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Donate, please! The We Hunted the Mammoth First Quarter 2015 Pledge Drive is upon us

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Not that long ago, We Hunted the Mammoth reached a milestone of sorts. Someone here posted the 500,000th comment to this blog.

That’s a lot of comments. Even more amazing than the quantity of the comments is their quality — excepting, of course, those little turds dropped by passing trolls. I’m amazed and humbled by the awesome community that has grown up around this blog.

I couldn’t do this blog without the support of the commenters here, and the support of all of those who’ve stepped up to help this blog, with their time, their creativity, and, yes, with their donations.

Today marks the beginning of the First Quarter 2015 We Hunted the Mammoth Pledge Drive! Which is another way of saying “several days in which I beg you all for money.”

To repeat my simple pitch from my previous pledge drives: If you enjoy this blog, and can afford it, please click on the “donate” button below and send a few bucks my way. Or, if you’d prefer, a lot of bucks. You don’t need a PayPal account; credit cards are accepted, and there are other options as well. If you’re outside the US, PayPal will automatically convert your weird non-American money into American bucks.

Oh, and the PayPal page will say you’re donating to Man Boobz; don’t panic! That’s just the old name of the blog.

As always, your donations are all greatly appreciated, whatever size they are. They keep the cats in cat food, and enable me to keep this blog going, helping to compensate me for the considerable time and energy I put into it. And thanks to all of those who donate between pledge drives as well! Some of you are really going above and beyond, and it means a lot to me.

I also, it goes without saying, greatly appreciate all the non-monetary things you all do to support the blog, from contributing smart and funny comments, designing graphics, sending me tips on stuff to write about, sharing posts on Twitter and Facebook, moderating comments, and so on.

We Hunted the Mammoth has dramatically expanded its audience and influence over the past year, and I’m hoping this year can be even bigger. If current trends continue, this blog will rack up more than 10 million page views this year; I’d like to make that 15 million.

Right now I post (almost) every day, sometimes more than once in a day; I would like to post a consistent two posts a day, or more, this year.

I have plans for other initiatives this year, which I will spell out if and when I get closer to launching them.

I can’t do any of this without your help.

Thanks!

The cats, I’m sure, would thank you too, if they weren’t cats.

 

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samantha
5 years ago

Can one donate at the beginning of next month, when my cash comes in?

Hambeast (formerly twincats)
Hambeast (formerly twincats)
5 years ago

Done. I would totally pay a subscription fee for this blog! Thanks, David for all you do.

Two posts a day is a great goal, but please take those mental health days whenever you need to.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

But are you going to use the donations to sit around and complain about everything in a very convoluted way and not actually do anything at all?

Because reasons.

[Sits back and waits for someone to come barging in and bark their heads off about David asking so very kindly for donations]

opium4themasses
5 years ago

Asking for donations is pretty ruff. You have to bow, wow, beg, and whine.

Oh? Not that kind of barking?

Amy L Murphy (@LeMurphs)

Done! You do a good thing, and I definitely wouldn’t have the strength to sift through the kind of hellish material you post about here.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I might be able to drop a little into the treasury once I get paid and see how many sales I do tomorrow. If I hit my week goals sure have a few bob from me. ^.^

griffon8
5 years ago

Yeah, I can throw a few bucks here. I like being able to support the things I like.

Meh
Meh
5 years ago

Finally de-lurking to say I donated. Keep up the good work.

QNgm305
QNgm305
5 years ago

Respected Sir (Mr David Futrelle),

I am an ordinary guy who has been researching on gender issues for the past few years, on the media & the internet. I read a lot of newspapers, magazines and books; & also watch TV shows & movies. I have browsed through several misogynist & misandric websites on the internet. I, personally, consider myself to be an ”Egalitarian” or ”Equalist”, and I genuinely understand that there are both good & bad things in modern feminism & MRM movements.

Sir, with all due respect, I understand the genuine difficulties that women & girls have faced throughout history. I also understand some of the genuine difficulties that even men & boys have faced throughout history. I don’t want to sound myself like a conspiracy theorist, but it is true that our modern world has been under the oppressive control of powerful people, global elites, governments, corporations, etc, since a few hundred years ago, and it still continues to happen. Yes, although mostly men have been (& somewhat continue to be) in powerful political positions (with some exceptions & uncertain futures), most modern men & boys of this world (particularly those from the middle-class, working-class & poor categories) are NOT in positions of privilege, power, economic richness, leaderships, & so on.

