French prosecutors are saying that the co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed in the Alps brought the plane down deliberately, after locking the pilot out of the cockpit. If so, this was one of the most horrific cases of murder/suicide the world has ever seen.
At the moment, we don’t know enough about the co-pilot, 28-year-old Andreas Lubitz. to know what motivated him to allegedly crash the plane. French authorities are saying that they don’t think it was an act of terrorism. But that may be because they have a rather simplistic definition of terrorism.
Murder/suicide is an overwhelmingly male crime; studies suggest that men may make up 90% or more of the perpetrators. While most of these cases — excluding suicide bombings — involve a man killing himself and a partner or ex-partner, there have also been cases in which men have resorted to mass murder in order to make some twisted point about what they see as a world unfair to men in general and them in particular. These acts aren’t generally considered terrorism, but they should be.
You know the names: Elliot Rodger, who killed seven, including himself, as part of what he called his “War on Women.” George Sodini, a would-be pickup artist who opened fire on an LA Fitness aerobics class because he couldn’t get a date. Marc Lepine, who killed 14 women at the École Polytechnique in Montreal in an attempt “to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker.” The list goes on.
Whenever one of these horrific massacres occurs, there are always some who rush to excuse or defend or even lionize the perpetators. And there are those who argue that these tragedies could have somehow been averted if women had just treated these poor men better.
In the case of this particular tragedy, reactionary fantasy writer Vox Day — real name, Theodore Beale — is literally suggesting that it could have been prevented “if the sluts of the world were just a little less picky and a little more equitable in their distribution of blowjobs.”
Here’s his, er, argument, from a post on his Alpha Game blog today:
Why he did it, no one knows yet, but it won’t surprise me to learn that Lubritch [sic] was a deeply angry and embittered Omega male. There is a reason Omegas frighten women merely by existing; they are capable of terrible and merciless acts of self-destruction. You can see Lubritch is a small and prematurely balding young man, possibly somewhat overweight, his occupation indicates that he was more intelligent than the norm, and the uncertain smile he has on his face tends to indicate low socio-sexual rank.
Good to know that Vox — who himself has an “uncertain smile” in some photographs I’ve seen of him — can x-ray someone’s personality by glancing at a snapshot.
Now, obviously no one else was responsible for Lubritch’s actions if it indeed was Omega rage at work. He alone bears the blame. But it is somewhat haunting to think about how many lives might be saved each year if the sluts of the world were just a little less picky and a little more equitable in their distribution of blowjobs.
So he alone deserves the blame — but somehow his actions are also the fault of unfair blowjob distribution by the “sluts of the world?”
As a 28 year-old airline pilot, Lubritch would likely have been married in a more traditionally structured society. It’s not impossible that the Germanwings deaths represent more of the indirect costs of feminism.
Oh, and it’s ultimately the fault of feminism.
Now, Vox Day is a famously terrible person, and something of a troll.
But the fact is that similar — if generally less explicit — apologias for male violence are common in the “manosphere” and amongst Men’s Rights Activists.
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Rassilon and Omega collaborated on it, but Omega is the one who did the actual stellar engineering and consequently wound up being trapped inside an antimatter pocket universe. The Eye of Harmony could not have been created without the Hand of Omega, after all. If you look up “Hand of Omega” in Wikipedia it explains how the supernova was created by Omega using The Hand.
Dawn Incognito-I am glad you got the help and support that you needed and that things have improved for you. *hugs*
“Christ on a bicycle, I’ve resisted jumping in front of a subway just by thinking of how it would traumatize the driver of the train and the people in the station. I just can’t understand how a pilot could do that to their crew and passengers and their loved ones. So many people hurt by one man’s selfish act.”
Me neither. I must say that I am totally shocked at this. I can’t comprehend it all! How could someone do something like that? The mere thought of doing something like makes me sick and he did it for real! He must have had no empathy or compassion at all.
I was the same way when I was suicidal in high school. I thought about killing myself, but then wondered what would happen if my mom or my siblings found my body and what that would do to them, and I always stopped myself right there.
