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Do Misogynists Dream of Electric Sex Ladies?

Truly offal.
Truly offal.

Do Misogynists Dream of Electric Sex Ladies? Well, yes. Yes, they do. This terrible, terrible comic provides yet more evidence of this, as if we needed any. Click on it for a larger version.

I’ve lightly censored the comic, but yes, the covered-up letters in “bioc**t” are indeed the letters you think they are.

H/T — r/thebluepill. I’m not sure where the original cartoon is from.

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lith
lith
6 years ago

@sunnysombrera:

-Reliable sources (because AVFM and YouTube videos don’t count)

And if anyone else tries to use it as proof that someone on AVFM is being a dick it turns out it was satire all along so it’s not proof anyway.

sunnysombrera
6 years ago

I don’t want no MGTOW
A MGTOW is a man that can’t get no love from me
Hanging out in cheap cafés where he refuses to pay
Trying to whine at me.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

The irony is the sexbot later left him for a taller robot.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

@ lith

Isn’t there some concept of “Schrodinger’s Arsehole”? That is to say, someone for whom whether a statement is serious or a joke depends on the observer’s reaction.

estraven
estraven
6 years ago

@Alan Robertshaw, I read “Herland” in a speculative fiction class in grad school. The author, for those who didn’t follow the link, is Charlotte Perkins Gilman, who’s best known for “The Yellow Wallpaper.” I don’t care much for utopias in SF but the book was interesting in some ways, especially in terms of gender roles.

markb
markb
6 years ago

It’s based on the idea that women who reject men take an active pleasure in hurting their feelings. When they are no longer objects of desire (having been replaced), it’s not enough that they can still attract alpha males, they also have an overriding need to make non-alpha males miserable by withholding their sexual favors. The “feminist” in this “comic” is not upset because she suddenly wants to sleep with the weeaboo robot dude, she is upset because she can no longer make him miserable. (Note to self: add “weeaboo” to MRA / PUA / MGTOW Bingo card.)

lith
lith
6 years ago

@sunnysombrera:

I also don’t think they know what propaganda and gynocracy means too.

I just looked it up.
The way they use it I’d assumed it was more like ‘gynocentric’ or ‘woman focused’.
But “government by women” – I guess you could reasonably claim this. If you ignore the extreme disparity in numbers of men vs women in government.
Apparently I’m feeling a bit cross today, this is annoying me far more than it usually would.

mcjuliek
mcjuliek
6 years ago

As a child I was really creeped out by The Stepford Wives (read in Readers’ Digest Condensed version!) so of course the idea of woman-replacement robots always makes me think of that.

But if you really had the technology to build such a sophisticated housekeeping-bot, why not just have it be a housekeeper? In Stepford Wives, part of the whole thing seems to be fulfilling the male fantasy not only that all their needs are catered to all the time, but also to keep up the illusion that it’s a real human woman choosing to do it.

Validation-bot is right.

lith
lith
6 years ago

@proxieme:

Re: Women aren’t unicorns.

Indeed, my mother is nearing retirement and has been playing WoW for years. Recently she picked up Skyrim and has put in way more time already than I ever put in. She has nearly every gold star on Mario Kart and I’ve managed maybe half. She is not your typical ‘gamer’ but she does like playing games, even ones that weren’t ‘designed for women’. And to top it all off she’s not even a feminist on paper, quite ‘traditional’.
Interesting article, the most interesting thing for me is how readily the guy took completely the wrong point from the tweets.
If he thinks women are aliens he needs to sit down and talk with them more.

David N-T
David N-T
6 years ago

That is so sad. Next, these losers will depict masturbation with a sock puppet as a revolutionary act.

lith
lith
6 years ago

@sunnysombrera:

Elam in particular is quick to label any physical slight as “domestic violence”, but only if it’s against the man.