Of course, women & girls DESERVE to be properly empowered, helped, funded, resourced & so on, but NOT at the cost of innocent men & boys of this world! Both discriminations AND reverse-discriminations are bad. Yes, there are cases where men are misusing the MRM movements in order to carry out misogyny & seek privileges. Yes, even I HATE terms like ”PUAs” (Pick Up Artists), ”Getting Laid”, ”Banging Women”, & so on, as they are extremely discriminatory towards genuine women & girls. I also sincerely hope (& the governments & societies are doing their best also) to empower women & girls in all spheres of life & works, including STEM, Sports, Businesses, Politics, Entrepreneurships, Medicine, Healthcare, & so on. Moreover, women & girls should also be protected from sexual issues & violence.

However, there is a need to understand that not all men & boys are privileged. Human males are still considered to be disposable, by society & governments, because they don’t have wombs, and hence, can’t give birth to continue the species. Also, there are SEVERAL fields of highly-paying professions, works & industries, that are heavily female-dominated; where men & boys are drastically under-represented & under-paid. Some of them are as follows: Fashion, Modelling, Arts, Culture, Dancing, Glamour, Media, Cosmetics, Anime, Gymnastics, Yoga, Travel, Living, Lifestyles, Advertisements, Commercials, Television Shows, Soap Operas, Pornography, Social Media, Theater, Performing Arts, & so on!

Moreover, MOST of the visual & vocal media fields are dominated by women & girls; proofs of which are in the newspapers, TV channels, magazines, ads, commercials, social media websites, internet, etc, wherein MOST of the videos, photos, images, etc, are of MOSTLY women & girls. Also, women & girls are viewed, liked, followed, tagged, etc, much, much more than men & boys, which results in MUCH more ads & revenues for female bloggers, writers, authors, uploaders, models, actresses, content producers, & so on.

On top of these things, we have SO MANY women-only & girls-only schools, colleges, scholarships, funding, social programs, NGOs, NPOs, Government facilities, gyms, clubs, bars, sports clubs, special loans, special entrepreneurship grants, financial facilities, taxis, kiosks, rooms, toilets, hotels, travelling & tourism facilities, education programs, fashion shows, modelling ventures, dancing schools, gymnastics schools, yoga centers, & so on. Just by doing a simple search on Google, we can see a HUGE NUMBER of search results for female-only facilities, while little or nothing for male-only facilities.

Also, a LOT of feminist people & groups HEAVILY support genocides against human males, male population reductions, castrations, emasculations, abortions of only male fetuses, violence only against men & boys, & so on. I don’t want to unnecessarily take names of those people or groups, but they are there. Things like males should be 10% of the human population, to International Castration Day, to #killallmen campaigns on Twitter, Femitheist Divine groups, & so on, are planning doing EXACTLY what radical groups throughout history (like Nazis, fascists, etc), have done.

Then you have things like radical feminism, lesbian separatism, etc, that focus ONLY on destroying the lives of men & boys. Moreover, you have almost ALL forms of media, news, books, magazines, newspapers, internet, etc, including SEVERAL internet websites, like The Atlantic, The Guardian, The Huffington Post, Salon, Slate, Mother Jones, Business Insider, BBC, CNN, The Independent, NY times, NY Daily News, Yahoo!, TIME, etc, that preach, nearly EVERY SINGLE DAY, the following kinds of things:-

The End Of Men; Are Fathers Necessary; Are Men Necessary; Are all men rapists after all; The New World Order; Imagine Matriarchy; Girls Outperform boys in schools, colleges & education systems; Women are better leaders; Women are stronger; Women are better CEOs; Women can do everything, but men can’t do anything; Women are more natural; Women are the fairer sex; Women are better at multitasking; Women have more efficient brains; Women are the superior sex; Women are more peaceful; Women can’t do anything wrong; I bathe in male tears; Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them; Men are the new ball & chain; Women earning more money than men is FAIR; women are better listeners; women can do everything, while men can’t do anything; etc, etc, etc, & SO ON.

How modern men & boys going to even SURVIVE are based on these kinds of depressing, shameful, derogative & illogical forms of media & social propaganda?

Now, you will call me a misogynist for pointing these out. But, to be honest, I have nothing against women & girls achieving their dreams; earning lots of wealth & resources; getting credited & recognized for their achievements, becoming leaders, & so on. My only concern, is that, we should be empowering ALL people, irrespective of their gender or sociological & economic backgrounds, by moving on from the bad things that have happened in the past, rather than unnecessarily carrying out REVERSE-DISCRIMINATION against innocent men & boys of this world.

Thank you sir, for reading this comment.

