Over on men’s rights hate site A Voice for Men, Attila Vinczer has found the true villain in the case of Walter Scott, the black man shot in the back after he ran from a white cop: Don’t blame the cop for shooting and killing a man who was no danger to him whatsoever; blame the ex-wife who simply wanted Scott to pay the child support he owed:
Another AVFM commenter seconded Vinczer’s, er, interpretation of events.
As did someone called TLC:
Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, the regulars, to their credit, were a bit more reluctant to see this as a Men’s Rights issue rather than a “white cop shooting black man despite being in no danger at all” issue. Well, some of them were, in any case. The others posted comments like this:
Dungone decided to spread the blame to evil feminists eager to cash in on sweet, sweet child support payments.
InBaggingArea offered the most succinct explanation:
It’s true that Scott owed child support. He had four children with two ex-wives and apparently owed thousands of dollars in child support for his two younger children; his family says this is the likely reason he ran, though we can’t be sure. Despite being behind on his payments, he was reportedly on good terms with his children, and saw them regularly.
Scott’s funeral was held today.
H/T — r/againstmensrights
Reading the commentary on here, it almost sounds like feminists care more about men’s lives than MRA’s do! Shocking. s/
Is there anything they can’t blame on women?
I would say “There has to be!”, but my mind isn’t fit enough to be doing all the stretching and mental backflips that theirs must do on a regular basis.
My mind’s a bit of a couch potato, preferring to comfortably cuddle with the intricacies of anime plotlines and Skyrim politics rather than make tenuous connections with things that are merely coincidental.
I can’t recall them blaming any natural disasters on women, but I have no doubt my memory is very fallible.
Natural disasters are caused by gay marriage; thought everyone knew that. Lesbians obviously have to take their share of the blame but some of it is down to men. (Not straight men though; nothing’s our fault)
“I can’t recall them blaming any natural disasters on women, but I have no doubt my memory is very fallible.”
No but I’m sure they lament with longing the good ole days when hurricanes were named after women.
Saturday
No … It would have been a cop shooting dead an unarmed person who was running away. A cop who had numerous prior suspicious dealings with black people. A cop who did not have to shoot someone dead over a broken taillight.
Exactly what it is now.
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Shit, wrong thread. : P
But, this is good for people who don’t want to go into the other thread, I suppose. I’ll go post it there too.
Of course not racism, but misandry. Police officer obvious a mangina in thrall to the Feminist Conspiracy.
Hey MRA’s my (white) father paid child support ONCE in EIGHT years. My mother did NOTHING about this, and did not tell me until I was an adult. Never said a word against him – must have been tempting though…
@Ellesar: My (white, neo-nazi) father didn’t pay child support for me at all. My mom had to drag him to court, get a DNA test to prove that I was his, and still nothing.
@Saturday
Sat convinced me, no controversy to see here. Move along.
A black man shot by police offer, pfft.
That police officer charged with murder only because there was a video of the shooting, who cares.
Black women being shot by police isn’t an issue, ignore articles like the one below.
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/24/black_women_are_killed_by_police_too_partner/
The issue of Debtors Prisons are best handled by the MRAs blaming women via their keyboard activism, screw groups like the ACLU, particularly since they cover how this issue effects women, children and men.
https://www.aclu.org/feature/ending-modern-day-debtors-prisons?redirect=ending-modern-day-debtors-prisons
Wow. In a strange way I think the MRAs might have accidentally stumbled upon a real men’s rights issue. This is a classic case of unintended consequences creep. Punishing men who fall behind on child support became necessary when so many women were left holding the baby with zero support from the fathers who could basically walk away. Guys who worked under the table or didn’t inform agencies when they switched employment so their wages couldn’t be garnished. Self-employed guys who basically rigged the accounting so they could avoid paying much of anything (there’s a prominent UK politician who did this for years, well…until he became an MP and thus couldn’t avoid the system). But at the same time there’s guys like Walter Scott who may (or may not) have been guilty of this behaviour at some point, temporarily, but who seemed to really want to make things right but couldn’t get out from under it. The answer wasn’t throwing him in jail, but the answer also wasn’t leaving his ex-wife to fend for herself financially in looking after these dependent children.
I don’t know what the right answer is here. I know the MRAs won’t have it. I also know this presumptive 50:50 custody and nobody pays child support isn’t the answer either.
A Voice For men is a hate site? Okay. What does that make Jezebel?
LOL omg you totes got us there. So original. Much unique.
Oranges are a citrus fruit? Okay. What does that make basketball jerseys?
the 4th survivor sez:
Could you expand on your *ahem* reasoning here? What is the similarity between AVFM and Jezebel that necessitates Jezebel being a hate site if AVFM is one? Do tell. I’m all ears. Really.
Also it’s hilarious how MRAssholes always seem to think Jezebel is the epicenter of online feminist thought. Where does that idea even come from?
Ho hum, another boring, unoriginal troll from AVFMorons.
Shut up, Woody.
Jezebel is an online women’s magazine with a left/feminist slant. There. Now we can all move on with our lives.
Your belief that this is somehow standard procedure regardless of race is both pathetic and dangerous in the level of ignorance displayed.
I have a desire to quote Dark Helmet, here:
Aw, bless that 4th survivor. The AVFM webpage has been identified as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Centre, which makes Jezebel … one which has not.
Lol.
Oh calamity WordPress, stop eating my name.
And what qualifications does the Southern Poverty Law Center have to decide what is a hate site and what isn’t? Just curious.
@the 4th survivor:
Their long history of fighting bigotry? If you’re looking for a degree in hate-site-ology, you aren’t going to find one. Their credentials come from having historically been on the right side of history, and from generally correctly identifying hate groups in other areas.
They are by no means the be-all-end-all of hate group identification, so if you really don’t like the idea that AVFM is on the list, feel free to be indignant. The SPLC is simply an organization that has been demonstrably trustworthy in their assessments.