I think it could have something to do with women being socialized to put others before themselves. Men are free to do what they want with their lives (until they have kids, but even then they get some free passes), but women are “meant to” take care of others before ourselves, and this sometimes leads to women doing some things to simply break the monotony.
It’s a wonder to me why some people find it so surprising that some housewives find their lives wholly unfulfilled. “But you have [insert number here] beautiful kids, and a loving husband! How could you be bored with your life? It’s perfect!” they say. Because society says all women could ever want is a man to give them babies and put a roof over their heads. Bleh.
I do admit that one of the major factors that kept me from attempting suicide during my pre-medication depression was knowing how it would affect my husband. Not so much the kids, strangely enough. But then, my husband (a practicing witch) has assured me that, wherever I go afterwards, he will find me. And it will not be pretty.
I’d be wary of this guy next…
“Women Don’t Care About My Feelings”
https://youtu.be/eByaTM3gV-A
(takes out bingo card)
(puts token on “women are sex dispensers,”
“equal distribution of ‘wealth’ is important, but only ‘sexual wealth,'”
and “keeping half the population perpetually subordinate is preferable to any upheaval that might result from social change.”)
(sighs)
How about this. If men were less fussy about looks, they might get more blow jobs. But let me guess, the real problem here is that Vox is probably running out of the 6 million $$ that daddy stole, and once it’s gone, Spacebunny will be gone too, and without money, Vox will probably have to settle for a woman who weighs about 500 lbs, if he wants a blow job, because he sure as hell doesn’t have a personality that is going to attract any sane woman.
What the fuck? Ann Morgan, I do not welcome your bullshit.
It is obvious there is no level that this guy won’t stoop too. No matter what happens he will find someway to blame it on women.
You can imagine possible examples: Headline: cancer cured. Vox: “would have been cured much earlier except for …women”.
The Ukraine blows up, the nukes start flying and in his last post before frying in nuclear flame he will say ‘its all womens fault if they had just given more blow jobs and got rid of their bastards children this would not have…….’.
I’d find it merely pathetic if he didn’t piss me off so much.
Yet another fairly serious site buying the misogynist ‘cool aid’. http://fabiusmaximus.com/
A pretty serious, abeit usually conservative (military background) global affairs site.
Aims: “This blog discusses geopolitics — broadly defined as economics, government, sociology and the military arts — from an American’s perspective. This includes topics such as grand strategy, demographics, and peak oil. Here we seek a perspective from which to better see events and trends — things on the edge of our available information, on the edge of known theory. Our goal: to find ways to reignite the spirit of a nation grown cold. ”
However this post buys the whole MRM, misogynist myth hook line and sinker.
http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/02/21/pickup-artists-game-women-gender-dark-triad-79117/
I posted a reply, pointing out how incorrect this was, which was quickly deleted.
Some snippets:
“Feminists have gained the high ground in control of society’s institutions, and watch with outrage as men act in defiance of the new social norms.”
“The war of the sexes heats up: society changes as men learn the Dark Triad”
“Massive changes have reshaped American society. Hollywood, rock music, and schools reduced the family’s ability to indoctrinate girls and control young women. Women’s increased financial independence diminished their need to “settle” when marrying”.
“These changes had powerful effects, unforeseen by scientists and social reformers. First, women’s hypergamy was let loose, their drive to seek men of higher status (e.g., the combination of wealth, income, status, height, appearance, charisma). Second, restraints were lifted on their love of men with the Dark Triad of behavioral traits. Psychologists and sociologists have just begun to understand the results.”
“In brief, women seek men with the behaviors of “alpha” men (high social rank, loosely derived from ethology). These traits can be learned — or at least imitated. Much of game consists of learning to pass tests women use to identify alphas”
“Successful men living by the social codes of the past are “betas” (e.g., white knights, nice family men, good boys). Men unable to deal with modern women are “omegas” (substituting porn, sports, and computer games for women).”
And so on, the usual rubbish we ahve all heard before.
