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Vox Day: Could Andreas Lubitz’s murder/suicide by plane been prevented "if the sluts of the world were a little more equitable in their distribution of blowjobs?"

Andres Lubitz: Mass murderer?
Andreas Lubitz: Mass murderer?

French prosecutors are saying that the co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus A320 that crashed in the Alps brought the plane down deliberately, after locking the pilot out of the cockpit. If so, this was one of the most horrific cases of murder/suicide the world has ever seen.

At the moment, we don’t know enough about the co-pilot, 28-year-old Andreas Lubitz. to know what motivated him to allegedly crash the plane. French authorities are saying that they don’t think it was an act of terrorism. But that may be because they have a rather simplistic definition of terrorism.

Murder/suicide is an overwhelmingly male crime; studies suggest that men may make up 90% or more of the perpetrators. While most of these cases — excluding suicide bombings — involve a man killing himself and a partner or ex-partner, there have also been cases in which men have resorted to mass murder in order to make some twisted point about what they see as a world unfair to men in general and them in particular. These acts aren’t generally considered terrorism, but they should be.

You know the names: Elliot Rodger, who killed seven, including himself, as part of what he called his “War on Women.” George Sodini, a would-be pickup artist who opened fire on an LA Fitness aerobics class because he couldn’t get a date. Marc Lepine, who killed 14 women at the École Polytechnique in Montreal in an attempt “to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker.” The list goes on.

Whenever one of these horrific massacres occurs, there are always some who rush to excuse or defend or even lionize the perpetators. And there are those who argue that these tragedies could have somehow been averted if women had just treated these poor men better.

In the case of this particular tragedy, reactionary fantasy writer Vox Day — real name, Theodore Beale — is literally suggesting that it could have been prevented “if the sluts of the world were just a little less picky and a little more equitable in their distribution of blowjobs.”

Here’s his, er, argument, from a post on his Alpha Game blog today:

Why he did it, no one knows yet, but it won’t surprise me to learn that Lubritch [sic] was a deeply angry and embittered Omega male. There is a reason Omegas frighten women merely by existing; they are capable of terrible and merciless acts of self-destruction. You can see Lubritch is a small and prematurely balding young man, possibly somewhat overweight, his occupation indicates that he was more intelligent than the norm, and the uncertain smile he has on his face tends to indicate low socio-sexual rank.

Good to know that Vox — who himself has an “uncertain smile” in some photographs I’ve seen of him — can x-ray someone’s personality by glancing at a snapshot.

Now, obviously no one else was responsible for Lubritch’s actions if it indeed was Omega rage at work. He alone bears the blame. But it is somewhat haunting to think about how many lives might be saved each year if the sluts of the world were just a little less picky and a little more equitable in their distribution of blowjobs.

So he alone deserves the blame — but somehow his actions are also the fault of unfair blowjob distribution by the “sluts of the world?”

As a 28 year-old airline pilot, Lubritch would likely have been married in a more traditionally structured society. It’s not impossible that the Germanwings deaths represent more of the indirect costs of feminism.

Oh, and it’s ultimately the fault of feminism.

Now, Vox Day is a famously terrible person, and something of a troll.

But the fact is that similar — if generally less explicit — apologias for male violence are common in the “manosphere” and amongst Men’s Rights Activists.

More on this here.

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freemage
6 years ago

There is no bar for decency so low that Vox Day could not trip over it.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
6 years ago

I know it is a futile measure in the age of the internet, but could you still refrain from posting the full name of the co-pilot? At this point, the whole story is still not known, there is a lot of speculation, and the charge is horrible. Even the worst German tabloid still abridges his last name.

Annie Squidface
6 years ago

Unfortunately, pilot suicide isn’t an unheard of cause of plane crashes. Rather terrifying thought, that.

I also love the rallying cry of these rocket surgeons: “FUCK THOSE SLUTS WHO WON’T FUCK ME!”

Yes, that’s exactly how promiscuity works, and I’m sure had he been married it still would have been a woman’s fault– er, his, rather, entirely his fault. But definitely her, too.

flagalicious
flagalicious
6 years ago

This pathologically obsessive scapegoating of women, without a shred of logic or empirical evidence, is pure Goebbels. Yep, I’m godwinning, but consider: the Nazis weren’t some anomaly from outer space. Their group pathology wasn’t unique to them. It lives on here.

