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Vox Day says his totally-not-racist comments have been taken out of context. In context they’re even worse.

Guys, wait up!
Guys, wait up!

Racist, woman-hating fantasy author Theodore Beale (aka Vox Day) is upset that people are calling him racist. I mean, it’s not like he called all black people “savages,” he objects; he merely called one black woman — speculative fiction author NK Jemisin — a “half-savage” in a portion of a blog post that, he complains, has been taken out of context. Indeed, he sniffs,

the fact that the same ungrammatical excerpt chopped out of the middle of a sentence keeps being trotted out again and again should alert the dialectical mind to the probability that there simply isn’t very much, if any, there there.

Ah, context! A lot of shitheads who say terrible things complain, when others point out these terrible things, that their words have been taken out of context. So I thought I’d do Vox a little favor here and provide the context to his infamous quote so we can all see how much there is there. 

You may notice that the context here does not actually make Vox look any less racist.

I’ve taken the liberty of bolding the especially egregious bits, though to be honest there isn’t much here that isn’t egregious:

Jemisin has it wrong; it is not that I, and others, do not view her as human, (although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homo sapiens sapiens), it is that we simply do not view her as being fully civilized for the obvious historical reason that she is not.

She is lying about the laws in Texas and Florida too.  The laws are not there to let whites ” just shoot people like me, without consequence, as long as they feel threatened by my presence”, those self-defense laws have been put in place to let whites defend their lives and their property from people, like her, who are half-savages engaged in attacking them.

Jemisin’s disregard for the truth is no different than the average Chicago gangbanger’s disregard for the traditional Western code of civilized conduct. She could, if she wished, claim that privileged white males are responsible for the decline of Detroit, for the declining sales of science fiction, even for the economic and cultural decline of the United States, but that would not make it true.  It would not even make it credible.  Anyone who is paying sufficient attention will understand who is genuinely responsible for these problems.

Unlike the white males she excoriates, there is no evidence to be found anywhere on the planet that a society of NK Jemisins is capable of building an advanced civilization, or even successfully maintaining one without significant external support from those white males.  If one considers that it took my English and German ancestors more than one thousand years to become fully civilized after their first contact with advanced Greco-Roman civilization, it should be patently obvious that it is illogical to imagine, let alone insist, that Africans have somehow managed to do the same in less than half the time at a greater geographic distance.  These things take time.

Being an educated, but ignorant half-savage, with little more understanding of what it took to build a new literature by “a bunch of beardy old middle-class middle-American guys” than an illiterate Igbotu tribesman has of how to build a jet engine, Jemisin clearly does not understand that her dishonest call for “reconciliation” and even more diversity within SF/F is tantamount to a call for its decline into irrelevance.

In case you want a bit more context, elsewhere in the same post he 1) mocked a man for taking his wife’s name, 2) suggested that one of his female critics was totally not as hot as his wife, the mysterious “Spacebunny,” and 3) reminded anyone who had forgotten that he had “three Billboard-charting club hits,” a fact that evidently makes him irresistible to women.

You see, Vox was briefly a member of a largely forgotten techno group called Psykosonik more than two decades ago. Well, “largely forgotten” by everyone but Vox, that is.

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brooked
6 years ago

@Rabukurafuto

I looked up “Throne of Bones” on Goodreads and one of the recommended “readers also enjoyed” books was “A Parent’s Guide to Preventing Homosexuality”. Hmmm.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
6 years ago

I looked up “Throne of Bones” on Goodreads and one of the recommended “readers also enjoyed” books was “A Parent’s Guide to Preventing Homosexuality”. Hmmm.

No surprise there. Beale’s fans tend to have the same believes as he does, although I’ve seen a few people on Christian fantasy sites who appeared to not know about Beale’s misogyny and racism.

On Amazon negative reviews for the book are attacked by Beale’s fans, one of accusing the reviewer of being a liberal who only gave the book a negative review because Beale is conservative. It looks like Beale even wrote a post claiming that negatives reviews are from people who didn’t read the book and only attack it for ideological reasons.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
6 years ago

@Rabukurafuto

I did look up that Throne Bone whatever it’s called and every site had it in hardback for $50 or more. He really doesn’t want certain demographics to read his shit, does he? But if you live near a small town with a large Republican and/or Christian community with a thrift store or used book store, I’m sure you’ll find whatever book of his you want.