But this is scary in a way. This is a fairly serious and pretty well connected bunch of people. Oh yes they denied global warming for some years. Yep they do on and on about trying to find some magic way to stop losing wars (hint: don’t start them in the first place).
But within those limitations this passes for a fairly (by US standards) geo-political intellectual discussion site. And yet they buy this load of rubbish.
Please feel free to comment there.
My reply to the post started “Men talking about women and their ideas ‘of what women want’. Worse US ‘manosphere’ men…we now are entering a reality free zone…”.
Hollywood, rock music, and schools reduced the family’s ability to indoctrinate girls and control young women.
Is that website a time machine that sends angry reactionary men to some year between 1920-1960? I assume there’s an article exposing the infernal influence of sock hops on impressionable young ladies.
“In brief, women seek men with the behaviors of “alpha” men (high social rank, loosely derived from ethology).”
Emphasis on the word “loosely”.
There are some (but trust me not very many) advantages about being transgendered.
For some of us older ones that meant we worked very hard for so many years to fit into male society. Thus we became very astute observers of males so we could copy them better and not be found out.
The funny thing is that I can understand the appeal of this rubbish/crap/etc to some males that I have known. I also very much understand how so many males are such group people, far more so than females these days who, overall, are much more independent thinkers.
I hate the top MRM people totally. more so than some genetic females here, because they hate women, but oh my do they so hate TG people even more. In their ‘ideal society’ genetic females are just slaves, but we TG are all killed.
But I do feel a bit sad for some lonely, socially inept or emotionally hurt males who get sucked into this stuff, even more so when there are so many better alternatives available in their lives.
That’s yet another reason why I think these people are far more dangerous than some give them credit for. Not just them individually for what they do (that’s bad enough) , but their potential and actual influence on others.
That Fabius Maximus site is a classic example.Ex-military and older people (several ex-Marines) struggling to understand and adapt to the societal changes and then this ‘theory’ comes up that is ‘simple’ for them to understand and then they can sign up to it. It makes a lot of sense to them.
The fact it just another ‘blame the women’, or is completely illogical, or is so divorced from reality or the majority of peoples’ real lives is neither here nor there. This fits into their overall belief systems, this is a ‘war’, with ‘conflict’, ‘winners’ and ‘losers’, ‘tactics’ and ‘strategy’…. and so on. They can understand it in these terms.
A male hierarchy, wonderful, they spent all their lives in a such an environment, so it is emotonally and intellectually comfortable for them.
But, and here is the big BUT, the fact that a site like FM would sign up to this and censor conflciting arguments is a very dangerous sign. As long as the MRM (etc) stay in their little boxes that is bad enough but tolerable (to an extent), when they start breaking into semi-influential ‘thought leaders’ that is a worry.
On a brighter note, just got my first job as a female. Ok, short term, crappy pay, but my first as the real me. Baby steps as they say.
Congratulations, and I hope it leads to more opportunities in the future.
More, sorry if I am over posting but this caught my eye:
http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/comedy/comedian-ray-badran-tells-audience-member-to-die-for-objecting-to-rape-joke-20150327-1m9hgb.html
“Audience member Cecelia Devlin, the Melbourne woman who objected to Badran’s comments, said the variety evening had already included several jokes about domestic violence.
“He then came on as the third-last act and said ‘So you know how gay people can make jokes about being gay, and black people can make jokes about being black, well I can make jokes about rape’ implying it’s because he looks like a rapist.”
“”He started saying to me ‘What’s your problem? Seriously, what’s this girl’s problem? Oh wait, you probably shouldn’t ask someone whose just called out a rape joke what their problem is’.”
“He tried to go on with the show but it had clearly very much shaken him,” she said.
“Finally he gave up and decided to walk off and said ‘Good on you for taking a stand, but you’re a piece of sh*t and I hope you die’.””
Good on her. Wish I had been there.
Not knocking comedians at all, you can make jokes about all sorts of things, even uncomfortable things. Using irony, satire and so on you can raise all sorts of issues that challenge ‘normal’ thought.
