Over on Vox Popoli, everyone’s favorite far-right fantasy author Vox Day (Theodore Beale) is pig-biting mad that pizza parlors in Indiana won’t be allowed to refuse service to gay people. And so he’s doing his best to rally the troops for a real-world Culture War Deathmatch, urging Christians — or at least the right kind of Christians — to “stop their cowardly cowering before the world” and start acting like “the apostles and martyrs and crusaders and inquisitors who preceded them.”
Oh, and like the dudes who’ve been having a giant public temper tantrum about video games and evil SJWs with dyed hair for the past 7 months:
It’s time for the church leaders and the heads of Christian families to start learning from #GamerGate, to start learning from Sad Puppies, and start leading.
Sad Puppies, by the way, is a #GamerGatish coalition of anti-SJW warriors in the science fiction community who are fighting to save the world by stuffing the Hugo Awards ballot box.
Start banding together and stop accommodating the secular world in any way. Don’t hire those who hate you. Don’t buy from those who wish to destroy you. Don’t work with those who denigrate your faith, your traditions, your morals, and your God. Don’t tolerate or respect what passes for their morals and values.
Including tolerance itself.
Religious liberty in America is dead. Well and good. That was a fatal mistake by the other side, because now that they don’t respect our religious liberty, we have no reason or responsibility to respect theirs. Now it’s just a raw power struggle and we have the numbers, we have the indomitable will of the martyrs, and we have the certain knowledge of God on our side.
Embrace your fanaticism! God hates Depression Quest and John Scalzi — He told me so — and so should you!
I mean, you’re not in league with — could it be? —SATAN?
They have nothing but the carnal desires to which they are enslaved and the Prince of this fallen world, who has already been defeated by our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Apparently this defeated Prince still needs some more defeating.
We are not given a spirit of fear. We are the sons and daughters of the Crusades and of the Inquisitions, institutions so terrible that they strike terror in human hearts nearly one thousand years later.
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise…surprise and fear…fear and surprise…. Our two weapons are fear and surprise…and computer games about orcs and trolls that have no ladies in them. Our three weapons …
We are the heirs of Christendom. They cannot defeat us and they cannot defeat our Lord. Augustus and the pagan emperors of Rome failed. The Ottoman emperors failed. The French Revolutionaries failed. The Communist killers of Spain, the Soviet Union, and China failed. The post-Christian seculars of the latter-day USA will fail too.
Yeah, keep us posted on how that goes, Ted.
Naturally, Mr. Beale’s thoughtful followers have some thoughtful thoughts on it all. Mr.MantraMan suggests shunning the “politicals.”
The SJWs are womanish, this is a tantrum by infantilized white so called adults, we cant send the little bitches to their rooms but we can shun them with barely disguised malice.
As for demographics, the colored folk if you will tolerate them they do not love the SJW, at all.
W.LindsayWheeler suggests that what we really need is a, well, return of kings.
The elite WASPs have bought into Masonry and Cultural Marxism, our media is owned by Jews who ensure Liberals as journalists and editors. You’ve lost control of the direction of the society.
We have to return to Throne And Altar that is the ONLY antidote to Liberalism, not more ideologies.
Vic, meanwhile, is fighting the evil secular Devil-worshippers by … uploading Miley Cyrus songs to torrent sites. No, really.
I have already started soft warfare myself, sharing all miley cyrus, elton john, and any other of these blowhards trashy songs I happen to have, uploading on torrent sites …. Two can play these hit `em in the pocketbook games … .
Al Cibiades thinks we should restrict the vote to married couples. And by married couples he means married men:
I propose a familial suffrage amendment while we have the numbers. One woman and one man = one vote. If single people are interested in “change” let them have a stake in how it directly affects the future. More or less I believe it would return some of the balance before women’s suffrage unleashed these ills upon us.
Tom believes that the children are our future.
Ya’ll need to have more Christian children. My homeschooled Christian horde of 7 need spouses who also believe in homeschooling and large families so they can each have their own horde of little homeschooled Christians. If each of them manage just 5 kids each, that’s 35 Christian grandkids. …
By the way, my eldest, a 12 year old, is the only one who even knows that homosexuals exist. That is really only because it came up in a couple sermons at church and she asked questions.
At this point I stopped reading the comments.
“The elite WASPs have bought into Masonry and Cultural Marxism, our media is owned by Jews who ensure Liberals as journalists and editors. You’ve lost control of the direction of the society.”
Conspiracy Theory BINGO!
It’d be nice if there was a way to get Vox Day to be quiet for a while [somewhat harsh language removed by DF]
[Yes, that’s harsh. I think it’s just that today was actually mostly a good day and this just feels like a buzzkill. Maybe a new Open Thread is in order?]
“They cannot defeat us and they cannot defeat our Lord. Augustus and the pagan emperors of Rome failed.”