BTW, looked up some of his books on Wikipedia, found this:

“Since 2005, Beale has been engaged in an online feud with science fiction writer John Scalzi. In February 2013, Scalzi attracted media attention with a pledge to pay $5 to various charities and nonprofit advocacy organizations every time Beale mentioned him; after others echoed this pledge, over $50,000 was pledged in under a week.”

And that’s hilarious.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
6 years ago

Oh, Amazon has the Kindle edition for $5. You can download a Kindle app, if you’re that dedicated to it.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
6 years ago

BTW, looked up some of his books on Wikipedia, found this:

“Since 2005, Beale has been engaged in an online feud with science fiction writer John Scalzi. In February 2013, Scalzi attracted media attention with a pledge to pay $5 to various charities and nonprofit advocacy organizations every time Beale mentioned him; after others echoed this pledge, over $50,000 was pledged in under a week.”

And that’s hilarious.

Indeed it is. Beale has quite an obsession with Scalzi. I really ought to see what Scalzi has written. I liked the posts he put to his own blog.

I did look up that Throne Bone whatever it’s called and every site had it in hardback for $50 or more. He really doesn’t want certain demographics to read his shit, does he? But if you live near a small town with a large Republican and/or Christian community with a thrift store or used book store, I’m sure you’ll find whatever book of his you want.

I don’t live in a place like that, but I can try next time I’m in Missouri.

If anyone wants to see Beale’s post on how negative reviews of his book are obviously hit pieces by people who didn’t read it, it’s here.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
6 years ago

That’s almost as good (or bad) as a Fred Clark discussion about why being motivated to do good from fear of a wrathful God wasn’t really all that wonderul, which spawned the term “enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus”…

I’ve seen that post… but unfortunately, the way Disqus’ multi-layer crappy Javascript makes my browser slow to a complete and utter crawl rather limits the amount of time I read the comments at Slactivist these days.

Scalzi attracted media attention with a pledge to pay $5 to various charities and nonprofit advocacy organizations every time Beale mentioned him

That’s the ‘Solving my Racist Sexist Homophobic Dipshit Problem’ post mentioned on the previous page. Vox Day takes himself extremely seriously… Scalzi enjoys self-deprecation as an art form, and as a result is far more creative with insults than Day could ever be.

yamamanama
yamamanama
6 years ago

There’s another post in which he posts a woman’s address because she wrote a negative review of his book. I think Blogger told him to remove that information.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
6 years ago

What a fragile ego Vox has. I’d pity him if he weren’t such a massive fucking shithole.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
6 years ago

There’s another post in which he posts a woman’s address because she wrote a negative review of his book. I think Blogger told him to remove that information.

Oh, gross. I really hope he had to remove the information.

Oh, Amazon has the Kindle edition for $5. You can download a Kindle app, if you’re that dedicated to it.

I hoped to avoid having to buy it, but if I do perhaps I will donate an equal amount to We Hunted the Mammoth.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
6 years ago

@Rabukurafuto

Maybe a pledge drive? Start a blog, have people donate to a charity or two of your choice for a review of each chapter reviewed?

That would actually be a really good blog idea, reading horrible books for charity. I bet it already exists.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
6 years ago

Maybe a pledge drive? Start a blog, have people donate to a charity or two of your choice for a review of each chapter reviewed?

That would actually be a really good blog idea, reading horrible books for charity. I bet it already exists.

Say, that is a good idea. It would certainly be worth the $5, My main concern though is having the wit to really make such a blog enjoyable; I don’t trust myself to come up with the funniest material, not enough to compare to some of the other blogs dedicated to mocking terrible books.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
6 years ago

@Rabukurafuto

I actually am kinda sorta funny? I mean, no one has never not laughed awkwardly at snark or jokes I’ve told and written.)

Maybe there can be a sort of multiple people reading the same books for charity to weigh in their views? (With some bit of profit?)

Paradoxical Intention
6 years ago

If people want to find some good used books on the cheap, I recommend thriftbooks.com.

You can get a first-time buyer discount, and I got some really nice hardcover books (I now own the entire Tantalize series in hardcover!), for about twenty bucks, which is what one of those books costs new. Their books are about five bucks a pop, and they’re all in near mint condition too.