But he sounds like an idiot.
I actually know a woman who abandoned her six kids when her boyfriend gave her the ultimatum. Her parents fought for years to adopt the kids but judges kept turning them down and their biological father, who didn’t want them and who was convicted of statutory rape of a 13-year-old, kept objecting. He once put his oldest daughter in the hospital for watching a movie with a boy with the boy’s parents right in the house. Yet where they live, various judges kept taking the dad’s side against the grandparents. By the time the grandparents were able to adopt, there were only three kids who were still minors.
Thanks Katz, one of the scariest moments of my life…the interview. But the people there wre great.
Paradoxical Intention- I am a criminology graduate (have completed my Masters a few years ago and I am currently trying to get a PhD scholarship. If I can get my research proposal done and all the forms completed. I only have a month until this year’s application close. I have to get a move on!) and I have to agree that socialization does play a significant role in this. It is a well known fact that there is huge (and I mean HUGE) gender gap in offending, particularly in when it comes to violent offenses like assault, rape, homicide and murder-suicide. This isn’t just in America or the UK, this occurs globally. I have just found a very interesting study-2013 Global Study on Homicide by United Nations Office Drugs and Crime. This study recognizes that even though victim rate is 4 times higher for men than is for women, the vast majority of victims are killed by other men and that homicides are mostly committed by men. According to this study, about 95% percent of the world’s homicide is committed by men. In Europe, 92% of homicides are committed by men, in Asia 95% of homicides are committed by men and 96% in the Americas. Also most female victims of homicide are murdered by men. Also, more than half are murdered by intimate partner or family member. Even though they did not separate crimes by type and by sex, there is a huge global gender gap in crime.
While I was writing my Masters thesis, I have also found that there are also significant differences between male and female offenders. For example, men are more likely to reoffend than women. In Australia (where I live) 50%-68% of men will reoffend, while 28%-50% of women would reoffend (it varies from state to state). I have also found that female offenders have experienced far more physical, emotional and sexual abuse than male offenders.
Female offenders suffer/suffered from more physical and sexual abuse. Relationship problems, drug-dependency, poor mental health, low self-esteem and poor employment/educational prospects have a greater impact on female recidivism than on males. In Australia, female prisoners were more likely to be victims of child abuse than male prisoners. Over half of Indigenous and non-Indigenous women (60% and 65%) reported being victims of emotional abuse, psychical abuse and sexual abuse. Instances of abuse were lower for both Indigenous and non-Indigenous male prisoners in all areas. Also, 78% of female offenders have been victims of adult abuse of some form. Child sexual abuse also had a greater impact on female offenders, with victims being 1.6 times more likely to be violent offenders than those who were not victimised. This had no impact on male offending, with 80% of male offenders being violent offenders-this is irrespective of their victimisation experiences. Female offenders are also more likely to be suffering from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)- 80% compared to 55% of war veterans! . However, antisocial attitudes were more prevalent among male offenders, affecting 39% of men compared with 7% of women.
Women are also more likely to test positive to at least one drug on arrest than men-80% and 72% respectively (Johnson 2010: 4). Drug dependency also has a greater impact on female offending than male offending, with 70% of chronic offenders being drug dependant compared with 12% of irregular offenders. (Johnson 2010: 50). This is also the case in reverse, with women being more likely to be offenders if drug dependant (95%) than those who were not (45%). Drug use is also more likely to predate female offending with 35% using illegal drugs prior, 31% on the onset and 34%. 28 after the onset of offending. (Johnson 2010: 64). The opposite was true for males, with 17% using drugs prior to offending and 29% on the onset and 54% after its onset.
