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A Voice for Menners attack one woman for her topless pics, then defend another woman for HER topless pics

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The other day, you may recall, I wrote about a little slut-shaming campaign that a number of A Voice for Men staffers, including top banana Paul Elam, were waging against a former AVFMer who’s turned into a critic of the site. Her crime? She had put some topless photos of herself online — or, to be more precise, had sent them to someone who’d passed them along to others.

The horror.

Now Elam and his AVFM buddies have launched a campaign to frame feminists for allegedly getting topless photos of the pseudonymous AVFM “social media director” Janet Bloomfield taken down on Facebook.

Yep. That’s right. They’re not mad at feminists for putting up topless photos of Bloomfield. They’re accusing feminists of getting Facebook to remove them.

This bizarre little faux controversy started yesterday when Bloomfield posted a topless photo of herself on Facebook. Other AVFMers tweeted a link to her post on Facebook, directing some of their Tweets at a number of their least favorite online feminists, including Anita Sarkeesian, Amanda Marcotte, and me.

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At the time, I was puzzled as to why Jack Barnes, a particularly rabid AVFMer who has me blocked on Twitter, felt it necessary to send me a link to a topless photo of his colleague. I figured the two of them were up to something, but I couldn’t figure out what.

Well, it now appears they were trying to gin up a controversy they could blame on feminism.

Because today, that picture was taken down by Facebook. Or perhaps by Bloomfield, who has a long history of dirty tricks, in an attempt to frame feminists for the takedown.

Who knows? What I do know is that AVFM’s flying Twitter monkeys are flitting about Twitter blaming “hateful feminists” for allegedly flagging Bloomfield’s pic. (Pics blurred because some of you access this blog at work.)

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You can’t make this shit up. Well, you could, but who would believe you?

Men’s Rights Activists, once again stranger than fiction.

 

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sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I think all this goes to show just what AVFM will do to/for the women in their ranks, depending on whether she’s in favour with them or not. Topless photo and she’s one of the guys? FREE SPEECH!
Topless photo and she’s not? CRUCIFY!

Faint Praise
Faint Praise
5 years ago

“Receives double mastectomy” seems like a pretty insensitive way to frame having your pictures removed from a social networking site in accordance with their policy on nudity.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Speaking of policy violations, having an account as “Janet Bloomfield” was one not so long ago…when Facebook had a no-pseudonym policy.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
5 years ago

LOL! Such idiots.

BTW, do these people ever work? As in, you know, have jobs that allow them to support themselves and their families and contribute something useful to society?

Are they even adults…?

zyvlyn
zyvlyn
5 years ago

Wow. They are trying SO HARD to start a controversy. It’s actually kind of adorable how much effort they put in for this dumb thing.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Also, they are WAY behind the curve with #FreeTheNipple. All I can do is point and laugh.

tinyorc
5 years ago

Why do they think that feminists would care about JB’s nipples in any capacity?

Also, check out the AVfM lads trying to rally GamerGate around JB’s Buzzfeed article.
https://twitter.com/deanesmay/status/582575856809312256
https://twitter.com/Alvhun/status/582575627238318081

Because, you know, it’s about ethics in one big melting pot of online misogyny.

apeculiarpersonage
apeculiarpersonage
5 years ago

Do these people seriously have nothing better to do? So many more productive ways they could spend their time . . . clipping their toenails, researching the mating habits of the puffer fish, juggling geese . . .

ScarlettAthena
5 years ago

I’m sure there is some term for this phenomenon: when you like and approve of someone (especially some famous person who might also be a role model), you take offense when they are criticized; you think they can do no wrong; when you dislike someone (for reasons that might even have been rational at some point, but possibly the hate is totally irrational) there is nothing they can do right; they can’t even really breathe correctly as far as you’re concerned.

I recognize the tendency even in myself. I want the people I like to do no wrong and for the people I dislike to fail spectacularly. However, I recognize this in myself and try not to react to it.

alaisvex
alaisvex
5 years ago

Naked pics/pics of women’s breasts being taken down? Must be a feminazi conspiracy. Facebook is otherwise so notoriously tolerant of topless photos of women.

http://static.animalpolitico.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/sarcasm.jpg

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
5 years ago

Even if there was a totes legit reason for JB to share photos of her “post-baby body” online… her work colleagues sending them out, unsolicited, to people they hate, is totally creepy.