Zolnier
6 years ago

Well it goes without saying how tragic this is and how disgusting Vox is being, but I can’t help but be amazed how these people tie everything into “misandry”.

Scarlettathena
6 years ago

translation: “I don’t know anything at all about this man and his life, but I’m sure it has everything to do with my obsession of blaming those slutty slutty feminists for not sharing their sluttiness.”

(Fun fact: autocorrect does not like “sluttiness” and keeps changing it to sultans – which makes me think of dire straits…)

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
6 years ago

Also, I find it highly problematic at this point to speculate about his motives. We don’t know if this was a murder/suicide, and if it was, it seems to me significantly different from premeditated, planned massacres with guns, especially those targeting women.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

German media have the habit of referring to people by first name and last initial, but English media give the whole name. It’s standard operating procedure. I first read his name in the Toronto Star, for what this is worth.

And yeah, fancy trying to extrapolate a man’s whole sex life based on the last thing he did on the job. These bastards simply have NO shame.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
6 years ago

And maybe also take the photo down.

Myriad
Myriad
6 years ago

I cannot say that I am surprised that Vox Day took that route. Disheartening, yes but not surprised. When someone commits a horrific act, it is simply their fault alone, full stop (I know I’m being captain obvious but apparently it is needed for these knuckleheads).

The MRA really do have a low opinion of men. Apparently they think men have no agency of their own, since it is always women who spur men on to do anything. They can never accept responsibility for anything they do-it’s always some woman’s fault. Ugh, depressing news.

KSRay
KSRay
6 years ago

Bernardo Soares:

It’s Vox Day that’s doing the speculating. The point of this article is that his speculation is terrible. If you have a complaint, complain to Beale.

tinyorc
6 years ago

Blowjobs: not a deeply personal act of love and/or passion between partners, but a commodity in the possession of women that needs to be “distributed equitably” among men. What an utterly miserable way to view the world.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

“But that may be because they have a rather simplistic definition of terrorism.”

For boring legal reasons we’ve been struggling for a definition of ‘terrorism’ here in Europe and the UK over the last few years. There were over 225 different definitions. There still isn’t a completely definitive one but currently the elements are that:

1. The actions must be driven by an ideological, political, religious or similar motive, and;

2. The act must be calculated to put pressure on a Government to change policy.

So that’s why the French prosecutor will have been careful in bis choice of words (and also the political aspect)

So terrorising for its own sake isn’t terrorism in the technical sense. Of course people can use the word in a looser sense, rather alike how people use ‘murder’ as a synonym for killing or ‘robbery’ for any sort of theft, even though both of those terms have strict meanings in law.

[Legal nerd mode: Off]

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
6 years ago

I don’t know about you ladies, but being thought of as a slut by a hateful misogynist totes makes me want to give out blow jobs :/

M.
M.
6 years ago

Moving this over here just to keep the discussion in the right thread:

Am I mistaken, I thought that we still don’t even know anything about the pilot’s motives at this point, right? Vox Day came up with this incel theory based only on the guy’s photograph?!

Yup. At this point, for all we know, he could’ve been an airborne Elliot Rodger or he could’ve been abducted by three-headed plaid-print aliens. Vox just has some need to make everything, everything, about him and his boner.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

What is the blow job quota? Do only single women have to fulfill it since married or partnered women are another’s property? Who enforces and tracks the quota? Do lesbians have to contribute to the blow job distribution quota? Are only HB 8 and higher women required to distribute blow jobs, or are all women subject to it? Do men have to equitably distribute blow jobs to prevent gay omega male violence or are only straight men omegas?

So many questions!

Seriously though, if being incel is the main cause of violence, then why is partner violence one of the most common types of violence? It just makes no sense.

Also didn’t the sexual revolution and second, third, and fourth wave feminism make getting laid easier for men since feminism is partially about not tying chastity into a woman or girl’s worth?

Wetherby
Wetherby
6 years ago

Also, I find it highly problematic at this point to speculate about his motives. We don’t know if this was a murder/suicide, and if it was, it seems to me significantly different from premeditated, planned massacres with guns, especially those targeting women.