QNgm305
QNgm305
5 years ago

Respected Sir (Mr. David Futrelle)

Sorry for any inconvenience. I just wanted to correct a grammatical mistake made on the previous comment that I had just posted. The corrected sentence is as follows:-

”How are modern men & boys, going to even SURVIVE, based on these kinds of depressing, shameful, derogative & illogical forms of media & social propaganda?”

Once again, sir, I appreciate your genuine concern for pointing out the rampant misogyny in several MRA & MRM movements & websites. But sir, I kindly urge you to PLEASE understand, that not all men & boys in this world are in privileged positions.

Anyways, can a person donate to your website, even if he/she is not from the North American continent? Sir, are your payment web links secure for online payments?

Thanks once again, sir.

dhag85
5 years ago

Donated. 🙂 Thanks, David.

Scarlettathena
5 years ago

Love this blog and the community of commenters!

I am also so very, very appreciative of your work. I can only read these MRA junk ideas through the filter of snark, and I don’t want to give them any clicks either.

Flying Mouse
Flying Mouse
5 years ago

Donated! Thanks for all your hard work over the years, David. And thanks to the feline overlords for graciously allowing you to do it. 🙂

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Donated! ^_^ I do love this blog and the community.

Pocket Nerd
5 years ago

Cats never thank anybody for anything. It’s against the Cat Code.

Dan Kasteray
Dan Kasteray
5 years ago

My donation is in, dave old boy.

It’s not much but I hope it helps.

Lots of to you and all of the resident mammotheers 🙂

Sarity
Sarity
5 years ago

This blog has grown quite addictive to me. And we all owe you big time for the high emotional cost on your part, David. It can’t be easy trekking through the poison sludge of the manosphere to dredge up those special bits of hilarity for us. I hope my donation pleases your furry overlords.

Nitwit
Nitwit
5 years ago

This is a Beautiful blog. 🙂 Keep it up!

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

WOAH that teal deer wasn’t here when I last commented! And it’s the tealiest deer I’ve ever seen. O_O

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

Wow, big teal deer. I skimmed and saw the words “genocides against human males”, so I feel secure in knowing that nothing of value will be lost by my not reading it.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Spindrift | March 21, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Wow, big teal deer. I skimmed and saw the words “genocides against human males”, so I feel secure in knowing that nothing of value will be lost by my not reading it.

I saw “I consider myself an “equalist”” and I skimmed, then I saw [paraphrased] “Women and girls should be empowered, but not at the cost of boys and men!” and I stopped. It’s not worth tearing it down right now. Anyone else care to try? It’s a rather easy target.

Flying Mouse
Flying Mouse
5 years ago

Yes, even I HATE terms like ”PUAs” (Pick Up Artists), ”Getting Laid”, ”Banging Women”, & so on, as they are extremely discriminatory towards genuine women & girls.

Urgent: How does one tell if one is a genuine woman or girl? Is it a government grade, like the U.S.D.A. meat guidelines? Or does a private organization give you a seal of approval after you pay for an inspection?

If it’s one of those situations where you just pay a fee and can subsequently slap a seal of approval on your shirt, forget it. I’ll go unverified before I support yet another a corrupt, meaningless label.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

What an enormous Teal Deer…Whelp.

QNgm305 | March 21, 2015 at 4:31 am
Respected Sir (Mr David Futrelle),

I am an ordinary guy who has been researching on gender issues for the past few years, on the media & the internet. I read a lot of newspapers, magazines and books; & also watch TV shows & movies. I have browsed through several misogynist & misandric websites on the internet. I, personally, consider myself to be an ”Egalitarian” or ”Equalist”, and I genuinely understand that there are both good & bad things in modern feminism & MRM movements.

Okay, I’m going to try to put aside the nasty taste that “Egalitarian” leaves in my mouth for the moment, and I’m going to say that I’m glad you’re researching gender issues, and I’m glad you recognize that there are good and bad things in feminism.

However, I’m a little leery (or biased) as to the “good” you might have found in the MRM. I’ve yet to see a damn thing.

Also, I wonder how much “research” you can do into gender issues by simply indulging in media, rather than, y’know, analyzing it and talking about it.

Sir, with all due respect, I understand the genuine difficulties that women & girls have faced throughout history. I also understand some of the genuine difficulties that even men & boys have faced throughout history.

With all due respect to you, as a dude (and I’m assuming here that you are a cisgendered dude, feel free to call me out if this isn’t correct), you don’t know shit about being a woman. You may see the “genuine difficulties”, but you don’t know what it’s like, and you never will. Just like I (a cisgendered woman) won’t ever know what it’s like to be male.

Let’s just get that out of the way now.

Yes, although mostly men have been (& somewhat continue to be) in powerful political positions (with some exceptions & uncertain futures), most modern men & boys of this world (particularly those from the middle-class, working-class & poor categories) are NOT in positions of privilege, power, economic richness, leaderships, & so on.