If anyone would like a fantasy book recommendation, I’d offer Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children by Ransom Riggs. I just finished up the second book (which came out early last year), and the end made me roll my eyes a bit, but it’s a fun read.

The author takes vintage odd photos and writes a story around them. They’re scattered through the books where they’re needed. The story revolves around a boy named Jacob and his grandfather’s connection to a peculiar house where he stayed in WWII after he fled Poland to escape the Nazis.

It’s a bit clichéd at times, and does have a few tropes that I’m not too keen on, and the second book did make me roll my eyes a bit, but it’s a pretty good book and I still think it’s worth a read.

Paradoxical Intention
6 years ago

Speak of the devil: Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children has a TV Tropes page, so y’all can see if you’re okay with the tropes or not.

Divines bless TV Tropes.

guest
guest
6 years ago

I’ve been teaching for years, and I’m really good at the ‘no such thing as a stupid question/statement’ thing with my students–but the only time I ever actually lost it on a student was when one said that ‘Africa had no indigenous cultures’.

I was a Loncon member last year and thus got copies of most of the Hugo nominees, including “Opera Vita Aeterna” by Vox Day for best novelette. I didn’t read more than a couple of pages of it; if anyone wants an electronic copy email me at carolyn.observer @ talktalk.net.

matchstickuk
matchstickuk
6 years ago

Has the comment on Vox Day by a Moderator of the Guardian discussion board been posted on here already ?

Gadfly Pen (@Vicious_pen)

Vox Day isn’t racist
He’s SUPER RACIST

XS
XS
6 years ago

IIRC VD has stalked and made libelous accusations against one negative reviewer of Thone of Bones.

(for such a raging homophobic asshat he sure did pick an exquisitely homoerotic title for that book. Now I’m mad he’s taken it.)

Sarah
Sarah
6 years ago

Hey, just thought I’d raise a couple points. It’s my understanding that a lot of the people on the Sad Puppies slate (Jim Butcher, etc) are there only because they said they did not want Vox Day associated with it. Vox day in response created Rabid Puppies, (because he wants to be put down??) and has been running around saying he’s involved with Sad puppies when in fact he’s actually not this year. Unfortunately he was involved in their slate last year, which was a total cluster fuck.

Good news, Sad puppies is trying to get rid of the Vox problem, by nominating more people like Butcher, Lego movie, guardians of the galaxy etc.
Bad news…they still have some vestiges of people who last year defended Vox.

But at least Vox is /technically/ not supposed to be involved with them, having started his own stupid slate. (Apparently he felt Sad Puppies was “not conservative enough”.

The objections to the Puppies slates is not about the ideology, although that is a big thing that’s rubbing many people the wrong way. What everyone’s objecting to is the politicization of the Hugo awards. Several people have already said that they would have the same response to a slate and a campaign that got nothing but their personal favorites on the final ballot. The process for the Hugo awards are supposed to be about what people have read and honestly found to be the best things that they like, and because the field is so wide and so diverse with so many options available, everybody has their esoteric favorites and the votes in the nominating process are scattershot. This slate business has given a small group (I’ve seen estimates of 200 – 500) the opportunity to upset this process with an organized campaign to not only dominate the ballot with their own works, it pushed a lot of works that non-puppies loved off of the ballot. A better explanation and illustration for this can be seen here, in which the Puppies are compared to two political parties with mostly-compatible ideologies: http://djangowexler.com/2015/04/05/the-hugo-awards-game-theory-and-a-modest-proposal/

If this slate is allowed to continue without an affirmative response – to say that this is not okay – what’s going to happen is that there will be competing slates, because that’s the only way that an author or artist can hope to get their work on the ballot. And then it’s not the nominators and the voters who decide what is on the ballot – and therefore ostensibly the best that science fiction and fantasy has to offer – it’s the organizers of the slates. And theoretically, the people voting these slates don’t even have to read the works on the slates before voting on them. I, as a prospective nominator and voter for the Hugos, will have the choice to either nominate the slate or not bother voting, because nominating the works that *I* liked and that *I* thought were the best and most worthy would be a waste of my time.

StarStorm
6 years ago

“Educated, but ignorant.”

Vox Day is the new Time Cube.

Flying Mouse
Flying Mouse
6 years ago

@Rabukurafuto – I *do* live in a Republican/Christian Conservative area, and there’s an enormous used book store in the nearest city. I’d be glad to see if they have any Vox Day originals for cheap and then send one your way.