I agree with much of this in principle, but the evidence is mounting that Lubitz’s actions were deliberate. Enough evidence has now emerged to suggest that:

(a) he changed the trajectory of the plane so that it was heading straight towards a mountain;
(b) he locked his co-pilot out of the cockpit;
(c) he switched on a five-minute lock that prevented the co-pilot from opening the door using an override code – presumably this was to prevent terrorists gaining access to the cockpit by forcing a member of the crew to punch in the number.

Lufthansa say that it’s impossible that all three actions could have been accidentally triggered in quick succession, and the third seems to be a bit of a clincher.

Obviously, speculation about his motives is another matter altogether, and Vox Day’s speculation is particularly ludicrous because of the total lack of supporting evidence – or nothing more useful than the internet-diagnosis equivalent of phrenology.

Wetherby
Wetherby
6 years ago

presumably this was to prevent terrorists gaining access to the cockpit by forcing a member of the crew to punch in the number.

Sorry, poor wording on my part – I should have added an “originally installed” in there: I wasn’t suggesting that Lubitz thought that his co-pilot had been overpowered by terrorists. (For which there’s no evidence at all.)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

I wonder if our MRA friends will jump on the fact that the pilot subscribed to the website “Wenn Männer Allein Sind” (Literally ‘When men are alone’).

Before they read too much into that they should know that it’s just a forum for amusing photos of men either doing ‘blokey’ stuff like playing with power tools or showing incompetent babysitting skills.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Bernardo sure is giving out a lot of orders today.

Right at the top of the page it says this site isn’t run as a safe space. Why there is a sudden expectation that something terrible not be covered, I don’t know. Covering terrible shit is the whole point of this site.

Hyena Girl
6 years ago

Blowjob distribution? One does wonder how he would see this working, would it be a government program (government gloryholes and some kind of benefit card you scan?) or perhaps a more ad-hoc system where it’s somehow the social responsibility on the part of people that get defined as sluts… somehow? (“Hi! You look unhappy, do you need a blowjob?”)

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
6 years ago

@Bina: True. But I find the German practice commendable, even if it’s not perfect (most media right now give enough details that people who want to will easily figure it out, even if they didn’t read English sites).

@KSRay: Saying that we don’t know about the guy’s possible motives and then writing two paragraphs about murder/suicide and gun massacres is still speculation. I realise that this is about Beale, but David is still taking up the cue about murder/suicide and connecting it to the story as if it were the most likely motive.

A Mighty Teapot
A Mighty Teapot
6 years ago

Um. My understanding is that only the voice recorder has / had been recovered at the point when the French “prosecutors” (difficult to translate because of the odd crossover of roles) offered their interpretation. It is just an interpretation. There hasn’t been anything like a full crash investigation yet, just a bit of evidence that points to a particular narrative. The much-used headline construction of “Fact + according to X” is particularly misleading in this case. The officials claiming that this is what happened aren’t speaking with the same sort of authority that a group of specialist crash investigators would.

Obviously what Vox has done with this information is far worse, but really it’s too early for anyone at all to be speculating or repeating speculation about what caused the crash.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
6 years ago

It just makes me really sad, because I read an article discussing two other instances that to this day are still under contention regarding whether it was mechanical failure or the pilot was suicidal. So likely all the victim’s families are not going to have closure for some time, and to have to see some of this hateful and ideologically driven speculation must be extremely painful for them.

Anna Michelle Bucci
6 years ago

how are they sluts if they’re not more equitable with blow jobs?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

Updates from the comment section of Vox’s piece. Someone posted this link to Daily Mail (so… you know… very very small grain of salt). Go read it a bit, then take a look at what the comment section concluded.

JCDaedalus said…
Looks like you were right, Vox:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3012937/Germanwings-pilot-Andreas-Lubitz-28-praised-exceptional-flying-skills-rising-star-fleet.html

Opening paragraphs: “The co-pilot of the Germanwings passenger jet which crashed into the Alps at 400-miles-per-hour on Tuesday had to stop his pilot training in 2008 because he was depressed and suffering ‘burnout’.

Andreas Guenter Lubitz paused his training with German flag-carrier Lufthansa because he was under so much pressure.

