Janet “Judgy Bitch” Bloomfield, A Voice for Men’s pseudonymous PR genius, is definitely an out-of-the-box thinker.
Unfortunately, she seems to be an out-of-the-box thinker in the same way that some cats are out-of-the-box poopers, leaving odorous and disgusting little “gifts” everywhere she goes.
Today I want to take a look at one of her recent gifts: her, well, ingenious attempt to answer the question “How do we make society care about men as much as they care about women?”
I’m going to ignore the fact that even the basic premise of this question is backwards. Because her solution is even more backwards, if it’s even possible to be more backwards than completely backwards.
So what is this solution? Make it a felony for a woman to give birth, if the father doesn’t want a child.
Er, what? I’ll let her explain, because I sure can’t:
I’ve written before about legal parental surrender and allowing men to walk away from children they have contributed genetic material to, just as women may do, but having given the issue more thought, I am convinced that will only lead to increased hatred of men, not less. For a law surrounding reproductive rights to create a society that genuinely cares about men, the law needs more bite. …
Here it comes:
No human child may be born without the on going and affirmative consent of the adults involved.
What? What on earth does this even mean?
Gender neutral and perfectly clear. To give birth to a child without the explicit consent of everyone who contributed genetic material should be a felony and the child should immediately be seized and placed for adoption by the state.
Really? Yes, really:
In the beginning, to be sure, we are going to end up seizing a lot of babies under equal reproductive rights, but it will not take long for reality to sink in: make this choice and you will suffer for it.
I’m pretty sure the kid will suffer, too, but that never seems to be an issue with most MRAs.
So does Bloomfield’s, er, ingenious solution mean that men who don’t want children will be able to force women they’ve impregnated into having abortions? Oh, don’t be silly. They can give birth to all the babies they want, assuming they don’t mind nine months of pregnancy and, oh yeah, having the government seize their babies after they’re born.
[N]o one will be forced into abortions they do not want. If a woman falls pregnant with a child the father does not consent to, she will not be forced to abort that child. She is free to follow her conscience and give birth to that child. She will not be allowed to keep it, but she may give birth to it. Marital status will make no difference. If you do not have the consent of the father, the infant will be seized.
Uh, JB, what about those felony charges? You just said that doing this would be a felony. Is it too much for me to ask that your crackpot solution at least be internally consistent?
Apparently so, since she forgets about the felony bit and moves on to some of the wonderful things she thinks will happen if her proposal were to become law.
The most immediate effect of a law like this is that a market for male reproductive services emerges. A 35-year-old woman that no man on the planet has consented to reproduce with has a choice: she can pay a man to consent to parenthood. His consent means that he is obliged to support the resulting child so his fee will be:
Child support + ongoing expenses over 18 years + premium for looks, intelligence, height, etc.
That could be a very sweet deal, and men will suddenly be rather valued by women who choose to forgo any efforts towards attracting men into a mutually beneficial pair-bond.
The always classy Bloomfield illustrates this last point with a picture of feminist writer Jessica Valenti, a woman whom Bloomfield seems just a teensy bit obsessed with. It’s an odd choice, given that Valenti is married and a mother.
Bloomfield goes on to endorse “the presumption of shared parenting” in the wake of a divorce. This is a bit of an old chestnut with the Men’s Rights crowd, but Bloomfield has some, well, original thoughts about the possible consequences of making this the law.
Wanna break up your relationship? Have at it. But you will not take the children with you.
Really? What if your ex has never shown any interest in raising these children? What if your ex is an abuser? Apparently, in Bloomfield’s world, all accusations of abuse directed at men are false accusations. She skips merrily past this issue and indulges in more fantasizing:
This also creates a market. Let’s say a woman whom no man has consented to have a child with desperately wants children. She will have to prove her worth to the man by parenting his existing children brilliantly. This is gender neutral, of course. A man who wishes to have more children will also have to parent a woman’s existing children very well to prove his worth.
Bloomfield’s repeated attempts to claim that her proposals are “gender neutral” are a bit odd, given that the whole point of both proposals is to punish women. I’m not reading between the lines here: she states it outright.
Women have gotten away with shit from time immemorial because we have the babies. No society can live without us. It is the sole source of our value and always will be.
Wait, what? The only reason women have value is because they can give birth? What about those women who can’t have children?
Actually, wait a minute: if women’s worth is determined solely by popping out babies at regular intervals, why am I even bothering to read a blog post by a woman – a blog post the author evidently thinks is worthless, because it’s not a baby?
A society in which all women are brilliant engineers and not one of them will have children is a dead society.
Huh? A society in which all men are trapeze artists and not one of them will have children is also a dead society. You can’t really have much of a society if half the population works a single job. Or if no one in the society ever has kids.
Reproductive equality is the key to making a society that cares about men as much as women. Equality leads to more equality?
