“To say that men and women are created equal is to deny that gorillas and humans are different,” and other observations.

That’s… astonishing in the worst possible way. I’d like to see some of this “science” he talks about – does he believe that people like the current director of SETI are just figments of other people’s imagination?

So… Some schmuck copies and pastes a mindless rant from Yahoo Answers into the comment box, and you reward him with his own thread?

Banned@
for educational purposes and mocking, why not?!
people should know that this opinion is widespread so that they can, if they feel like, respond with witty and funny answers when they encounter this “philosophy” in their personal lives!

Man, he sounds miserable and so full of hate. Maybe he should focus on his appearance instead of “arguing” “facts.”

Banned@
Yeah, having that crap posted for everyone to see is a reward. My favorite part is the man telling feminists that they should focus on their appearance more. Everyone knows you can tell a feminist by her poor grooming.*

*Who wants to tell Karen Straughan and every male in the MRA movement that they’re really feminists, based on that whole not-looking-like-they-even-bathe-regularly thing they have going?

“Women that accept the FACT that their main purpose is to nurture and look good so men will choose them are the happiest. Just listen to feminazis on TV and irl…they sound miserable and are so full of hate.

They go through all that effort to try and prove that their equal, when science has proven otherwise …”

Hmm…yes. Of course. a small sample of individuals specifically chosen for television because they generate high viewership numbers [Hate-watching] is representative of the entire global gender.

So I expect you to agree that because I find so many male anchors and commentators miserable and hate filled watching the exact same TV shows that it is a scientifically proven fact that all males around the world are not worthy of mating with another human?

On your other point about the main purpose is to look good – I think any nature documentary would prove otherwise. In general it is the male of the species that has to prove to be the prettiest, the best looking, etc. Are you saying those male animals go against what nature intended?

“Don’t get me wrong, I love my girlfriend, and believe that women are the most beautiful creatures on this earth, but physically and mentally are proven to be less than your average male. …”

I suspect you have never talked to a live woman other than one with a female name in an automated customer service chat, not realizing it was actually prefabricated responses generated by a customer service computer program.

“It’s so funny that feminists get so butthurt and try so hard to earn respect only to be … seen as inferior to your average woman.

Maybe if they focused on their appearance instead of arguing facts, they might actually surprise themselves and be happy for a change.”

I imagine what would make them actually happy is to get true equality, not forced slavery to you. But hey what do I know? you clearly are the expert in women.

“To say that men and women are created equal is to deny that gorillas and humans are different. …”

Uhhh… those are completely different species. A more appropriate analogy is something like: “To say that men and women are created equal is to deny that one has a innie and one has an outie.”

“And if you notice … they go on these moral crusades and debates which are built entirely on emotions and not logic…much like the female brain ”

Yup. Not like your rant at all. Nope. No sir.

Sigh … David. I applaud you for having to read this crud every day.

@ Alan Robertshaw: I may not be a lesbian, but I’ll do my part to make “Suffering Sappho” an indispensable part of the English vernacular. “Suffering Sappho! The only Keurig pods left in the office kitchen are… decaf!“

Also, “Suffering Sappho!” does indeed need to become standard issue.

“The little smiley at the end is a nice touch, don’t you think?”

Yes, it appeals to my naturally emotional female brain. Letters are so masculine and I really need an extra estrogen vibe to get into things, you know?

One of my “favorite” things that MRAs all seem to believe is that feminists must be miserable because… well I guess any woman who steps out of her “natural” role as subservient to men and starts talking about how things could be a lot better for women everywhere just HAS to be unhappy. Nevermind that I, and many women, were much more unhappy when we were trying to force ourselves into into traditionally feminine, subservient roles, and have since found a greater sense of self once we stopped beating ourselves up about it or letting ourselves get pushed around. It goes hand in hand with thinking that anyone who argues against them is “angry,” which automatically invalidates anything they say (nevermind that half the time we’re chuckling behind out hands at them).

I was once in an unhappy, emotionally abusive relationship, one I felt I had to stay with because he was a “good guy” and he “never hurt me… yet” and he was just “troubled, once he builds his self confidence he’ll go out and get a job and help with the expenses and stop lazing around the apartment all day.” Add on to that the idea I had that, if I did leave him, I’d never find anyone else, because I was so frumpy and ugly and utterly failed at “feminine” things like fixing my hair properly and using makeup. I was pretty damn miserable, then.

It was learning more about feminism that saved me. I started to see the boxes I had been forced into, and to see ways out of them. I stopped caring about looking “pretty,” and decided I wanted to look “cool,” on my own terms. I’d always felt a bit like a punk stuck in a mousy nerd’s body; I’d refrained from getting any of the body mods I’d wanted for years because my boyfriend thought they looked “silly”. But I went out and got the tattoo memorial for my father I’d always wanted, and cut my hair in one of those punky sidecuts MRAs hate so much. And something remarkable happened; I started to like what I saw in the mirror! My self confidence shot through the roof.

I also figured out I wasn’t straight. I never told my boyfriend, because I knew his reaction would be trying to get me to agree to a threesome; he’d brought it up before, and I’d shot it down by assuring him I was completely straight. That should have been a red flag right there.

As that happened, I also started getting the nerve to stand up to my boyfriend. I realized that a lot of things I thought I agreed with him on were things he’d browbeaten me into agreeing with in order to avoid fights. So I stopped holding back, and sure enough, we fought. A LOT. And yeah, it sucked. He was one of those guys who’d become very defensive whenever I brought up anything about feminism or inequality in general; he’d try to bring up the fact that he was bullied in high school to prove he had no privilege. I did still love him, and I wanted him to understand where I was coming from, but he could never just listen, he always interpreted it as an attack. And during all this, he was still expecting me to put him first in everything, to give him constant attention when I was at home, to put my hobbies aside for his. I was also, still, the only one working (and going to school at the same time).

I finally dumped him when he blew up at me because I didn’t want to go with him to an arcade event, because I was exhausted from working particularly hard one week. I actually credit Captain Awkward, who I believe I found through this blog, for helping open my eyes to his behaviors and realize that, no mater how many times he made me cry and promised to change, he wasn’t going to.

Since then, I’ve been happier than I was in years. My sister and I moved into a new, much nicer apartment; she’s a much better roommate, and I actually have extra spending money with someone else helping to pay the bills! My anxiety issues have lessened significantly; turns out you’re not as on edge all the time when there isn’t someone there constantly belittling you. I’ve found that, contrary to what I thought, there are lots of people out there who like how I look, as well as the new self confidence that’s gone along with embracing myself, and I’ve been able to explore my sexuality with some really wonderful people. Feminism SAVED me from being miserable. I’m sure any MRA would tell me I’m lying to myself, but I’m over caring what any asshole dude thinks. But I want to help other women realize what I did, that my self worth isn’t dependent on men or what they think of me or what I can provide them. THAT’S why I’m a feminist.

Sorry for the ramble, I get verbose in the early mornings.

So, women that ‘focus on appearance’ appear happier? Did it occur to him that botox can produce that effect? Or, that being told that one is ‘prettier’ when they smile can give the illusion of happiness?

@Lisa C – Don’t forget the implied part is “focus on their appearance … that I am attracted to”. I mean it can’t be any appearance that makes a woman happy. It must be one that particular male is attracted to. So basically a woman’s entire personality and measure of self worth should be 100% tied to the whims of this one person.

Sigh … it makes me ashamed to be a guy sometimes when folks like him come out of the woodwork.