So yeah, women seem to resist committing crime more than men and women put up with far more shit before committing crime. And sex role socialization has a lot to do with this. Becoming a man or a women is a continuing process and it is also socially constructed. behaviours encouraged for men and women by society. People are socialised into acting according to the ever-changing notions of what is appropriate for men and women. Schools, the mass media and people-such as friends, family and colleagues-create expectations of appropriate behaviours and also create pressures for conformity. Men engage in higher levels of violence than women, because they have been socialised to do so. Boys are pushed toward aggressive and competitive sports and are also pressured to show bravery and toughness for fear of being labelled as ‘sissies’ ‘pussies’ ‘poofta’ (Australian slang for gay), and mangina of course. Girls are taught to be compliant, passive and dependent. Violent and aggressive behaviour is actively discouraged. Socialisation also influences moral development. For example, women experience greater expectations to learn nurturing and parenting. This helps to restrain women from criminal behaviour and violence that will cause harm to others. Differing expectations regarding physical appearance, sexuality, also reinforce greater levels of female dependency.
As for women being socialised to but others before themselves, I have found that this is the case, too. My thesis topic was ‘Sex Differences in Altruism Shown in Offenders: Are Female Offenders More Altruistic Than Male Offenders?’ One of my lecturers mentioned in class that women are more altruistic than men in their offending. I just had to find out if this was true. It was. I looked at The Supreme Court of Tasmania judgments (I was only allowed to use local data) for the last 5 years. I found that there were 152 cases involving men and only 25 cases involving women. I also found that male offending was more egoistic in almost every aspect, excepting for ‘financial gain’ (30% compared with 68%) and ‘usually committed for egoistic reasons’ (96% for both groups). The male group scored higher on ‘serious offence’ (71% compared with 40%), ‘exploitation of the vulnerable’ (18% compared with 4%), ‘enjoyment at the suffering/expense of others’ (22% compared with 0%), ‘breach of duty of care/trust’ (30% compared with 16%) and ‘abuse of power’ (28% compared with 12%). Males also scored higher on ‘violence’ (39% compared with 24%), ‘disregard for human life’ (34% and 20%), ‘puts others at risk (58% compared with 56%) and ‘causes/has the potential to cause harm’ (77% and 56%). The wide gap between the sexes in the ‘financial gain’ criteria is due to the large proportion of fraud related offences committed by the female group. In regards to the altruistic aspects of offences, the female group scored higher in every criteria (there were a few), especially in regards to ‘benefits others’-with 24% compared with 1% This is also due the higher instances of welfare fraud among the female group, in which the money gained from these offences helped to raise their families. Having children also had a stronger impact on female offending than the male offending, making it less egoistic in nature. It actually increased violent, firearms, drugs justice, and police related offences. It also increased the instances of sexual offending. It also increased the severity of male offending by increasing the number of offences committed against children. In fact all but three of the twenty four sexual offenders committed the offences against children. For women, having children decreased minor property and drug related offences, while eliminating violent, police and public order offences. There was a sharp increase in fraud among the female group which was due single parents committing minor welfare fraud to support their children. It was also found that female offenders are more altruistic than male offenders-with the female group scoring higher in altruism and neutrality than the male group. They also scored lower in egoism than the male group. However, one unexpected finding was that having dependent children did not increase the level of altruism among female group. The female group also scored lower on most of the criteria for egoism, while scoring higher than the male group on most indicators of altruism. A significant finding was that the female group offended for more altruistic reasons than the male group. Most of the female group was motivated by necessity or concern for their children, partners and parents. In contrast, most of the male offending stemmed from greed, sexual gratification and drunkenness. So yeah, you are absolutely right.
I’m sorry for the long essay! ^^; I won’t hold it against you (or anyone else) if you don’t read it all. It’s just that you have touched on a topic that I am very interested in. Anyway, here are the refs to all that in no particular order.
http://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/217824/statistics-women-cjs-2010.pdf
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime.htmlafter the onset of offending. (Johnson 2010: 64). The opposite was true for males, with 17% using drugs prior to offending and 29% on the onset and 54% after its onset.
http://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/217824/statistics-women-cjs-2010.pdf
http://www.unodc.org/unodc/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime.html
Connell, Raewyn (2009) Short Introductions: Gender in the World Perspective Second Edition. United Kingdom: Polity Press.
