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I feel I need to start this post with a warning. And I hope you will take it seriously. Because someone at Return of Kings, Roosh V’s horrendous Red Pill megasite, has decided to try to write fancy.
And what they have produced instead is some kind of Lovecraftian monstrosity.
So, brace yourself, because you and I are going to read “Bad Things Happen When Women Lead And Men Follow,” by someone calling himself Elrit Frisia.
I will remain by your side the entire time.
Take a deep breath, and let’s begin:
For the largest part of known human history, it has been men who have been the riders of civilization.
And we’re off to a really perplexing start. The … riders of civilization? Men are “riding” civilization? I thought they were all out hunting mammoths and building pyramids and inventing “spread spectrum” technology.
Oh, wait, that last one was Hedy Lamarr.
Anyway, back to the dudes riding civilization and all that.
The luminaries of the torch, the undying flame of kin, brotherhood, leadership, and order.
What? That’s not even a sentence.
It has been because of their innumerable sacrifice as men; men of their family, men of their country, and men of their culture, that we can now enjoy and afford the luxuries of what modest living affords us.
Uh, a sacrifice is one thing. It can’t be innumerable. I think you meant “sacrifices.”
I don’t even know where to start with the rest of this, er, sentence, so I won’t.
But as I’ve written before, something seems amiss in our modern world.
Ok, fair readers, let’s see if you can guess just what that “something” might be.
Did you guess “women?”
SURPRISE! It’s not women. Well, sort of not women.
Ok, so it’s true that “our” women are in an “absolutely unacceptable state,” at least according to Elrit. But, you see, it’s not really their fault. It’s the fault of men for letting “their women” go bad. You know, like when you leave a gallon of milk out overnight. Women are the stinky milk of our modern civilization. And men are the ones who left them out:
Men are responsible for this. It is not women. Men are responsible for their household, responsible for their affairs, and responsible for the state of their nation.
And for their women becoming stinky milk.
Alas, once women become stinky milk, well, the whole society goes to H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks. According to “sermonist R.G. Lee,” whom Elrit quotes approvingly,
Women women women women women I hate women.
Ok, that’s not the real quote. But, honestly, the real quote isn’t much on an improvement:
When women sag morally and spiritually, men sag morally and spiritually. When women take the downward road, men travel with them. When women are lame morally and spiritually, men limp morally and spiritually. The degeneracy of womanhood helps the decay of manhood.
Somehow I can’t imagine that R.G. Lee — a famous fundamentalist preacher best known for an oft-delivered sermon promising that the world’s sinners would face a terrible “payday someday” — would approve of Roosh’s fornication-heavy lifestyle. But what the heck, Lee seems mad at women too, so why not bring him along for the ride?
So, women are degenerate stinky milk. How, oh wise Return of Kings douchebag, did we get to this terrible state?
Walk with me to the Garden. The Garden of the East. About six thousand years ago. One fine noon, under the auspices of cold river air and soft patches of brightly-colored leaves, there lie two: one man and one woman.
Oh fucking hell. Are you serious?
A serpent creases by, sneering and seductive, making jests toward the woman, or so we are led to believe.
No, no, no, no, no. You’re not really going to
The woman seems frightened at first glance, but slowly eases into the serpent, laughing at what the serpent whispers into her ear and paying amusement to its performance.
All right, that’s it, I’m stopping the car. She “pays amusement” to the snake’s performance? You don’t “pay amusement” to a performance. THAT’S NOT HOW WORDS WORK IN ENGLISH.
Anyway, so this unnamed woman in the garden dallies a bit with her amusing snake friend and the next thing you know …
the woman walks along the man, both with a strange fruit in hand
The woman walks WHAT the man? You don’t walk ALONG someone. You walk ALONGSIDE someone.
Sorry, sorry, back to the story
the woman walks along the man, both with a strange fruit in hand, the serpent now seen nowhere, and the skies clouded with darkness and thunder. In a fit of lunacy, the man and the woman both shower themselves in leaves and balk, and take to rummaging across the Garden like utter mad fools.