Interesting point – I’ve seen lots of examples of playing up any violence by women against men as intolerable, but even more serious violence by men against women as acceptable or worse.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

“I’ve seen lots of examples of playing up any violence by women against men as intolerable, but even more serious violence by men against women as acceptable or worse.”

That’s one thing (well, of many) that I don’t understand about the MRA types. Presumably they’re into ‘traditional’ gender roles. Well one of the areas where I fall down as a pro-feminist is that I have that old school belief that hurting a woman is *never* acceptable and completely beyond the pale, whereas I must confess I don’t see a major problem with F-M violence.

I’d have thought the MRA would have gone along with this, if only because of the “women are the weaker sex” stereotype (which I don’t share btw, there are various reasons for my stance on the difference between M-F and F-M violence)

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
6 years ago

The weirdest MRA talking point about female-on-male physical abuse was when they claimed a woman yelling at or scratching a man while she was giving birth was misandrous abuse.

sunnysombrera
6 years ago

@lith
Elam has said many shocking things over the years but for me the most bone-chilling was when he said that a boyfriend sucker punching his girlfriend in the head (after aggressively backing her into a corner) was “consequences” for her trying to lightly push him away, an action Elam described as “raging bull”. I feel sick thinking it now. That’s his attitude towards domestic violence.

sunnysombrera
6 years ago

Does it show how much harboured aggression MRAs have towards women, that they believe a single physical slight against them means it’s open season for them to hurt their partner any way they like? It hasn’t occurred to them that OTT retaliation is a crime (I forget the legal term, help Alan) and they can’t get away with it by saying ‘but she slapped my upper arm! She’s the initiator!’

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

@ SunnyS

“A person may defend themselves but must use only such force as is reasonable in the circumstances”, usually shortened to “reasonable force”.

sunnysombrera
6 years ago

@Alan

Right. So punching your gf in the head after she brushes your chest trying to get you to back off is not reasonable force. Yet that’s the kind of violence MRAs defend.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

I’m not sure if this link will work (because it’s to a closed FB group) but these are some lecture notes about the use of force, not just the law but also how to deal with the legal process in case anyone is interested…..

https://www.facebook.com/groups/180913341957892/652473821468506/

alaisvex
alaisvex
6 years ago

Well, yeah. Elam doesn’t even really seem to believe that women can actually physically hurt men. That’s why all of his examples about women committing violence against men involve tiny women doing minor things. He sees violence against men on the part of women as a sign of disrespect, not as a threat. That’s why he fantasizes about beating small women for a slap or for trying to shove a man who’s backed them into the corner away.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

Not even slightly.

There’s really a three part test in the law. The force must be:

1. Reasonable
2. Proportionate
3. Necessary

It’s true that ‘reasonable’ is not synonymous with ‘minimal’ but even if the force would otherwise be justified (which obviously in your scenario it wouldn’t be anyway), if the purpose is retaliation or punishment rather than defence it’s not reasonable.

Zolnier
Zolnier
6 years ago

The sad thing is eventually all the MRAs will realise their sexbots can’t give them children to impart their stupid ideology on.

Christopher Winter
Christopher Winter
6 years ago

Tales of robot lovers have a long history; they go back at least to 1938, with Lester Del Rey’s Helen O’Loy.

I hasten to add that this story is not of the same ilk as the dumb cartoon.

sunnysombrera
6 years ago

@Alan
Exactly. Remember when Pauly wrote that short story where a (ex?) husband breaks the nose of his cheating wife? Again, this is the kind of shit MRAs justify or even encourage. That’s what I personally find most frightening about them. They are the abusers lobby without a doubt.

Also that scenario I mentioned was unfortunately a real one. It was in a YouTube video a while back. The worst thing is that their kids were watching as he hit her. 🙁

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

Ugh!

I’m pretty desensitised but even I would be repulsed by that sort of story; glad I didn’t see it. The Youtube video sounds horrific too. I hope it was used in evidence?