Yep.
Lots of women ain’t gonna like that. Tough shit.
Yeah, I don’t think that “equality” is the reason that no decent or sensible person of any gender is going to like Bloomfield’s “solution” here. Somehow I think the whole baby-seizing business is going to be a bigger sticking point. Hell, even a few of the commenters at AVFM had a problem with that part of her proposal.
So the obvious question is: Does Bloomfield really want the government to go into the baby seizing business? Or is this a sort of “outrage clickbait,” an attempt to garner attention by saying the most outrageous thing she can think of?
I’m guessing the truth lies somewhere between these two poles; it’s reminiscent of Roosh’s “stop rape by legalizing it” post not that long ago. Sure, she’s interested in driving traffic to her blog and to AVFM. But she seems to actually believe at least most of the nonsense she posts. And, for what it’s worth, the commenters at AVFM seem to think she’s sincere.
One thing this clearly isn’t is satire – at least not using any definition of the word that anyone outside of AVFM would agree with.
Indeed, the only way this could be considered “satire” would be if Bloomfield was attempting to satirize the sort of terrible person who would actually propose baby seizing as a way to bring about equality.
But Bloomfield isn’t satirizing that sort of terrible person. She is that sort of terrible person.
I’m picturing the job applications if this law went into effect. Have you ever been convicted of a felony? If yes, please explain.
Well, I was convicted of giving birth.
@Nequam –
If I could upvote that comment I would have.
@sn0rkmaiden:
Trans men can have wombs and can have kids.
But the rest is right. Rape is a crime, a baby is not a crime. MRAs think a woman having a baby and then expecting the father to provide support in one form or another is a crime as well, which is why they think the metaphor works.
Somehow, as much as they think women should “take responsibility” for when they get raped (whatever the fuck that means), that goes out the window when talking about a man accidentally impregnating a woman. All of a sudden the man should not be held responsible for the child he helped create.
Maybe JB just has some stock in private prisons…
Here’s another fun thought… You know how intensely obsessed MRAs are with gender determinism and how each gender as their place in the world? How “separate but equal” is perfectly fine if it’s based on biological differences?
Why is it that they are so angry about women having more choice with regards to pregnancy? It’s just biology, right? The person with the baby inside their body gets to choose if they want to discontinue that pregnancy, otherwise the baby is a child that both a responsible for, right?
Are they trying to rebel against nature?
/somuchsnarcasm
Welp, read some of the comments. JB has clarified things.
I just… *sigh*
*shakes head*
No.
You know, aside from the general horribleness, I’m just struck by how absurd and nonsensical it is. I had to read it twice before I really understood it. I mean, every time she writes about the effects I have to go, “wait… how does what you’re proposing do that again?” Especially when she talks about how it would create a “market this,” or “worth that.” I’m kinda curious what an economist would think about what she’s saying, I have a feeling it would hurt your brain to actually attempt to follow her logic as a serious economic theory.
Which men are actually being denied access to their kids? I don’t know about other countries, but in the US parents who seek partial custody are not typically denied it unless they’re extremely unfit. Even parents who have been found unfit tend to get visitation if they want it.
Seriously. Every one I’ve known who was raised by a single parent was raised as such because they had a dad who chose not to be involved. Except for my friend whose mother died when she was a kid and was raised by her dad after that.
@shietka:
It’s like the only way JB can imagine men being considered worthwhile as human beings is if they had power over another human. Her “economic theories” are just fantasies where women she doesn’t like end up having to beg a man for something.
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Huh. So basically, when JB looks at reproduction laws, she sees women seeking power over men. To balance this, she suggests ways to give men similar power over women. When feminists look at reproduction laws, they see women seeking power over themselves. No need to balance this, because men already have pretty much all the power they could want over themselves.
Kind of revealing, isn’t it?
Actually, I do know of someone who lost custody. It was the mother though. My cousin’s stepdaughter has a mom who is a meth addict who’s been in and out of jail. So her dad and my cousin have custody. So much for the misandric family courts.
I’m actually convinced that this was an attempt at satire, or at least that’s how it struck me. Now, it’s not very good satire as it’s based on one of the conservative myths on why abortion is legal. See, some people think that the right to abortion is the right to “consequence-free sex,” the consequences in this case being babies. Now, for someone thinking this way, it can seem like a woman having an abortion is simply taking a baby away from a man who wants the baby without his consent, so JB is trying to turn it around by saying that a man can take a baby away from a woman who wants her baby, too; therefore, equality. Obviously she, like many conservative types, fails to grasp that the issue is about bodily autonomy rather than forfeiting parental rights.
And she wants the government to take care of all these babies that are seized because their fathers didn’t want them? The same government that these doofuses consider feminized and nannyish? OK player.
@Body crimes – oh, no. JB is hardly the first, and she won’t be the last. The only thing about her that’s at all unusual is how loud she is, and how bizarre she’s willing to act.
