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Karl

ambulance chasers

The best bit of ambulance chasing I saw was when I was walking to a train station with a solicitor friend. We encountered a bunch of police officers who’d just chased and caught some guy and were now sitting on top of him as he was trying to kick off.

My mate just walked over, said “excuse me” and slipped one of his business cards into the arrested guy’s pocket.

idledillettante
5 years ago

Pita- they can’t claim breach of contract because they promised to the con that they were there to promote Tieman’s webcomic Xenospora. They even had donations to fund their trip going to a paypal account called “Xenospora@gmail.com”. Tieman’s been banned from all the cons this group holds indefinitely for misrepresenting the purpose of the booth.

If they claimed the expo was in breach of contract, well, so we’re they.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

What are “costs directly related to (their) ejection?” That’s pretty vague. If they’re going to start demanding that the Expo reimburse them for fees and expenses, then they owe similar restitution to the attendees whose time and money they wasted by intentionally derailing the panel.

This will never happen, but I’d love to see the donors file a countersuit for fraud when the case gets thrown out of court and no refunds or transparent cost accounting are forthcoming, necessitating yet another legal defense fundraising appeal, followed by another lawsuit, and on and on in a circle until the whole thing collapses in on itself in a kind of suckers’ singularity.

Tina S
Tina S
5 years ago

Geez, fourteen thousand dollars and they want forty?! And people are giving them money?

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

@Tina S: one thing the manosphere is really quite good at is overstating how much money they desperately need.

parceltongue
5 years ago

Heh. Sounds legit.

isidore13
isidore13
5 years ago

Yeah, forty grand is enough to give each honey badger 2k with daddy Elam getting his tithing. I don’t know why their followers don’t realize they’re being scammed.

venny
venny
5 years ago

“They aren’t gonna do shit, just pocket the money. They are the laziest group of false starters. They raised money for a “smear campaign” to target my husband. Literally nothing ever happened from it.”

why did they say they wanted to do a smear campaign? when was this?

thomathy
thomathy
5 years ago

Well, they won’t be suing Calgary Expo at all in the sense that people would generally presume. You don’t sue people for human rights violations in Canada, exactly. You would bring a complaint to a Human Rights Tribunal or the Human Rights Commission (I don’t know what tier, Provincial or Federal, they would need to bring such a complaint to first in Alberta) and then, there may be an investigation and there may be a ‘trial’ or it will go to ADR (alternative dispute resolution). Typically, the defendant will end up paying legal costs if there isn’t a mediated resolution. They may be fined, they may be ordered to pay the victims damages.

This is a well documented event (thanks Honey Badgers!), it was a private event (which is not actually exempt from human rights legislation or the Charter as it may be applied), and the organisers have said exactly as much as they need to publicly about why they asked the Honey Badgers to leave the event, which doesn’t amount to a human rights violation. (No one is obliged to provide a platform for other people to exercise their freedom of expression, which seems to be something the Honey Badgers believe differently.)

I could be wrong (I don’t think I am), but the Honey Badgers have already put the kibosh to their plans to take legal action against the Calgary Expo; they’ve been very vocal about why they think they were allegedly kicked out and it wasn’t for being any specifically protected class named or intended in any legislation. The Calgary Expo says that they asked them to leave for contravening their mandate, they say they were kicked out in violation of their freedom of expression. (Well, they don’t say that exactly, but then they wouldn’t use any actual words referencing Charters or legislation that they don’t know a thing about.)

This won’t even spark the interest of the poor mail room clerk who would have to date stamp their complaint, except to perhaps illicit some giggles if they decided to google these Honey Badgers. The threshold for such a complaint is so low, though, that they may just get away with wasting some Canadian tax dollars. That’s something.

Matthew Cline
Matthew Cline
5 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw

Sometimes though you can argue “horizontal effect”. This is where the actions of non-government concerns, such as a private business infringes on rights. So imagine that a location has a number of private golf clubs. Theoretically a private club has complete discretion over who it admits as a member, but if, in practice, no black person will be accepted in any of the clubs there is a possible claim on the grounds that collectively they’re denying a right not to be discriminated against on grounds of race.