Huh. So the snake seduces the woman, and the woman seduces the man? Kind of sounds like you’re blaming the woman, not the man, dude.
Oh, and I’m not sure what you think “balk” means, but it’s wrong. (And you use it incorrectly twice, so I don’t think it’s just a typo.)
What we have witnessed is the timeless, bleeding edge of human naïveté. It is a fact of nature that man is at odds not only with himself, but with others: both those above him and those below him, for there are in truth no equals. And for order to triumph, not only must man triumph over himself, but everyone must also triumph for the good of something beyond themselves.
You get a triumph! And you get a triumph! And you get a triumph!
This arrangement can only be sufficiently well-maintained if we obey the wishes of our zealous god: tradition.
What?
Dude, tradition is not a god, “zealous” or “jealous” or any other sort.
It is no accident that the institutions most central to Western tradition have been found in virtually all civilizations worth writing a tome about. They have been dictated to us by the lips of our most highest himself: whether that be evolution or a single, conscious power in charge of designing the universe. It is an optimal ideology that accounts for the nature and sexual strategies of both men and women, and incentivizes them to care after a garden of their own.
Wait, what just happened here? It seems like god basically turned into an Evo Psych textbook about halfway through that paragraph. This is becoming a very strange sermon indeed.
Men hold a very special place as protectors and enforcers of this tradition. So that folly may not rule in those who dare not triumph.
Uh, “those who dare not triumph?” Who the hell are “those who dare not triumph?” What does that even mean? Are you just throwing random words together at this point? Do you not have an editor?
But, we see, that the serpent so loves to play with our wit, and to that end he knows women are the most apt at play, and the easiest to lead far from the narrow gate. And when man trusts more in the warmth of hand of her woman than the path she leads him to, that is when thunder falls from the heavens and the paleness of sky becomes overturned.
Ah, I remember this, this is from Paul’s Epistle to the Slutty Ladies who Cause Ice Particles in Clouds to Become Positively and Negatively Charged Thus Creating an Electrical Field that Discharges in the Form of Lightning Strikes, or Something Like That, I’m Not a Meteorologist.
Anyhoo, so these slutty ladies have been causing all sorts of problems.
And after a long walk through history, it is clear that we have been lulled by the serpent’s song. Spoke once the woman, and the man bent over his knees in order to please.
Huh. Apparently these slutty ladies are into pegging.
We failed to be discriminating in the company of poor ideals, and gave the woman her promiscuous zest with which she later robbed us (and in a fit of divine irony, herself) of our dignity, hoping we would gain power, acceptance, and a serviced libido in return.
Wait, “promiscuous zest” is bad? Uh, doesn’t the publisher of Return of Kings make his living selling e-books on how to have sex with what he might call “promiscuously zesty” women?
And while Roosh doesn’t exactly seem like the zestiest dude on the block, isn’t he, er, a bit promiscuous himself? Didn’t he recently publish an e-book called “Poosy Paradise,” telling the story of how he traveled to “a grisly city in Eastern Romania” in search of, er, a “Poosy Paradise?”
I mean, it seems to me that a dude who literally moves to a city he describes as “a place that no sane man would voluntarily live in had it not contained the best fruit of what the human female species can offer” has kind of disqualified himself as an arbiter of anyone else’s “promiscuity.”
But I digress. Back to Elrit’s little sermon on the evil sexy ladies.
We gave them a voice in the state, a voice in our churches, a voice in our halls of learning, and what has really been heard?
Oh, ok, the evil sexy voting churchgoing teaching ladies.
We’ve heard cries of foolishness, of bad apples and false burglars in the night, but the matter is that men have compromised everything they knew to be certain in order to gain nothing of lasting import.
BAD APPLES AND FALSE BURGLERS IN THE NIGHT!?!?!?!???!
Are you on the drugs, young man? It seems like maybe you’re on the drugs.
Certainly, we have known the pleasures of what women have to offer, and perhaps more now so than anytime else, when they fall off by the numbers into our nimble hands, but yet we hesitate to take more than a few, singly bites.
Singly bites? Singly bites?! WHAT ON EARTH ARE SINGLY BITES?!!?!??