Also… Doesn’t she realise that women post pictures of breastfeeding, mastectomy scars and non-sexualised naked bodies on Facebook specifically because it’s against their T&Cs and they want to make a specific, decidedly Feminist statement about empowering female nudity and body policing?

Is she wanting to take part in Feminist activism now? Is she trying to express some kind of solidarity with Diana?
Or is it more likely that she’ll reveal in her next blog post that she thinks she can single-handedly encourage Facebook to remove the porn filters that oppress teh poor menz, who can’t even be bothered to navigate to another website for their boner-pleasing noodz?
Or my best theory, based on how vindictive she can be – she wants to be able to share nudes of anyone she wants to smear on social media, and since FB frowns upon that, she’s using her own nudes to demand that they be allowed?

Seems bizarre enough to be MRA-logic, but who knows? They sure do like to keep us guessing whatever they’ll come up with next.

M.
M.
5 years ago

So, like, is there any way to report the revenge porn campaign against Davison to… Whichever government body prosecutes revenge porn cases? Or can only the victim do that?

isidore13
isidore13
5 years ago

I keep holding out hope that one of these redpillians will turn out to be playing some sort of long con on the other redpillians just for shits and giggles. But I think that’s my wishful thinking, no one can really think like that can they?, optimistic brain hoping that.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

David, who knows what the fuck JB is trying to do any more. Everything that comes out of her mouth screams ‘look at meeeeee!’

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

Even if there was a totes legit reason for JB to share photos of her “post-baby body” online… her work colleagues sending them out, unsolicited, to people they hate, is totally creepy.

QFT. In what world is that remotely okay?

Annie Squidface
5 years ago

That’s hilarious.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

Personally I have no problem with JB plastering her breasts all over social media, as a feminist I abhor slut shaming. I suppose she can always put them on her blog?

You don’t think she might be doing this for attention, do you?

childrenofthebroccoli
5 years ago

I’d hesitate to say that a woman posting nudes of herself is “just doing it for attention”, but sending links to notable feminists/anti-redpillers is a hilariously transparent attempt to get attention and start a fight.

Johanna Roberts
5 years ago

@Aunt Edna – someone doesn’t have to have a job to be useful to society. On the flip side it’s completely possible to HAVE a job and be a waste of space and fresh air. Don’t assume working would be the only way they can redeem themselves. Sorry if this seems an odd thing to get on about, but I’m a severely disabled woman who can’t work and I like to think I have SOME use to society.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

I’m all up for desexualizing women’s breasts, but this is some hypocritical bullshit right here.

@AltoFronto: I think the theory that she wants to post other people’s nudes as revenge porn is the most likely theory. She does like to be an attack dog.

As for the Buzzfeed thing, it is silly that they’re like “LOOK, Buzzfeed’s letting it stay here! That means they approve!” Ugh, no. And I think the only reason GamerGate would jump on this is because they hate Buzzfeed.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

So cute of AVFMorons to call their critics “haters”, when all those people do is sit around hating on feminists all day. And wanking to pix of Judgy Nobody’s boobs.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

(By “those people”, I mean AVFMorons & Co., in case that’s not clear.)

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Why would feminists give a single, solitary happy rat’s behind about JBs boobs or who she shares pics of them with? They’re just breasts. I wouldn’t care if she strolled down the street topless. I wouldn’t care if she made a highly successful porn site. It’s her body. It’s her business.

Feminists support a woman’s right to make her own choices with her body and who she shares it with. It’s the slut-shaming, upskirt photo taking, internet stalking, misogynist manosphere that want to control what women do with their own bodies and social networking accounts.

These claims are just lies, noise and projection. That’s all MRAs know how to do.

idledillettante
5 years ago

What’s really weird is the other MRAs in the Twittersphere who keep Tweeting at Janet Bloomfield’s suspended accounts, as if she still controls them. Both Vincer and Esmay include @judgybitch1 in their Tweets, an account which has been suspended for months now. Like, in case JB’s old Twitter is unsuspended, now they don’t have to worry about their JB related tweets being lost to posterity.