Allan, Emilie and Darrell Steffensmeier (1996) ‘Gender and crime: toward a gendered theory of female offending’. Annual Review of Sociology 22: 459-487, also available on http://web.ebscohost.com.ezproxy.utas.edu.au/ehost/pdfviewer/pdfviewer?sid=7e5ef7bb-bf3b-4427-a923-c4122080084f%40sessionmgr12&vid=1&hid=17
Caulfield, Laura (2010) ‘Rethinking the assessment of female offenders’. The Howard Journal Criminal Justice 49(4):315–327, also available on http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com.ezproxy.utas.edu.au/doi/10.1111/j.1468-2311.2010.00625.x/pdf
Wundersitz, (2010) ‘Indigenous perpetrators of violence: Prevalence and risk factors for offending’. Public Policy Series 105 (16 April 2011).
Eccleston et al (2006) ‘The treatment needs of female offenders: a review’. Australian Psychologist 37(2):198-205, also available on http://www.tandfonline.com.ezproxy.utas.edu.au/doi/pdf/10.1080/00050060210001706876 (
Blanchette, Kelly (2002) Classifying female offenders for effective intervention: application of the case-based principles of risk and need. Forum on Corrections Research 14(1):31-35, also available on http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/text/pblct/forum/e141/141h_e.pdf
Johnson, Holly (2010) ‘Drugs and crime: a study on incarcerated female offenders’. Research and Public Policy Series 63 http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/E/B/8/%7BEB8A400C-E611-42BF-9B9F-B58E7C5A0694%7DRPP63.pdf
Eccleston et al (2006) ‘The treatment needs of female offenders: a review’. Australian Psychologist 37(2):198-205, also available on http://www.tandfonline.com.ezproxy.utas.edu.au/doi/pdf/10.1080/00050060210001706876
Paradoxical Intention- I am a criminology graduate (have completed my Masters a few years ago and I am currently trying to get a PhD scholarship. If I can get my research proposal done and all the forms completed. I only have a month until this year’s application close. I have to get a move on!) and I have to agree that socialization does play a significant role in this. It is a well known fact that there is huge (and I mean HUGE) gender gap in offending, particularly in when it comes to violent offenses like assault, rape, homicide and murder-suicide. This isn’t just in America or the UK, this occurs globally. I have just found a very interesting study-2013 Global Study on Homicide by United Nations Office Drugs and Crime. This study recognizes that even though victim rate is 4 times higher for men than is for women, the vast majority of victims are killed by other men and that homicides are mostly committed by men. According to this study, about 95% percent of the world’s homicide is committed by men. In Europe, 92% of homicides are committed by men, in Asia 95% of homicides are committed by men and 96% in the Americas. Also most female victims of homicide are murdered by men. Also, more than half are murdered by intimate partner or family member. Even though they did not separate crimes by type and by sex, there is a huge global gender gap in crime.
While I was writing my Masters thesis, I have also found that there are also significant differences between male and female offenders. For example, men are more likely to reoffend than women. In Australia (where I live) 50%-68% of men will reoffend, while 28%-50% of women would reoffend (it varies from state to state). I have also found that female offenders have experienced far more physical, emotional and sexual abuse than male offenders.
Female offenders suffer/suffered from more physical and sexual abuse. Relationship problems, drug-dependency, poor mental health, low self-esteem and poor employment/educational prospects have a greater impact on female recidivism than on males. In Australia, female prisoners were more likely to be victims of child abuse than male prisoners. Over half of Indigenous and non-Indigenous women (60% and 65%) reported being victims of emotional abuse, psychical abuse and sexual abuse. Instances of abuse were lower for both Indigenous and non-Indigenous male prisoners in all areas. Also, 78% of female offenders have been victims of adult abuse of some form. Child sexual abuse also had a greater impact on female offenders, with victims being 1.6 times more likely to be violent offenders than those who were not victimised. This had no impact on male offending, with 80% of male offenders being violent offenders-this is irrespective of their victimisation experiences. Female offenders are also more likely to be suffering from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)- 80% compared to 55% of war veterans! . However, antisocial attitudes were more prevalent among male offenders, affecting 39% of men compared with 7% of women.