Bonelady
Bonelady
6 years ago

Day says that one of his brothers had a DNA test done, which if true, takes his contention out of the realm of myth. And I have no Native Amrican blood – second generation European on both sides. I do have both African and Asian, but both go back to the Middle Ages. Sicily and Eastern Europe (Huns, Mongols and their crew).

He also claims to have a certificate from the Bureau of Indian Affairs certifying his Native ancestry. I did not know they did that (if they do). I’ll have to ask one of my colleagues who worked with local tribes next time I see her (she’s retired).

yamamanama
yamamanama
6 years ago

Oh, gross. I really hope he had to remove the information.

He did. Either that, or it’s really cleverly hidden on his blog. So cleverly, in fact, that nobody can actually find it.

My experiences with Vox have taught me that Blogger’s idea of what is and isn’t a privacy violation is really strange.

yamamanama
yamamanama
6 years ago

That is, if Vox and his brother have the same mother.

opium4themasses
6 years ago

Ugh. I have Native American ancestry, but seeing so many asshats claim it to use as a free pass caused me to stop mentioning it. My mother’s side traces through Oklahoma. Where my great grandfather was “full-blood” but was originally replaced by another father on the birth certificate out of fear.

The thing is though. I don’t claim to be a part of Native American culture. I certainly wouldn’t want to co-opt a struggle I did not have.

Kootiepatra
6 years ago

Growing up, we were told that that my mom’s great-great grandmother was Shoshone (my family is otherwise mostly of German ancestry). As a kid, I thought this was kinda cool, but I never considered myself to have gained mythical anti-racist superpowers from this fact.

Then, when I was in my teens, my mom decided to take up genealogical research as a hobby. …And now we have no idea.

Half of the family says she was Shoshone. The other half says that’s ridiculous; she was Irish. Only one photo of her exists–she has black hair (which is done up on top of her head), and she’s smoking a pipe.

So we’re not sure if one half of the family was racist and said, “Hey, she’s smoking a pipe! Indians smoke pipes! Let’s say she’s from this specific local tribe!” or if the other half of the family said, “NoooOOOOO, we don’t have any nonwhite ancestors. She’s Irish!” And with some—er—interesting family dynamics happening in general, it’s not immediately obvious who’s more likely to have made something up.

It would be interesting to get tested, just to find out who (if anyone) is right.

mrex
mrex
6 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention “I do believe I read somewhere that ancient Egyptian statues and monuments were “restored” in different ways and marred by having their noses removed so that they bore no resemblance to African people.”

Yeah, that’s a pretty common conspiracy theory. It’s possible that it may of happened.

However, the vast majority of broken noses probably had to do with the Ancient Egyptian religion itself. The ancient Egyptians believed that the soul couldn’t inhabit a statue or mummy if you damaged its face. Does anyone modern even consider the Ancient Egyptians “white”?

@yama “It’s ethnically diverse because Portuguese are totally Hispanic, right?”

The Portuguese may not consider themselves Hispanic but many racist Anglo-Saxon whites do. I remember a big to do several years back when Emeril Lagasse did something racist and some of his white followers defended him by saying that he is a “minority” because of his Portuguese descent and therefore can’t be racist, or something. It was cringe-worthy all around.

Falconer
6 years ago

@Banana Jackie:

Uh, didn’t the Greco-Roman empire composed of a whole lot of Northern Africa? And many Emperors were, in fact, African as in, like, Ethiopian and shit? And that the Greco-Roman empire composed of many different races and ethnicities and shit?

What 1950s white-washed history book is he clinging to as it slowly crumbles in his hands?

I found a website talking about Caracalla, which claimed he was African. His Wikipedia article says his dad (Septimius Severus) was born in Libya to an Italian mother and a Punic father. Caracalla himself was Punic and Syrian, born in Lyons, France. Septimius Severus was born in Libya and died in Yorkshire. So birthplace has very little to do with genetics in Rome.

I haven’t found any other websites that talk about Roman emperors from Ethiopia (plenty about emperors of Ethiopia). I do think it’s safe to say that there were lots of Roman emperors from around the Mediterranean, like from Libya, Carthage (called Punics), Syria (which isn’t even Africa), etc.