His mother and father only discovered that their son was a mass murderer after they travelled to the crash site with the victims’ families.”
March 26, 2015 at 9:19 AM

Laguna Beach Fogey said…
Of course Vox is right. Why do you people even question him?
March 26, 2015 at 9:31 AM

Yup. A Daily Mail article says that the co-pilot might have been depressed (which I assume is offered as supporting evidence for a suicide), and therefore Vox was right about it being Omega Rage caused by lack of blowjobs.

Why oh why do people even question him?

Falconer
6 years ago

Aw jeez, Beale went totally House, Psy.D. on this guy.

At least, according to the formula of the show, the first diagnosis of the week usually turns out to be wrong.

And Beale doesn’t have even a crappy excuse to be hateful. 0/10, would not watch again.

sn0rkmaiden
6 years ago

As yet there is no evidence that his actions were motivated by misogyny of any kind, and neither side should be speculating until more facts are known.

Rodger, Sodini and Lepine all left extensive writing to make their hatreds known, but so far we have no idea what this co pilot was thinking or feeling. I suspect this has nothing to do with sexual politics.

Vox Day is a fuckwit of gargantuan proportions.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

It’s not exactly baseless speculation that the crash was intentional. The cockpit recording showed him breathing up until the point of the crash and the pilot not being to get into the cockpit means the code to unlock the door was deliberately overridden. Apparently in this model of airplane it’s pretty much impossible for him to have fainted and accidentally overridden the mechanism that would have allowed the pilot to get into the locked cockpit.

Saying that this was probably a murder suicide is not like motive speculation at all.

alaisvex
alaisvex
6 years ago

Shorter Vox Day: strange women lying in beds distributing blowjobs is no basis for a sexual market.

Ælfscýne
Ælfscýne
6 years ago

Well, if he can blame women who wrongfully distribute blowjobs (should that be an actual reason for this crash), then he can also blame other indirect reasons: if humans didn’t use airplanes, this tragedy could have been avoided; if the pilot didn’t need to use the bathroom, this tragedy could have been avoided; if all men were denied education for pilots, this tragedy could have been avoided too. But luckily for humanity, we use airplanes, pilots are allowed to use restrooms if they need to and men are of course allowed to fly planes. As it should be. Women in the West, too, are allowed to choose their partners. As it should be.

The only person to blame in any suicide/murder case is the murderer himself/herself. That being said, we don’t know yet what happened in this case. Not exactly surprised as Vox Day’s reaction tho. He’s a professional finger-pointer with zero self-awareness.

Button
Button
6 years ago

It’s weird* how so many MRAs are against socialism in all aspects of their lives except for whether or not they get blowjobs. Then they’re all about the “equitable distribution of resources.”

* by which I mean “completely predictable but nasty”

Scarlettathena
6 years ago

RE: equitable distribution of blowjobs. Aren’t most of these guys some flavor of libertarian? Doesn’t that mean that you earn blowjobs by being a hero/alpha? Wouldn’t equitable distribution of blowjobs be a form of socialism or communism that they would otherwise abhor?

because reasons
because reasons
6 years ago

Women of the world who commit violent acts would totes not have done so if those evil manwhores would just have been more equitable in their distribution of cunnilingus! Amirite, ladies?!
Seriously, we may never know what happened in this tragedy, but one thing is for sure: Vox Day is pathetic.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

And there are those who argue that these tragedies could have somehow been averted if women had just treated these poor men better.

Every time. Without fail. You could set your watch by it. It’s getting so that every time I hear about something awful or tragic like this on the news, I think to myself, “I wonder how the manosphere’s going to blame women and feminism for this.”

So, basically, according to Vox Day, women need to be giving out sexual favors to men or men will kill people. We don’t know why the guy crashed the plane into the Alps. But what Vox is saying sounds a lot like terrorism and extortion to me.

cretaceouskitteh78
cretaceouskitteh78
6 years ago

I wonder if what these shit stains are ultimately suffering from is a severe case of fundamental attribution error componded by the emotional maturity of a 5-year old? The egocentrism of these defective turds is just off the charts and they seem to have no concept of other people being motivated by anything not involving them. MRA beliefs really should be classified as a personality/developmental disorder IMO.

Shalimar
Shalimar
6 years ago

If only women were less picky and fucked more pathetic people like Vox Day, the world would something or something.