Wouldn’t they have to establish a pattern to argue for a horizontal effect? So far they’ve just been thrown out of a single con.

Sarah
Sarah
5 years ago

I really wonder what justification women have for joining forces with AVFM. Granted AVFM are real picky about which men they choose to defend the rights of but one thing they aren’t for is the rights of women in any way shape or form.

It’s a little bit like women (and other minorities, for that matter) as Republicans and/or public right-wingers. (I know I’m going with US politics on this, but I’m really not that familiar with the politics of most other countries; I have a passing familiarity with some of the politics of Latin America.) In the Democratic Party and leftist institutions you can get women and minorities at a dime a dozen, and for them it actually is a labor of love. Much of the driving force for change and increase in social justice is by people who have borne the brunt of social injustice. But a woman or a minority who goes over to, for lack of a better description (and because I can’t resist a good Star Wars reference), the Dark Side can find a mostly-homogenous sea of white dudes who nowadays are very sensitive to criticism about being hostile to women and minorities. A woman or a minority can become a rising star in that situation, as long as they’re willing to walk the party line and understand that they are there for decoration. I read an article years ago about how, when Republicans get together for photo-ops, the women and minorities find themselves getting pushed to the front where they can be prominently seen. And somewhere on my hard drive is a PDF from a black conservative who attended the Republican National Convention and commented on how white the audience was. There were plenty of minorities among the speakers at that convention.

Also part of the issue with younger women and minorities who join up with Republicans or Libertarians is that they are drawn in by the language that promotes independent thought. I was very attracted by the idea of not being one of the “sheeple” when I was a young person struggling to define myself, which is why I took up with RWs when I was young. It took me working several years at a shit job where I was making shit for money and getting treated like shit before I began to appreciate how right-wing politics does not do anything for me. (I suspect that’s the other issue for young conservatives. They have no personal experience with adversity, real adversity, and for all I think it is important to teach history in school I don’t think that young people, many of whom are growing up with more privilege than previous generations, can appreciate what it meant, to give an example, for workers to organize a labor strike or for women to be legally unable to obtain birth control.)

1kingofkings
5 years ago

wonder if this event will change their mind about being feminists?!! Lololol

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I was raised conservative by my parents but to be honest, it was the internet that turned me liberal. I read accounts and stories of marginalised groups, began to understand how people who weren’t WASPs like myself were living. Got hooked and read more. Changed my beliefs and sense of morality from what I had been taught. It’s why my parents and I don’t talk politics or deep issues, because we WILL fall out. My dad in fact went into my room to use our computer and saw the WHTM page I had left up. He returned to where I was in the living room and said “You’re into feminism? Oh dear.” He meant it lightly, but I think he’s bought into the feminism = male oppression lie.

That’s what happens when you read the fucking Daily Mail too much. If I could have my way that shit would be contraband in the house but sadly he keeps sneaking out to buy a copy. Sigh.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

That was in response to Sarahs post.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ sunnysombrera

it was the internet that turned me liberal

That sounds like one of those McCarthy era Public Information Films.

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
5 years ago

In case it’s uncool to embed a Honey Badger video (Honey Badger Radio 2: Pressed by the Press starting at 43:08), here’s a transcription of part of Allison Tieman’s rationalization:

They don’t get to silence us when we have a different view of gender because this is part of what it is. Me, Karen, Hannah – I don’t know about Anna; she’s pretty feminine – but we are what you might say masculine women which means we are technically not cis-gendered. Because transsexual is not being the physical sex that you think you are. Transgender is not exactly fitting into the mold of the gender or the social roles that are expected of you. And damselling is very much a social role expected of women and those women who it doesn’t come easily to, to reduce them down to victims, to those women that is discrimination to ignore our voices in the public sphere.