A lot of Egyptian dynasties were from outside the classical borders of Egypt, but that was because they conquered it for its crown. And at least early on, there seems to be some recognition among the pharaohs that the people of Nubia were darker than the Egyptians.

(I still remember that PUA of color who came in here one time and claimed all bald-faced that Cleopatra was black. Hah!)

@Funkula:

I actually preferred a suggestion in the original thread on that name where someone suggested it should be Narcissistic Racist Sexist Homophobic Dipshit, because that could be sung to Supercalafragilisticexpialadotious. Was a bit sad that never caught on.

Oh, I love the emphasis that rhythm gives to the Dipshit part. Diiiip-shiit. I have never felt so sophisticated and immature at the same time.

maistrechat
6 years ago

Are there no private investigators (or wealthy people who can afford to hire PIs) among the ranks of Mammotheers?

There are Mammotheers who have done that kind of work but they have ethical objections to doing that kind of investigation.

Falconer
6 years ago

@mrex:

The ancient Egyptians believed that the soul couldn’t inhabit a statue or mummy if you damaged its face. Does anyone modern even consider the Ancient Egyptians “white”?

I thought it had to do with chiseling the name of a disgraced pharaoh off of their monuments, and breaking their statuary, so that they would not be remembered, like they did with Hatshepsut, of whom Wikipedia says:

Her cartouches and images were chiselled off some stone walls, leaving very obvious Hatshepsut-shaped gaps in the artwork.

Sarah Santos
6 years ago

There seems to be a lot of bigotry in general among Anti-Feminist types, especially on YouTube. Its not just misogyny, they also seem to have issues with racial minorities, LGBTs, etc… For example, AmazingAtheist and Davis Aurini are both hardcore, prominent anti-feminists and both have also openly referred to black people as n_ggers. A lot of anti-feminists will use thinly-veiled racist remarks but some of them are blatant about it. They don’t even try to hide their racism.

mrex
mrex
6 years ago

@Falcolner “I thought it had to do with chiseling the name of a disgraced pharaoh off of their monuments, and breaking their statuary, so that they would not be remembered, like they did with Hatshepsut, […]”

Yeah that was part of it, AFAIK the ancient Egyptians believed that the soul only lasted as long as a person was remembered. However, remember that the ancient Egyptians also believed that a person’s mummy or statue could LITERALLY come to life if entered by the deceased’s soul, and you could see how grave robbers and other enemies were pretty terrified of this. Knocking the nose off of a statue or mutilating its face was a pretty easy way to prevent the soul from recognizing the statue, or causing it to suffocate if it did enter.

Falconer
6 years ago

And there’s also the problems with working in stone. It’ll carry a lot of weight, but it tends to break off if you make long bits of it without support, cf. all those armless Greco-Roman marbles we have. I don’t know for sure, but I’d think the nose, being thinnest and most out-thrust, would survive less well than the rest of the head, when done in large scale and stone, and then weathered for four thousand years.

King Tut is closer to us than he is to the Pyramids. Random fact.

Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
Banana Jackie Cake, the Best Jackie and Cake! Yum! (^v^)
6 years ago

@Falconer

Thinking on that post, I think I was confusing Egypt and Roman empires, considering there were Ethiopian pharaohs; I also think I was confusing some time lines here and there so…yeah…

*scuttles off under rock*

I should say I know very little about Ancient Rome and Greece. I’m more into Ancient China, Egypt and Norse mythology.

Fun fact about the vikings, particularly those in the Scandinavian region: They took rape allegations very seriously, and those cases usually ended in death for the accused rapists. They also named a lot of people after bears, wolves, spears and helms.

THE MORE YOU KNOW.

kmcorby
6 years ago

David I was wondering if you were going to cover the Hugo Awards, um, upset, since it covers so much of the same “aggrieved white male” territory as your usual bailiwick.

kmcorby
6 years ago
Reply to  magnesium

Excellent rebuttal, Magnesium.

Goose!
Goose!
6 years ago

The thing that irritates me the most in this screed is the throwaway line about an African tribseman has no clue how to build a jet engine; I’m pretty sure Vox has no knowledge of them beyond knowing about them and whatever Wikipedia has on the subject.
A common trope among Sexist/racist white males is that since a white dude invented something in the past, that somehow means fuckers like Vox invented it by proxy. They also never take it to its logical extreme.