Speaking of picky, Vox Day is the kind of person I can picture on a barstool talking to his buddy:

Vox: “she’s only a 7 1/2. No one would do that. Maybe if I have a few more drinks and she starts looking like an 8, I’ll think about it.”
Buddy: “My standards are low, I don’t mind fucking a 7 1/2, or even a 7 if I’m desparate. But really, she’s a 6 3/4 at best.”
(Vox Day has 3 more drinks, pulls down his pants and begins humping fern in corner)

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
6 years ago

I opened my computer this morning to find the story of this tragic suicide-mass murder. And as my husband and I talked about it, it briefly occured to me that the manurespherians would maybe spin it, facts unknown (as if they mattered), as some act of a rejected male’s revenge, an extreme MGHOW perhaps. But I stopped in my thinking tracks, guiltily reprimanding myself for being too cynical and harsh.

Alas.

There is really no bottom to their depravity.

proxieme
proxieme
6 years ago

Shorter Vox Day: strange women lying in beds distributing blowjobs is no basis for a sexual market.

Except that it totally would be as long as the strange women were all hot and not “too picky”.

ClarionChariot
ClarionChariot
6 years ago

These people are SO contradictory! Women need to put out more but eww! Sluts with their icky vaginas filled with eau de men who are not me.

It’s a lose lose situation for women where odds are they’re going to be harassed, attacked and possibly killed by deranged nut cases.

bekabot
6 years ago

(Vox Day has 3 more drinks, pulls down his pants and begins humping fern in corner)

— because in the interim the woman waiting in the booth had gotten bored and left.

Shalimar
Shalimar
6 years ago

Also, too, even if Vox Day is right and the disturbed co-pilot murdered 150 people because no one would suck his dick, that would make it even worse. You’re a co-pilot for an airline, You make good money. There are thousands upon millions of professionals willing to suck your dick for less than what you make for that one flight. You’re really going to kill yourself and a planeload of other people because no hot woman will suck it for free?

I would say no one is that insane, but we’re talking about MRAs.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Are incel murder/suicides caused by women, or beliefs about women? That’s kind of an important distinction, fellas. They’re not the same thing. At all.

If it’s “beliefs about women”, then I think we can automatically tack “harmful” onto the front of that phrase.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
6 years ago

“You’re a co-pilot for an airline, You make good money”

They’ve just had a 40% paycut after some very nasty wrangling. If we must speculate about motive that would make more sense as a place to start.

CorgiTeaTime
CorgiTeaTime
6 years ago

I want to shout to these manosphere assholes: Not everything for everyone revolves around sex! Jesus H Christ! People, even evil people, can be motivated that things that have nothing to do with blowjobs or getting laid! Just because you’re unhealthily obsessed with sex doesn’t mean other men are!

misstress
misstress
6 years ago

LOL, is this satire? It has to be.

Vanir (@Vanir85)
6 years ago

Women are too blame no matter what, it seems. Either women are not slutty enough (they won’t suck off any man on demand). Or they are are not traditionally virginal enough (they refuse to be men’s little wife-servants).

Apparantly. If women have ANY AGENCY WHAT SO EVER – any crime, violence or mis-doings done by men, is SOMEHOW women’s bloody fault.

It’s goddess-damn-it ridicolous! And these men consider themselves the apex of reason!?

Shalimar
Shalimar
6 years ago

As far as equitable distribution of blowjobs, I’m sure Day is using the phrase because he thinks he is pointing out some way liberals are being hypocritical about equitable divorce or communism, but I don’t understand any point he could be making that doesn’t make him look like an asshole who thinks women are commodities to be divided up by real people.

because reasons
because reasons
6 years ago

@Sparky

So, basically, according to Vox Day, women need to be giving out sexual favors to men or men will kill people.

What about men who *shudder to think* don’t even LIKE blowjobs? Or men who do like them, but not from women? Oh wait, they don’t count because they’re probably not real men anyways.
So real manly men only like the ladiiieeez, don’t have emotions, certainly don’t ever feel suicidal, get laid whenever they want by hot hot slu- I mean, wimminz, but would somehow go off the deep end and murder people without regular bj’s? Yea, I’m gonna go ahead and call shenanigans on his logic.

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