I don’t think you understand: Most men are in a position of privilege simply by being male. Now, they could belong to other oppressed groups (Queer people, People of Color, Transgendered people, ect) And yes, a majority of men are not in positions of power (especially if you go by race or wealth).

I would, however, like to point out a few things:

Most of Congress, the Senate, and the House of Representatives are male. Congress is 17% female. The Senate is 17% female. The House of Representatives is 19.3% female.

So, even though “most modern men & boys of this world […] are NOT in positions of privilege, power, […]”, in the US at least, they’re still making most of the decisions, and have most of the power to influence laws.

Most Fortune 500 Companies are owned by men.

White women (in the United States), make less than a white man does on average (and women and men of color make even less).

While “most men” don’t hold positions of power, it’s not hard to see that men are still in charge of everything. Men in the US have the most standing power when it comes to lawmaking, and they do try to make laws concerning women, who have less than 20% representation in three major groups of government. (And lots of those crusty old white dudes don’t have any damn idea how a vagina works.)

Of course, women & girls DESERVE to be properly empowered, helped, funded, resourced & so on, but NOT at the cost of innocent men & boys of this world! Both discriminations AND reverse-discriminations are bad.

I’m going to stop you there. Women being empowered or being given the proper resources and respect they deserve is not somehow going to damage men. I think you’re referring to Ye Olde Straw Feminist here. Feminists don’t hate men, we don’t want them to suffer, and we don’t want to “take anything” from them (beyond their ‘rights’ to hurt women or anyone else for that matter).

Empowerment, help, and respect are not finite resources. One group getting some of that doesn’t mean another loses out on it.

Also, “reverse discrimination” is not a thing. You can discriminate against those with privilege, but you cannot commit sexism, racism, or any other kind of “-ism” against them, as all of those are systematic structures meant to keep a group of people down, not just a casual, back-handed remark, violence, discrimination, ect to someone in an oppressed position.

I find it hard to believe that someone who has studied gender issues for so long doesn’t know this. Or, at the very least, I believe you haven’t looked that far.

[…] as they are extremely discriminatory towards genuine women & girls. […]

What the frick-frack is the difference between “genuine women & girls” and “women and girls”? Is this some sort of transphobic bullshit, or are you sincerely trying to say that “some of them deserve it because they’re not good enough”?

You might want to think about re-wording that statement.

Also, pro tip: No one cares if you say you love women. So many people have walked in here and done the same song and dance, but in the end, their actions always said otherwise.

However, there is a need to understand that not all men & boys are privileged. Human males are still considered to be disposable, by society & governments, because they don’t have wombs, and hence, can’t give birth to continue the species.

So…men go off to fight in wars, while women’s only worth is in having babies? What is this fuckery?

Men aren’t fucking “disposable” in anyone’s eyes. No one thinks you’re disposable when you run most of the governments, hold most of the wealth, and are more likely to be hired for work.

Also, there are SEVERAL fields of highly-paying professions, works & industries, that are heavily female-dominated; where men & boys are drastically under-represented & under-paid. Some of them are as follows: Fashion, Modelling, Arts, Culture, Dancing, Glamour, Media, Cosmetics, Anime, Gymnastics, Yoga, Travel, Living, Lifestyles, Advertisements, Commercials, Television Shows, Soap Operas, Pornography, Social Media, Theater, Performing Arts, & so on! [cut the next paragraph and a half]

[Citation Needed]

If you’re going to start pontificating on how these industries are “female dominated”, I would like to see some sources.

On top of these things, we have SO MANY women-only & girls-only schools, colleges, scholarships, funding, social programs, NGOs, NPOs, Government facilities, gyms, clubs, bars, sports clubs, special loans, special entrepreneurship grants, financial facilities, taxis, kiosks, rooms, toilets, hotels, travelling & tourism facilities, education programs, fashion shows, modelling ventures, dancing schools, gymnastics schools, yoga centers, & so on. Just by doing a simple search on Google, we can see a HUGE NUMBER of search results for female-only facilities, while little or nothing for male-only facilities.

Why is that, do you think? Do you think it’s because women have somehow not earned those facilities? Or do you think it’s because maybe men haven’t gotten around to getting those facilities sorted for themselves?

Lemme help you out with some of these:

Schools: Most women weren’t even allowed to go to school for the longest time, and we still live in a culture where it’s believed that a man’s/boy’s education is more important than a woman’s/girl’s. On top of this, girls are believed to be “distracting” to boys when we “dress provocatively”. So, we put girls in their own school.