When in times past we would have snatched an agreeable one and faithfully planted the seed of our future castle.
The SEED of our CASTLE?! Dude, castles DON’T GROW FROM SEEDS. People build them. Plants grow from seeds.
Even our own veteran maverick, despite his notable experience with the fairer sex, seems unable to see women as anything else but “a form of entertainment and distraction instead of significantly adding to my life.”
Well, yeah, but that’s because Roosh — the “veteran maverick” being referred to here — is a gigantic douchebag.
There is not much to be done, once we have sowed the seeds of our garden into the rocks.
Wait, I thought you were planting the seed of your castle. Now you’re planting a garden?
In all seriousness, though, I hope you dudes are literally ejaculating onto piles of rocks. The thought of you reproducing makes me shudder. Hell, the thought of you having any sort of sexual contact with other human beings makes me feel vaguely ill.
But let it serve, as a painful reminder, that women are meant to be enjoyed and to be cherished as any other pleasantry, but be careful of where she might stray you along because in the end you’ll share more than the blame and wish you had not followed her deep into the thicket.
Wait, what?
That’s the ending to your post?
What the hell kind of fire and brimstone sermon is this, anyway?
Here you were, working up to what I thought would be a call to swear off evil women, or deprive them of their right to vote, or, I dunno, something along the lines of R.G. Lee’s “payday someday” scenario.
And instead you’re all like, hey, go ahead and “cherish” the “pleasantry” that is woman, just don’t fall into their evil lady thickets?
You guys are terrible at being fundamentalists.
NOTE: I’m thinking this might deserve a dramatic reading. And that if someone delivers a nice dramatic reading, I might have to make it into a little animated video. (Oh, and if you want me to be able to turn your dramatic reading into a cartoon, you should either not include music, or should include the music in a separate sound file.)
What an unmitigated heap of wank. I’d love to do a reading of it but I sort of fear my voice being associated with such codswallop.
Fuck these people, and not in the way they want to be fucked. They really see women as just something “other”, something not fully as human as themselves – to be used and enjoyed, like a tool, like a commodity – something that has no inherent value as a real person, no real thoughts or feelings or true sapiens, no actual right to live free and independent.
There is *nothing* redeemable about Red Pill creeps; they are goddamn *monsters*!
Why is it that women are responsible not only for their own morality, but are also responsible for the morality of men? If women are dragging them down, how about men take responsibility for themselves?
No. That’s asking too much. It’s the women’s fault. /sarcasm
My gods, that was traumatic.
Usually ROK is just irredeemably vile, but this is so SO funny. Still vile, but a lot funnier than most of their misogynist rantings.
That is truly a work of art. We’ve got a future Bulwer-Lytton winner right here.
http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/
Oh, my beautiful, glorious, exquisite English language, what has this horrid tool of a man done to you?
Dammit, I hate false burglars in the night, but I’d never made the connection with those zesty saggy women! It all fits!
I remember that from Blade Runner!
I wonder what Nelson Muntz would say about this.
The hell did I just read?
That… That makes no damn sense. At all.
I would say “Cool story, bro,” except that a) No, no it isn’t and b) I have no idea what his point is. Is there a point in all that drivel? It reads like a case of Wernicke’s aphasia.
Do they hate logic more than they hate women? They seem to be trying to kill it.
UGH. Who lets their students get away with writing shit that doesn’t make sense? I HATE THIS. As someone who has to teach writing in some capacity I’m always having to fight with the kids about how stupid their writing sounds. Start with making small sentences that make sense. Then you can make more complex sentences. And if any of you attempt metaphor, so help me … this isn’t creative writing class!
Sorry. misogyny be damned, terrible writing makes me ranty
PS – I always try to be positive in my commenting (i.e. I don’t actually say their writing sounds stupid)
Not quite. Remember that vaginas, and thus by extension women, deteriorate in quality the more they have sex. Roosh sells books on how to aggressively manipulate vulnerable and inexperienced young women into letting you put your dick inside them for a few minutes.