A JB unban from Twitter is pretty unlikely, thought. Even Janet Bloomfield alt accounts that didn’t reveal her real name (like @ArdReign last December) have been suspended from Twitter, the platform seems to have made a decision to ban her for good.

freemage
5 years ago

I feel like posting a smidge of brainbleach here. It’s a bit darker than usual, but I think it’s funny, even so:
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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

So. At least now we know what PR means to JB. “PR,” to her, is when you orchestrate a public booby trap* for your enemies in an effort to defame them. Not… you know… positive outreach with the intent to bring awareness to your message. Truly, when her enemies sigh and ask “ok, what is JB up to this time,” she will know that her victory is assured.

*#sorrynotsorry

ceebarks
ceebarks
5 years ago

soooo….

1) violate a well-known site’s well-known ToS.
2) blame takedown of your content on your “enemies”
3) ?
4) PROFIT

Does FB allow pseudonymous accounts now? If so, that’s a shame. I thought the real-name thing was their big selling point. With pseudonymous accounts running riot, how’s it different than every other website full of anony-aholes? meh…

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

I guess these MRAs haven’t heard of Femen, body positivity activism, or these folks: (NSFW) https://coedtoplesspulpfiction.wordpress.com/

Also, when have MRas ever supported breastfeeding moms before? Those are the women who have fought loudest to post pics of bared breast on FB.
You know they haven’t. If anything, MRAs are the trolls who harass those women for showing their slutty baby feeding and bonding photos on their own pages.

Rosemary
Rosemary
5 years ago

I am so confused. If this is about framing feminists of flagging pictures, it is ridiculously transparent. Also, the whole point of women posting breast-feeding pictures is in response to women’s bodies being constantly sexualized. JB can post whatever she wants and no one should shame her for it, but posting a clearly sexualized picture in a post about pregnancies and breast-feeding makes no sense

freemage
5 years ago

Rosemary: Actually, I can even think of a legitimate reason for going so far as to do a sexualized pic in such a post. I can see a woman, just having had a baby, wanting to blast myths about how mothers are not sexy. But that’s also not what this is about. This is about JB thinking she’s clever, like the toddler in a roomful of adults who thinks that no one actually knows who pooped their pants.

sparky
sparky
5 years ago

Ok, well, that is totally bizarre. Just, what, exactly, are they trying to accomplish by sending topless photos of JB to feminists?

What are the thought processes that lead to “spreading nude photos of your co-worker around the Internet” seeming like a sound strategy to accomplish…whatever it was they were trying to accomplish?

None of this makes any sense at all and it makes my head hurt trying to parse it.

flagalicious
flagalicious
5 years ago

Looking closely at the FB page you posted I read, at the end of “Bloomfield”‘s explanation of the photo, something like “Come on feminists! Flag me! I dare you!” I can only imagine that she wanted her audience of disaffected men to ogle her body, but also needed some sort of excuse to disguise that, so she shoveled two layers of horse shit on top:

1. She pretended the photo was about motherhood (but the photo itself is so not about motherhood, so hypersexualized and photoshopped, FB took it down), and

2. She pretended her exhibitionism had some relevance to her ideology and threw in a provocation to the usual scapegoats for all her malicious mischief, feminists.

She’s going down in a flurry of bizarre behavior.

I would add her to the general AVFM meltdown.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

I didn’t know JB just had a baby. I thought her kids were school aged now. Am I wrong? “Post baby body” suggests that she’s recently been pregnant and is sharing the changes in her body with other women who want to know more about the effects of pregnancy, not for MRAssholes to wank to and send to people who do not want to see her ta-tas. I don’t thinks she’s been pregnant recently.

She’s so full of shit.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Photoshopped?
Really?
Seriously?

She did not claim a photoshopped pic was meant to be illustrative of the effects of pregnancy on the body. Who would do that? No one is that…
Oh.
Right.

sn0rkmaiden
5 years ago

She photoshopped her post pregnancy body? That is cheating.

I assumed she was posting pictures from years ago, why I can’t quite fathom.

Maybe some feminists should set up a facebook page campaigning in support of JB’s right to post titty pics? That would certainly confuse her.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Honestly, could she be more transparent? It’s all about the wanks with AVFMorons. They’ve already made it clear that they are not about any actual human rights activism of any description. They’re just a place where guys sit around drinking beer, playing poker, and shooting the shit. And occasionally staring at nude-lady calendars on the wall and making crude remarks about Miss November’s tits, apparently.