I know Bloomfield tweeted frequently from the AVFM conference last year, but was she actually attending? Journalists like Jeff Sharlet talked to her and confirmed she is a real person, right? There are pictures from the conference that look like the pictures she has used online?
Her writing always reads like a man pretending to be female to me.
@Shalimar:
She has a YouTube channel that I’m not going to link and she looks like she does in the pictures she posts. She really is just an anti-feminist woman. Wish those were more rare than they are.
Ignoring JB’s stupidness, a real question (if anyone feels like answering it):
An unmarried couple, unprotected sex, unexpected pregnancy. The person with the uterus wants to have and raise the child, the person without the uterus doesn’t want a child and doesn’t want to support it. Stipulate any other details you think are important.
Does anyone know how this would actually play out in the courts (the real courts, not MRA fantasy courts)? (I know, IANAL.)
How should this situation play out?
I find that I think that way about a lot of female anti-feminists, mostly because my mind can’t wrap itself around the idea of a woman hating themselves and/or other women so much that they’d become anti-feminist, or try to fight against what feminism tries to fight for.
Granted, feminism has failed lots of women in lots of ways (transwomen and women of color), and I understand why those groups would shy away from white, cisgendered feminism.
But when you have someone fighting tooth-and-nail because they legitimately believe that they’re “different from those other girls” and “they don’t hate men”, you have to wonder where they get their information from, and how it got to the point that they were so terribly misinformed.
@ zoon
Can only speak for England but here the father would have to pay child support. That would of course be money for the child, not the mother. Generally you pay child support up to the end of tertiary education (if the child chooses to go to uni). The amount payable is worked out on a combination of the child’s needs and the father’s means. Generally the parents would be expected to chip in 50/50 but obviously that can be varied depending on things like who actually takes care of the child/work patterns etc.
@Nequam
I think you mean stupider, otherwise you’d be implying that Ann Coulter isn’t an idiot.
I can’t wait for her next proposal, that since all crimes are committed by women then being a woman is itself a crime.
@zoon: here the courts would not be at all interested in whether or not the kid was wanted or by whom, since the question is just how to support the existing child/ren, not how to mete out punishment or whatever, which I think is what the MRAs want family court to be– a place where righteous punishment is rained down women who have defied their men.
You know, I’m reading a book about adopted twins. Apparently the system Judgy describes is a thing in South Korea. The stigma against single mothers is so intense that some of them hide out in birthing clinics for a whole year, pretending they’re sick with something else, and the kids get adopted out.
Shockingly, South Korea is not the utopian wonderland Judgy seems to imagine.
RE: Macho Pig
Janet Bloomfield rocks!!!!
Go tell her yourself. She ain’t here.
RE: WWTH
Also, what if a woman becomes pregnant from rape and doesn’t want to get an abortion? Does she have to seek the consent of her rapist?
Don’t be silly! Women don’t get raped! And they don’t get pregnant from that either, didn’t you know the female body has ways of shutting that down? It’s trufax.
RE: David N-T
She somehow fails to see that the distinction that she makes between herself and other women is not made by the men that “support” her.
It’s like anti-vaxxers. The only reason they can believe the bull is because the thing they fight against was so successful they no longer realize its benefit.
to me the more interesting question is what happens when the father does want to parent the child and the mother does not.
That does happen; there’ve been a few recent cases where the mother runs off to Utah, which plays extremely fast and loose with unwed fathers’ consent to adoption, and the results have, imo, been genuinely infuriating.
I would wonder why the MRAs don’t get behind those guys, but as we all know it’s not really about supporting men, it’s about shitting on women.
Wouldn’t this system just mean that all those men who don’t want to pay child support are instead paying extra taxes alongside every other man to support those confiscated babies? They’re basicly punishing pregnant women who’s partners don’t want a child, the children themselves and on top of that all taxpayers. So by this system everyone is made to pay into child support regardless of wether they have children of their own, and it’ll cost more per child cause the goverment will have to pay for the children’s food/clothes/etc and hire people to look after them? Doesn’t sound ideal…at least not to anyone who isn’t a deadbeat dad.
@Ceebarks, I agree, there is something very cruel about not giving a man the option of raising a child who has already been born. Except in cases where the birth father is violent/abusive etc,
I also have compassion for men who don’t wish a foetus they’ve helped conceive be aborted, though in that instance I think the choice must still rest with the mother given it’s her body.
I referred to it in an earlier comment, but what Judgypants and her ilk like to ignore is that with the ‘privilege’ of being able to choose to end or continue a pregnancy, come a hell of lot of risks to one’s health, whether it be carrying to term or having an abortion; babies don’t just pop out like a bagel from a toaster. I can’t imagine any MRAs signing up for pre-eclampsia or an emergency c-section.