I’m sorry. I want to say something about all this inane purple prose, but I keep coming back to that picture. The apples all look like disturbingly disembodied boobs. And Eve looks like she’s wishing herself elsewhere, which is rather understandable when you realize that she’s not with Adam, but…urgh…ROOSH.
Let’s see if my incomprehensible-to-English dictionary is up to snuff.
*shuffles pages*
Hmm…. ok, try this.
Women are hopeless creatures on their own, so men need to be in charge. Adam lets Eve out of his sight for one second and what does she do? Get all tempted and introduce Original Sin into the world. But really, it’s man’s fault for being too trusting. If only he would just force woman to do what he says, and not the other way around, everything would be fine. Just look at our rosy view of history; men were men, women were women, snakes were little scheming Satans disguised as reptiles.
Men tried experimenting, and letting women hold positions of any authority whatsoever, but the present is still worse than the past (as it always has been), so might as well toss the whole enterprise.
Even worse, now we go around having sex with beautiful women without wifing them! Is there any more clear indication of how far we’ve fallen?
So, there is one message I’m building up to with all of this, do you know what it is?
… what? “Take back control over women and society, put them back barefoot in the kitchen where they belong, go back to chattel monogamy, and put everyone back into their God-ordained place?”
Pssssshaa ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha ha ha ha! Oh god no, jesus, that’d be awful! No no no, just keep doing what you’re doing, and don’t do anything a woman tells you to do. Then you’ll be fine.
If men are so superior, how can women be held accountable for men’s morality?
Does anyone else have the old Zest soap commercial in their head now? You’re not fully promiscuous until you’re zestfully promiscuous!
Somehow, some way we have to get Michael Shannon to do the dramatic reading.
Zest rinses cleaner than soap! Yup, it’s in my head, all right. The one where they dip a pair of glasses into soapy water and Zest-y water? And only one lens comes out clean.
Oh, those old commercials. If only these guys would bother to learn how to be even half as concise, they might become a quarter as persuasive. But alas, ’tis not meant to be…and we, the lowly women, are doomed forever to run the other way, alternately laughing our asses off and holding our stomachs as we avoid the toils and snares of idiotic men…
I”m going to post this before Paradoxical Intention gets the chance!
It’s the only reaction I can have to something this… whatever this is.
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae251/swebb1/writingishard-supernatural-chuck_zps545977fd.gif
False burglars, what a pain, right? I mean, if you’re going to break in to my house, at least actually steal something. Otherwise it’s just a huge inconvenience for everyone involved.
He’s quoting a preacher? The rhetoric DID sound like 1 Corinthians 11:
“But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, but any woman who prays or prophesies with her head unveiled dishonors her head–it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a woman will not veil herself, then she should cut off her hair; but if it is disgraceful for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her wear a veil. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. (For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.) That is why a woman ought to have a veil on her head, because of the angels. ”
Yeah, that makes no sense either. But the main point is that you ought to keep your wimminz in order, and in the redpill version also use them as you please, like you would other commodities. The Bible offers no explanation, but the MRA add the element of ‘use and toss’, which I suppose is the misogynistic adding of insult to injury.
Either way, I will still be laughing about this in the thicket as I walk along my infinite dog.
Also: is a false burglar like Hamburglar? Like a cartoon who doesn’t really break into houses, but will steal your sandwich for the sake of commercialism?
Bina, yeah, I picked this particular Adam and Eve painting because Adam looked creepy and Eve looked creeped out, which made this Adam the perfect Adam to have Roosh’s head grafted onto him.
These guys need a planting manual. You’re supposed to remove the rocks before you plant anything. Now those poor little seedlings are going to be struggling and root bound, desperate for nourishment. And they’re not even going to tend to the crops later? You’d be amazed what a little compost and some pruning will do, guys. I’m trying to help here. So don’t coming whining to me in the fall when you’ve pulled in your harvest and your crop yields suck.
[I’m choosing to interpret this whole thing as an overwrought treatise on gardening. Because my brain is going to explode if I consider this whole shebang as anything else].
Also, Roosh better watch out. The stag in the painting looks like it’s planning something. That deer means business.