M.
M.
5 years ago

… Wait, are we sure it’s even her body and not just a random pic she pulled off the Internet a la the #NotYourShield socks? This is the queen of bad lies we’re talking about here.

misanthropic_squirrel
misanthropic_squirrel
5 years ago

“Why would feminists give a single, solitary happy rat’s behind about JBs boobs or who she shares pics of them with?”

They (avfm’ers and the likes) have never seemed to have a clear grasp of what wave of feminism they are infact fighting against, and it all just becomes a huge contradictive pile of sadlarity which makes no sense to anyone but them.

Shaenon
5 years ago

I think I’ve officially lost my ability to be offended by MRAs, because my reaction to the last several Mammoth posts, even the really horrifying rape-themed ones, has been a baffled, “That’s just… weird.”

And JB is quite possibly the weirdest of them all. Her bumbling schemes to frame feminists for various offenses are so detached from reality it’s hard to follow what she’s even trying to do. It’s pretty entertaining, but also, you know. Weird.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Shaenon | March 30, 2015 at 8:06 pm
I think I’ve officially lost my ability to be offended by MRAs, because my reaction to the last several Mammoth posts, even the really horrifying rape-themed ones, has been a baffled, “That’s just… weird.”

And JB is quite possibly the weirdest of them all. Her bumbling schemes to frame feminists for various offenses are so detached from reality it’s hard to follow what she’s even trying to do. It’s pretty entertaining, but also, you know. Weird.

They’re like Captain Planet villains at this point. : /

Binjabreel
5 years ago

Now I’m going to imagine Horace Greedly whenever I read quotes from MRA’s.

boogerghost
boogerghost
5 years ago

Yeah, the fact that she included that ominous insinuation that feminists would have a problem with the photo shows that she and her followers have distorted the idea of feminism so far that the word is pretty much meaningless beyond “my opponents.” I hope she doesn’t actually believe that and is just manipulating her little minions for shits and gigs. Or maybe I don’t, I can’t decide which would be more comforting. It’s quite a bit like tagging your gun rally photos with #suckitCharltonHeston.

@freemage Hahaha, great bleach, thank you. And nice metaphor about pants-shitting as well.

Ellie
Ellie
5 years ago

With technology the way it is I’m surprised no one she knows irl has found her/her real name been revealed so far. That would suck for her, for sure

Ktoryx
Ktoryx
5 years ago

… sorry, why exactly is this “the feminists” and not just… you know… Facebook’s community guidelines? Aren’t feminists the ones who have always campaigned against the draconian limits on the female body that FB imposes? What proof do they have that the person, if any, who reported this image identifies as feminist?

Holy wow, this has “fake controversy” written all over it. “Nothing to be outraged about today?? Nonsense! I will MAKE something to be outraged about today!”

brooked
brooked
5 years ago

@David

At the time, I was puzzled as to why Jack Barnes, a particularly rabid AVFMer who has me blocked on Twitter, felt it necessary to send me a link to a topless photo of his colleague. I figured the two of them were up to something, but I couldn’t figure out
what.

They sent you something that made no discernible sense that left you mildly confused. Woah, what a burn! They sure tricked you, getting you to do nothing and not care.

I can’t even make out the blurry mess Attila is posting but he’s apparently very proud of it.

Attila L. Vinczer ‏@Alvhun 9h9 hours ago
@zergbitch @JustLaurenB @judgybitch @TakedownMRAs Love to defeat my adversary with their own biased logic/rules. Like Holy water on Daemean

Exactly.

lith
lith
5 years ago

@sn0rkmaiden:

Maybe some feminists should set up a facebook page campaigning in support of JB’s right to post titty pics? That would certainly confuse her.

That sounds like a great idea. I’m almost tempted to do it too. Not to confuse her, but to show how much feminists want her to have the right to do so if she wishes. As opposed to whatever it is she’s trying to ‘prove’ feminists ‘really’ want.

because reasons
because reasons
5 years ago

I got it, I got it! What they really want is more wank material from people who were tagged. Sure, they publicly “hate” them, but secretly their lust for feminists burns uncontrollably. SO they came up with a plan: Have Just a Bitch post some noody pics and tag all the eeevil feminists they secretly desire. Being total dum-dums, they will surely think it’s just a new game and soon they will want to join in the fun! Why, I’m sure David has already taken a topless, provocative selfie to post on FB…admit it, David, you know they *want* you!

lith
lith
5 years ago

Hahaha 🙂
The sad thing is – based on the logic I’ve seen used – I can almost believe it.