And, from what I’ve heard, it doesn’t matter whether a entity is public or private, legally they cannot discriminate on the grounds of gender, they cannot discriminate on the grounds of freedom of conscience, they cannot discriminate on the grounds of freedom of thought or freedom of association. It doesn’t matter if they take public money or not. Even a private comedy club could be sued for discriminating on those grounds.

o_O How’s that for pretzel logic?

opium4themasses
5 years ago

I still think parsing FeMRAs motives is a mistake. They do much the same thing to male feminists with their suggestions of being sad sycophants trying to get laid. We don’t need to make bullshit, pathologizing theories.

I take them at their word that they sincerely hold noxious beliefs.

Just think of old bullshit thoughts you had previously. You most likely sincerely held them due to a lack of perspective, lack of information, or a lack of experience.

I think a better explanation is that they tend to be more traditionalist in their think on sex and gender, supported by a strong confirmation bias. They see feminists as working against these deeply ingrained notions and lash out. We just see the worst and most toxic of them online.

Though a lot of the hate for feminism makes me think of Obamacare. Obamacare’s individual pieces are very, very popular by and large, but because of concerted efforts against Obamacare, the law overall was very unpopular.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

They called themselves transgender just because they aren’t “feminine woman” and don’t “damsel”?

They really are FUCKING IGNORANT. God, fuck, they could at least KNOW what the words they’re using MEAN! Fuck, YOU’RE ON THE INTERNET. YOU CAN JUST TYPE WHAT WORDS MEAN, LIKE, RIGHT IN THE URL BAR AND FIND THE DEFINITION.

YOU DON’T GET TO MAKE WORDS UP YOURSELF.

AND THEY’RE FUCKING “DAMSELING” WITH THIS FUCKING MONEY DONATION BILLSHIT PLOY SO THEY’RE JUST BEING MASSIVELY HYPOCRITICAL.

THESE MRASSHOLE WHO GAVE THEM MONEY AFTER THIS MUST BE THE MOST IGNORANT, STUPIDEST SHITS EVER SHAT OUT.

SDFHASDGHFJHASGDFJGASFGJASHGDFJHASG

katz
5 years ago

They don’t get to silence us when we have a different view of gender because this is part of what it is. Me, Karen, Hannah – I don’t know about Anna; she’s pretty feminine – but we are what you might say masculine women which means we are technically not cis-gendered. Because transsexual is not being the physical sex that you think you are. Transgender is not exactly fitting into the mold of the gender or the social roles that are expected of you. And damselling is very much a social role expected of women and those women who it doesn’t come easily to, to reduce them down to victims, to those women that is discrimination to ignore our voices in the public sphere.

What.

What.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

I meant “you don’t get to make up definition of words yourself”. In fact, I don’t even know why I put in that line.

It’s just that whole logic thing…just…stupid.

Stupid. They’re stupid. They’re just throwing words they’ve heard “SJWs” and “liebruls” say at the screen and it’s just wrong.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
5 years ago

Although, actually, it would make sense that they want to be “men” in the sense that they want all the rights men have, but also don’t want to be associated with feminism. But, you know, they’re still ignorant shits.

(Also, sorry for so many posts. I’m just kinda out of it today.)

venny
venny
5 years ago

“Although, actually, it would make sense that they want to be “men” in the sense that they want all the rights men have,”

they already have all the rights that men have.

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
5 years ago

Jackie, I share your outrage. Even if they were to argue they’re bi or queer, that’s not the reason they were booted! If they’re trying to manufacture a reason to go to the Alberta Human Rights Commission, they have no argument.

If they do go that route:

The Act does not allow a person to make a human rights complaint to the Commission with malicious intent. If a person makes a complaint with malicious intent, and the complaint is also frivolous (having no merit whatsoever) or vexatious (made with the sole purpose of harassing another person), the respondent can make a human rights complaint against the complainant.

http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/complaints/complainant_info/guide.asp

Much of the grumbling I’ve been seeing is about teaching the Calgary Expo a lesson. Good luck with that, damsels!