A gay man pioneered computers, and a Female Admiral pioneered modern programming. Does that mean all gay men and women are inherently superior with computers? A black man pioneered open heart surgery, does that mean black men are the best heart surgeons? I’m pretty sure Algebra has is roots in the middle east, so does that mean all western advancent is due to Islamic people?

mrex
mrex
6 years ago

Yeah many of the statues of any ancient civilization are missing noses due to erosion/being moved/falling over, but there’s plenty of evidence that many of the statues from ancient Egypt have been purposely mutilated. (Chisel marks will give it away. 🙂 ). There’s a bunch of conspiracy theorists that want to believe that it’s due to racism, but it’s not. The Ancient Egyptians did it themselves because they didn’t want the deceased punishing them or otherwise interfering with life on earth.

The conspiracy theory sounds reasonable, but it’s probably mostly or entirely false. And since when does “black” always equal “wide nose” anyway?

Mad Adam
Mad Adam
6 years ago

Didn’t the Romans kind of destroy civilisation wherever they found it (if it looked slightly different to their own)?
Like the marauding Roman legions, Vox Day and his ilk are the real barbarians, trying to destroy anything different to what he is comfortable with, trying to conquer all.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

@Falconer

“King Tut is closer to us than he is to the Pyramids. Random fact.”

I love stuff like that. I’ll trade it for:

We are closer in time to T-Rex than T-Rex was to Stegosaurus

mrex
mrex
6 years ago

Note: I tend to believe that Ancient Egyptians were straight up black racially, but the idea that they therefore must have had broad noses puzzling. Especially since a lot of surviving ancient Egyptian artwork shows narrow noses, the wide variation of nose size/shape in Africans, and that there’s some thought that narrow noses are advantageous for living in deserts.

lith
lith
6 years ago

1) mocked a man for taking his wife’s name

I laughed loudly at this, as I’ll be doing so in a few months. Vox Day’s displeasure is a tiny bonus.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
6 years ago

@Rabukurafuto – I *do* live in a Republican/Christian Conservative area, and there’s an enormous used book store in the nearest city. I’d be glad to see if they have any Vox Day originals for cheap and then send one your way.

That would be very nice. Thank you for the offer.

I actually am kinda sorta funny? I mean, no one has never not laughed awkwardly at snark or jokes I’ve told and written.)

Maybe there can be a sort of multiple people reading the same books for charity to weigh in their views? (With some bit of profit?)

Another interesting idea! It would make covering a book with 800+ pages a little easier.

M.
M.
6 years ago

I really don’t think there’s only one answer to the question of what race the Egyptians were. Remember, they were around for 3000 years and they traded with many other civilisations. They probably would have been more black at some points in time, more Middle Eastern at other points, and more Mediterranean at the end of it all after the Macedonian conquest.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Here’s the real reason noses of antiquity are missing:
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Falconer
6 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw:

We are closer in time to T-Rex than T-Rex was to Stegosaurus

Well then why was there one of each in the box of dinosaurs my babies got, heeenhh?!

Gary Larson termed the Stegosaurus’ tail spikes a “thagomizer” in one of his Far Side cartoons, and some dinosaurologists still use the term informally.

http://www.thefossilforum.com/uploads/monthly_11_2012/post-6208-0-26891200-1352397818.jpg

Falconer
6 years ago

Also, apparently, Bill Watterson coined the phrase “the Horrendous Space Kablooie” because he was writing a strip in which Calvin thought “the Big Bang” too bland, and Watterson’s phrase was picked up by the academic world.

psychpunk
6 years ago

Y’all race was invented by white people so whites can say shit like “there is no evidence to be found anywhere on the planet that a society of NK Jemisins is capable of building an advanced civilization.” White is whatever white people need it to be.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

@ Falconer

As a Yorkshireman (with all the curmudgeoness that entails) I’m a big fan of Fred Hoyle. You may recall he came up with the phrase “Big Bang” as a pejorative term for a theory he didn’t subscribe to.

In fact I’m so Yorkshire I refer to the Big Bang as “the modified steady state theory” just on principle.

Mind you, I also call that film “Mostly Cretaceous Park”.

Falconer
6 years ago

@psychpunk: Well, that’s somewhat true, but whites didn’t come up with “Fuck them over there, they’re not us, let’s kill them and take their land.”