One thing I’m involved in is “risk analysis”. It would be interesting to run the MRA material through one of the relevant tools like MOSAIC. It’s always dangerous to assume, but at the risk of doing on-line diagnoses, this stuff seems to be going beyond rhetoric. It’s real red flag territory.

because reasons
because reasons
6 years ago

MGTOW: Rawr!
Male Friend: Woah, you mad, bro?
MGTOW: My life is lame and no feeemales will give me the pussy I’m entitled to.
MF: I thought you decided to forget those slutty sluts and go your own way.
MGTOW: I did.
MF: Soooo….you could totally find some other way to get off- watch porn and ya know, use your hand like I do.
MGTOW: I’m gonna build a sexbot, that’ll show those bioc*nts!
MF: bio-wats? Build a sexbot if you want, dude, but if you’re going your own way and all, who cares what gurls think? *light bulb appears*
MGTOW: Not me! I just wanna show them that I don’t need their holes anymore and see how bad they freak out.
MF: Sure, dude. *starts thinking that MGTOW’s are full of shit, walks away*
MGTOW: Hey, where are you going? ARGH! I’m so oppressed! No one will listen to me. I know! I’ll go online and tell those dumb bitches what I think. Aaaand then I’ll build my sexbot…definitely.

^Just some conversation I imagined a MGTOW having. I agree with those of you who said it’s not about sex. Even with sexbots (which already exist) these guys would still rage-vent their boo-boo’s to women because what they really want is to feel powerful and important. And the specific power they crave is that over a scared, vulnerable woman. The butthurt and entitlement will never go away, it seems. 🙁

Twisted Inspiration
6 years ago

MGTOW = Men whining around, “threaten” to go away and desperately hope for attention by the women they hate (=all of them)

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
6 years ago

I cannot imagine why these guys are still single.

suffrajitsu
suffrajitsu
6 years ago

I know people who aren’t blatantly misogynist and still misconstrue “women don’t need a man” as “men are useless”. To me, that’s a pretty glaring sign of internalized sexism.

Also, “need men” =/= “want men”. Plenty of women and feminists want men and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. It’s perceived dependency that’s problematic in the culture.

because reasons
because reasons
6 years ago

@suffrajitsu
Totally. Even just getting angry at any woman who says she doesn’t need a man, or doesn’t feel the need to have a bf or whatever the case is a sign that a lot of men, whether consciously or not, believe a single, strong, independent woman is “weird” at best and “wrong” at worst. Because of course women naturally NEED a man! It’s in our DNA!

seraph4377
6 years ago

I can’t read about sexbots without thinking of that Buffy episode where Warren builds one and then deserts her, and she goes around asking people if they know where Warren is. It’s sad because she’s been programmed to “love” him and has feelings and everything.

There’s a detail in that episode that, from the perspective of the following season, was a hint as to just how hideously misogynistic Warren really was: Buffy and Warren are wandering around, and Warren is calling for April. Buffy asks if April is voice-activated, which would make perfect sense – program your robot to obey your commands. But Warren answers no. If April hears his voice and doesn’t respond, she suffers feedback.

In other words, he made it possible for April to disobey…but made sure she was punished with pain.

Warren Mears. An MRA to the core.

ikanreed
ikanreed
6 years ago

I cannot imagine why these guys are still single.

They also don’t have their precious sexbots, because their attitudes are ones of never working for anything. Complete entitlement. Creating revenge fantasies against those that deny them is easy. Putting effort towards things they want is hard.

Binjabreel
6 years ago

I honestly hope to god I live to see a bunch of newly sentient sexbots petitioning the government for divorce from these douchebags.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Spindrift
I don’t know what “rocky” will look like all I know is that there is gonna to be a male sex bot. I really hope he’ll look like Rocky form the movie too.

I agree with everyone that the Misognists just want robots to “punish” us for not dating them. They see us as “its”, they say that we’re gonna to be obsolete and I’m not kidding one of them said that female sex toys were invented for women who can’t laid so by that logic any man who has sex toys including sex robots means that they can’t get laid. Silly misogynist.