Women are also more likely to test positive to at least one drug on arrest than men-80% and 72% respectively (Johnson 2010: 4). Drug dependency also has a greater impact on female offending than male offending, with 70% of chronic offenders being drug dependant compared with 12% of irregular offenders. (Johnson 2010: 50). This is also the case in reverse, with women being more likely to be offenders if drug dependant (95%) than those who were not (45%). Drug use is also more likely to predate female offending with 35% using illegal drugs prior, 31% on the onset and 34%. 28 after the onset of offending. (Johnson 2010: 64). The opposite was true for males, with 17% using drugs prior to offending and 29% on the onset and 54% after its onset.
So yeah, women seem to resist committing crime more than men and women put up with far more shit before committing crime. And sex role socialization has a lot to do with this. Becoming a man or a women is a continuing process and it is also socially constructed. behaviours encouraged for men and women by society. People are socialised into acting according to the ever-changing notions of what is appropriate for men and women. Schools, the mass media and people-such as friends, family and colleagues-create expectations of appropriate behaviours and also create pressures for conformity. Men engage in higher levels of violence than women, because they have been socialised to do so. Boys are pushed toward aggressive and competitive sports and are also pressured to show bravery and toughness for fear of being labelled as ‘sissies’ ‘pussies’ ‘poofta’ (Australian slang for gay), and mangina of course. Girls are taught to be compliant, passive and dependent. Violent and aggressive behaviour is actively discouraged. Socialisation also influences moral development. For example, women experience greater expectations to learn nurturing and parenting. This helps to restrain women from criminal behaviour and violence that will cause harm to others. Differing expectations regarding physical appearance, sexuality, also reinforce greater levels of female dependency.
As for women being socialised to but others before themselves, I have found that this is the case, too. My thesis topic was ‘Sex Differences in Altruism Shown in Offenders: Are Female Offenders More Altruistic Than Male Offenders?’ One of my lecturers mentioned in class that women are more altruistic than men in their offending. I just had to find out if this was true. It was. I looked at The Supreme Court of Tasmania judgments (I was only allowed to use local data) for the last 5 years. I found that there were 152 cases involving men and only 25 cases involving women. I also found that male offending was more egoistic in almost every aspect, excepting for ‘financial gain’ (30% compared with 68%) and ‘usually committed for egoistic reasons’ (96% for both groups). The male group scored higher on ‘serious offence’ (71% compared with 40%), ‘exploitation of the vulnerable’ (18% compared with 4%), ‘enjoyment at the suffering/expense of others’ (22% compared with 0%), ‘breach of duty of care/trust’ (30% compared with 16%) and ‘abuse of power’ (28% compared with 12%). Males also scored higher on ‘violence’ (39% compared with 24%), ‘disregard for human life’ (34% and 20%), ‘puts others at risk (58% compared with 56%) and ‘causes/has the potential to cause harm’ (77% and 56%). The wide gap between the sexes in the ‘financial gain’ criteria is due to the large proportion of fraud related offences committed by the female group. In regards to the altruistic aspects of offences, the female group scored higher in every criteria (there were a few), especially in regards to ‘benefits others’-with 24% compared with 1% This is also due the higher instances of welfare fraud among the female group, in which the money gained from these offences helped to raise their families. Having children also had a stronger impact on female offending than the male offending, making it less egoistic in nature. It actually increased violent, firearms, drugs justice, and police related offences. It also increased the instances of sexual offending. It also increased the severity of male offending by increasing the number of offences committed against children. In fact all but three of the twenty four sexual offenders committed the offences against children. For women, having children decreased minor property and drug related offences, while eliminating violent, police and public order offences. There was a sharp increase in fraud among the female group which was due single parents committing minor welfare fraud to support their children. It was also found that female offenders are more altruistic than male offenders-with the female group scoring higher in altruism and neutrality than the male group. They also scored lower in egoism than the male group. However, one unexpected finding was that having dependent children did not increase the level of altruism among female group. The female group also scored lower on most of the criteria for egoism, while scoring higher than the male group on most indicators of altruism. A significant finding was that the female group offended for more altruistic reasons than the male group. Most of the female group was motivated by necessity or concern for their children, partners and parents. In contrast, most of the male offending stemmed from greed, sexual gratification and drunkenness. So yeah, you are absolutely right.