Funny, I’ve read the Bible, and I’ve read a lot about Roman history, and I don’t remember anything in either that talks about Augustus trying and failing to defeat Teenage Jesus, which you’d think would have been mentioned. Augustus, of course, died in 14 AD…
“Day” really does have a very… special… grasp of facts, doesn’t he?
Fuck. It’s always a little terrifying to remember that these sorts of people still exist.
You are braver than I am, Dave. I never read the comments if I can help it. They are incredibly toxic. I’ve been reading Vox Popoli for 3 years now – it is very helpful in providing bad examples for my Human Diversity class. But I learned early on not to read the comments. It’s as though his commenters feel that they have to “outvox” Vox. Ick.
I can only think of one reason why he’d capitalize “Prince”.
I knew Prince was behind this somehow. It’s call coming together, now. We’re through the looking glass, here, people.
When the Sad Puppies put Vox on their lists, they’re saying “this man is a standard bearer for conservative writers”. That is the single most offensive thing you could say about conservative sci-fi writers and you’re supposed to be advocating for them!
‘By the way, my eldest, a 12 year old, is the only one who even knows that homosexuals exist. That is really only because it came up in a couple sermons at church and she asked questions.’
Oh dear, a girl asking questions? They’d better nip that in the bud. It’s pesky things like girls asking questions that leads to girls not wanting to get married in their teens and pop out five home schooled babies.
I’ll give this to the uber-conservative paternalist Inquisition-Christian types: At least they’re consistent.
Noooooo hemming and hawing like MGTOWs or spine-breaking internal contradictions like PUAs.
Consistent.
Consistently wrong and awful, mind you, but consistent.
*Sigh* – to hate liberty and freedom for people who disagree with you, to the extent you’d wamt to return the world to the dark ages.
These people need to be protected from themselves.
And re: the Quiverfull Movement: Good luck with that, buddy.
I’ve seen it backfire somethin’ fierce.
Just to go with a bit of legal trivia. It was the Spanish Inquisition that first introduced the concept of “the presumption of innocence” into Western jurisprudence.
Nequam, that *was* a bit … harsh. But you’re right, it’s definitely time to open an open thread, and so I did.
– Alan Robertshaw
I doubt it’s any positive side effects of this horrible institution Vox has hot dreams about, more likely it’s the persecution of wrong-thinkers and uppity women that has him drooling.
What a load of tripe. Honestly, I hope these guys do withdraw from secular society. I suggest they all retire to some barely populated site in the middle of the plains, and we construct a bunch of walls around them. A sort of inverted attack on Titan, if you will.
Hell, the Dragon Age Inquisition’s been better than anything this net’s coming up with.
From the much less… bad… part of the article, that Vox simply quotes/references:
This is something I actually agree with, but it is not a new thing – it has been like this for fair amount of time. I think it’s just something we just now are starting to realize. There can be no true common culture, no real cooperation, between let’s say – traditional patriarchal-minded christians and those who do not agree that women should be subjugated, or who think that consenting adults should be able to sex or marry whomever they damn well please.
There is no chance of real cooperation, of any real trust, between two. The common ground is so vanishingly small they might as well be different species, their visions for how things should be are not only incompatible – they are mutually exclusive.
I love how that one commenter actually thinks most married couples have any desire to take voting rights away from single people.
My friend Matthew actually declined his nomination on the Sad Puppies (and the Rabid Puppies) slate, for a host of reasons.
Long time reader, first time to comment. I admit to being some where close to that sort of Christian before I deconverted. I was conservative growing up but I just didn’t embrace all the crazy. I thought it was unfair but at least I figured it was consistent. I can’t imagine ever being *that* (self)hateful again. Honestly all this vile mess comes from a place of fear.
I met Jesus at a clothing optional pagan campground in upstate New York in 2005. Cool guy. Mary Magdalene was also nice.
I feel confident that He would not be on board with this at all.
You know these people don’t have good intentions in mind when they call a group of children a “horde”. There’s nothing good that’s ever been called a “horde”.
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(For the Horde! For Sylvanus!)
It’s genuinely disturbing that they seem to be talking about Liberalism in the sense of Kant and Mill, human rights and democracy, rather than liberalism as a weird code word for the American left. Or maybe they just don’t understand the difference? Regardless, they want to move us back to… I don’t know, the 1500s? Before the enlightenment, certainly.
They are against equality, autonomy, dignity, and reason. No, really, seriously, that’s what they’re fighting against. It took me a while after reading this blog to fully understand that there were people who believed this.
Dear Jesus, save me from your so-called followers. AND their idiotic idea of what democracy should look like.
Amen.
“You know these people don’t have good intentions in mind when they call a group of children a ‘horde.’ There’s nothing good that’s ever been called a ‘horde.’”
Well, it’s better than “hoard,” at least. (I think.)