I have no problem with men that have sex toys including robots but when they obsess over them and use them to gloat how they “don’t need no woman”comment image

Then I’m just gonna to laugh because the funny part is that they really do need women they wouldn’t be so obsessed with us if they didn’t and they’re gonna to be obsolete soon because sex bots can’t have children and we’re gonna to be over here having great lives with men who actually see us as people and have loving relationships with them.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

‘From’ not ‘form’

Binjabreel
That would be hilarious

lhsimm
lhsimm
6 years ago

Wait… in the movie, the dude learns that no android can replace a flesh and blood woman. We are talking about Cherry 2000, right? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092746/ No?

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Lhsimm
Yeah you’re right

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Binjabreel,
Would the robots get alimony? That would be just beautiful.

Dvärghundspossen
6 years ago

Re: Real Humans – iiiinteresting, we’ve been learning Swedish, this might be something to bear in mind for when we can vaguely follow conversation… assuming it’s in Swedish, of course.

The show is in Swedish, but apparently it’s been shown in various other countries as well, so it should be possible to find it subtitled I think? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180271/?ref_=nv_sr_1 On the imdb page, there are lots of reviews from Australia.

Lordcrowstaff
Lordcrowstaff
6 years ago

There is nothing about this comic OR the people behind this that is NOT creepy.

Also, even if I was a total MRA, you built a sexbot and then make it look like THAT? I appreciate the Metropolis shout-out as much as the next man, but COME ON.

Lisa C (@hppykittystudio)

Okay-so using the logic of that comic strip, why not create a robot man, or tote around one of these guys so wonderfully illustrated by College Humor:

TomBcat
TomBcat
6 years ago

I just wanted to say that I finally got it.
Men Griping Tediously Over Women

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Lisa C
That’s funny. I’m all up for robot men.

laughnwitch
laughnwitch
6 years ago

Doll Husband

because reasons
because reasons
6 years ago

Re: male sexbots
My mom calls vibrators BOB- battery operated boyfriend.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Quiz time! Which of these scenarios occurs in reality, and which of these occurs only inside the heads of MGTOWs?

1.
Woman: “I don’t need men.”
Man: *welds perfectly submissive sexbot in four seconds out of empty tuna cans, assumes smug expression*

2.
Man: “I don’t need women.”
Woman: RAWWRRRRRR! RAGEFROTH! HOW DARE YOU!

3.
Man: “I don’t need women.”
Woman: “That’s fine. Happy trails!”

4.
Woman: “I don’t need men.”
Man: RAWWRRRRRR! RAGEFROTH! HOW DARE YOU!

(Answers: 1 – not real 2 – not real 3 – real 4 – real)

Swales
Swales
6 years ago

@polymath father: XD Pretty sure I’ve read that Iron Man fanfiction somewhere.

For folks looking for sexy feminist comics about sexbots, Jess Fink writes one called Chester 5000 (might be off on the number, but it’s something like that). It’s pretty good!

Spindrift
Spindrift
6 years ago

@lhsimm “Wait… in the movie, the dude learns that no android can replace a flesh and blood woman. We are talking about Cherry 2000, right? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092746/ No?”

Nice to see I’m not the only one who’s seen that movie.

because reasons
because reasons
6 years ago
Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

http://www.1000misspenthours.com/posters/postersh-m/marsneedswomen.jpg

Presumably because that’s where us men are from. At least. that’s what I read* in a book.

[* By which I mean ‘Saw the cover of’]

Olive O'Sudden
Olive O'Sudden
6 years ago

We already have female-simulacra that men can stick their penises into, and even if there were fancier sex-and-validation-bots around, MGTOW would still refuse to GTOW and instead insist on harassing and whining about how human women have ruined the world and are the cause of the collapse of human civilization and won’t dispense blow-jobs like they’re supposed to.