I’m sorry for the long essay! ^^; I won’t hold it against you (or anyone else) if you don’t read it all. It’s just that you have touched on a topic that I am very interested in.
Orion wrote: **What the fuck? Ann Morgan, I do not welcome your bullshit.**
Allow me to point out, sweetie, some obvious BULLSHIT on Vox’s part, which you may, perhaps, have missed.
Vox claims, loudly and continually, to be a ‘Christian’.
But here’s the thing. Andreas Lubitz provably violated at least 2 of the 10 commandments that Christians are supposed to follow.
Thou Shalt Not Kill – since he murdered 150 people
Thou Shalt Not Steal – since he commandeered an airplane he did not own.
The bible does not say ‘Thou shalt not kill – unless thou is upset over not getting enough blow jobs’. That is Vox’s interpretation, and HIS interpretation, btw, would also imply that Andreas Lubitz additionally violated 2 more commandments:
Thou shalt not covet -since according to Vox, he covetted ‘sluts’ that belonged to other men.
Thou shalt not commit adultery – since according to Jesus, a man who lusts after women has already committed adultery in his heart.
Vox’s solution to this is further violation of the bible, since he wants ‘sluts’ to commit more adultery than they already do.
Vox is not a ‘Christian’. He does not have a RELIGION, he has a sociopathic sex fantasy, and his ONLY interest in the bible, is cherrypicking through rules made up by a bronze age culture that allow him to put a veneer of holiness on his sociopathic sex fantasies. The moment the bible contradicts his sociopathic sex fantasies, such as in this case, Vox immediately turns around and contradicts the bible.
Frankly, honest debauchery such as found in 50 Shades of Grey is clean and innocent compared to Vox’s hypocrisy and covering up his sociopathic sex fantasies with a veneer of holiness.
I have refs, but word press does not seem to like links and sent the comment to moderation. So here are the refs without links.
Connell, Raewyn (2009) Short Introductions: Gender in the World Perspective Second Edition. United Kingdom: Polity Press.
Allan, Emilie and Darrell Steffensmeier (1996) ‘Gender and crime: toward a gendered theory of female offending’. Annual Review of Sociology 22: 459-487
Caulfield, Laura (2010) ‘Rethinking the assessment of female offenders’. The Howard Journal Criminal Justice 49(4):315–327
Wundersitz, (2010) ‘Indigenous perpetrators of violence: Prevalence and risk factors for offending’. Public Policy Series 105
Eccleston et al (2006) ‘The treatment needs of female offenders: a review’. Australian Psychologist 37(2):198-205
Blanchette, Kelly (2002) Classifying female offenders for effective intervention: application of the case-based principles of risk and need. Forum on Corrections Research 14(1):31-35
Eccleston et al (2006) ‘The treatment needs of female offenders: a review’. Australian Psychologist 37(2):198-205
@Ann Morgan
The bullshit Orion was referring to was yours. We all already know that Vox is full of shit. This site mocks the manosphere by pointing out their hypocrisy.
Your first comment was both ableist and fat-shaming. Those attitudes are not welcome here.
@misseb47
For what it’s worth, I didn’t mind your long post, I thought it was interesting.
“I thought it was interesting”
Me too.
Ann Morgan, Vox is a despicable excuse for a human being, but his hypocrisy and awfulness do not make you any less wrong. Implying that fat or mentally ill women somehow deserve being subjected to Vox Day (or worse, that Vox somehow “deserves” them, as if they are punishments and not people) is a terrible thing to say. Don’t do that. Seriously.