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

Transgender is not exactly fitting into the mold of the gender or the social roles that are expected of you. And damselling is very much a social role expected of women and those women who it doesn’t come easily to, to reduce them down to victims, to those women that is discrimination to ignore our voices in the public sphere.

I suppose at least now they understand that “victim” is not a category that people choose to become a part of, but one that external forces cause them to be part of?

Oh wait, that’d be the reasonable thing to do. No no, they are the exceptions! Barely even women, because a woman’s natural role is to become a victim!

You know what the strangest part of it is? They are the ones who rail against “victims,” who claim that women “damsel” to get social support and money. And guess what; when they, according to their own beliefs, put on the mantle of victim by saying they were discriminated against by being kicked out of the con, they got people to give them $14,000.

Would they say that that money is something they cheated their supporters out of, or would they say that that money is legitimate unlike all the other cases of women raising money for a cause?

bekabot
5 years ago

I read an article years ago about how, when Republicans get together for photo-ops, the women and minorities find themselves getting pushed to the front where they can be prominently seen.

That was the case years ago, when there were still enough women and minorities in right-wing circles that they could still get pushed to the front where they could be prominently seen. In the Republican Party conventions of yore, for example (if you’re old enough you probably remember this) the camera used to linger on the clusters of black small businessmen and female entrepreneurs who were in the party because, yeah, they did want to get rich, they thought it was possible for them to get rich, and they also thought voting the Republican ticket would help them achieve their goals.

But that was then. The cameras no longer linger on the countenances of the women and POCs at Republican conventions because there aren’t enough of them there to make for good optics. When you see a black guy or a woman of any color at a right-wing get-together today, the only reaction the sight will arouse in you is how lonely that person looks. And that person will look lonely, because he or she will have little company to none. That’s not something the party shills want the American public to notice; it may sound conspiratorial, but it’s true.

I refer you (“you” being anybody who might be reading this) to any one of the numberless articles written by Republican women between (say) 1995 and about 2005, whose gist was “they’re driving us out of the party.” Actually, at first the gist was more “they’re trying to drive us out of the party”, then it turned into “they are driving us out of the party” which was succeeded by a pathetic little postmortem cough of “well, by now they’ve driven us almost totally out of the party.” Which was succeeded by nothing, of course, because by then the work of expulsion was complete. (That’s why Sarah Palin was such a find. During the Before-Time when reason still ruled, she would have been regarded, correctly, as a liability by the the people whose job it was to find the liabilities and identify them. She got bundled into the “asset” category only because the Republican Party grew anxious to demonstrate that it still had some women in it. Also, she was hot, which certainly didn’t hurt.)

That’s also why the Republicans are now waxing self-congratulatory about their two Hispanic candidates (one of them sorta-kinda Hispanic, the other most definitely Latino) — Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. They’re absolutely not a party which is willing to nominate a black candidate, let alone elect a black President, let alone nominate a female candidate, let alone elect a female President, but they can submit a couple slightly-darker-than-usual guys for serious consideration. That’s progress, folks.

(None of this is meant to contest what Sarah has to say; simply to enlarge upon it.)

venny
venny
5 years ago

“That’s also why the Republicans are now waxing self-congratulatory about their two Hispanic candidates (one of them sorta-kinda Hispanic, the other most definitely Latino) — Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz. ”

what does this mean? which one them is sorta-kinda Hispanic and which one is definitely Latino?

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
5 years ago

Here’s what will happen with the HBs’ lolsuit: they’ll raise the money, and then they’ll drop the case because SJWs. Then the money will be “gone” or nonrefundable for Reasons. And the gullible fools who sent them their pocket money will scream about SJWs stealing their money using totally not racist cartoons.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

I’m sorry, I can’t deal with the whole “We must be trans because we don’t ascribe to these stereotypical feminine traits we’ve arbitrarily decided feeemales do!” bullshit. I just cannot even fathom the mental gymnastics they had to have done to reach that conclusion.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/2606202/turk-walk-away-o.gif