Gyms/clubs/bars/sports clubs/taxis/kiosks/rooms/toilets/hotels/tourism facilities/yoga centers/gymnastics schools: Some women don’t feel comfortable hanging around men when they’re in a public place where they have to get undressed, shower, do their business, or drink. I’m sorry our want for safety is hurting your little fee-fees.

If you want to start a men-only one of these, go right ahead. No one’s stopping you. Or, better yet, if you want these to be co-ed, maybe get on your shit and start a campaign to stop men from being violent and wanting to rape women, hmm?

Scholarships and money: You don’t just get a scholarship for being a woman. There’s a fuckton of other qualifications you have to meet. (Race, grades, entry essays, ect.)

As for the other money things, I’ve never heard of female only any of those. Could you provide some sources?

Also, a LOT of feminist people & groups HEAVILY support genocides against human males, male population reductions, castrations, emasculations, abortions of only male fetuses, violence only against men & boys, & so on. I don’t want to unnecessarily take names of those people or groups, but they are there. Things like males should be 10% of the human population, to International Castration Day, to #killallmen campaigns on Twitter, Femitheist Divine groups, & so on, are planning doing EXACTLY what radical groups throughout history (like Nazis, fascists, etc), have done.

THERE’S the Nazi comparison. I was waiting for that.

First of all, #killallmen was a 4Chan trolling attempt. Let’s not get it twisted.

Secondly, feminism is a huge and diverse group. We don’t have a single leader, nor do we have any sort of structure, as far as I know. There’s usually groups of feminists who don’t hang out with other groups, and there are groups that are quite loud, but are in actuality, minority extremists.

You wouldn’t say that the Tea Party represents all of Republicans, would you?

Then you have things like radical feminism, lesbian separatism, etc, that focus ONLY on destroying the lives of men & boys. Moreover, you have almost ALL forms of media, news, books, magazines, newspapers, internet, etc, including SEVERAL internet websites, like The Atlantic, The Guardian, The Huffington Post, Salon, Slate, Mother Jones, Business Insider, BBC, CNN, The Independent, NY times, NY Daily News, Yahoo!, TIME, etc, that preach, nearly EVERY SINGLE DAY, the following kinds of things:-

The End Of Men; Are Fathers Necessary; Are Men Necessary; Are all men rapists after all; The New World Order; Imagine Matriarchy; Girls Outperform boys in schools, colleges & education systems; Women are better leaders; Women are stronger; Women are better CEOs; Women can do everything, but men can’t do anything; Women are more natural; Women are the fairer sex; Women are better at multitasking; Women have more efficient brains; Women are the superior sex; Women are more peaceful; Women can’t do anything wrong; I bathe in male tears; Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them; Men are the new ball & chain; Women earning more money than men is FAIR; women are better listeners; women can do everything, while men can’t do anything; etc, etc, etc, & SO ON.

Here you go again, assuming that men are the center of the universe, and assuming that these groups speak for all of feminism.

As for your articles: someone sounds upset that they’re not the center of attention anymore.

But, all joking aside, why should it be news that men are good at things when we already assume that they are? News is for reporting things we didn’t know, not for things society already assumes anyways.

How modern men & boys going to even SURVIVE are based on these kinds of depressing, shameful, derogative & illogical forms of media & social propaganda?

By turning women into sex objects and telling us that our only worth is in how pretty we look at any given time, how good our sammiches are, how well we can pleasure our man’s peen, how many babies can we have, and how well we can take care of those babies?

Or by turning all of their anger and negativity inwards and bottling it up, because they’re told that they can’t cry or show any weakness, until it explodes on the nearest person who ticks them off even the slightest?

Now, you will call me a misogynist for pointing these out.

No, I’m calling you a misgynist because you’re spouting a lot of tired MRM talking points and “WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ?!” rhetoric.

But, to be honest, I have nothing against women & girls achieving their dreams; earning lots of wealth & resources; getting credited & recognized for their achievements, becoming leaders, & so on. My only concern, is that, we should be empowering ALL people, irrespective of their gender or sociological & economic backgrounds, by moving on from the bad things that have happened in the past, rather than unnecessarily carrying out REVERSE-DISCRIMINATION against innocent men & boys of this world.

No one cares if you say you love women and want them to have the best if you’re spouting off “BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN” right after that. You’re literally trying to say “Shut up and sit down ladies, because men need help too!”

No one’s denying this. No one here would dare say that men don’t need assistance with some issues. However, you’re trying to make it out like men have the exact same issues as women, or that somehow, our cries for equality are at your expense, when they’re not.

Equality shouldn’t be “Everybody gets everything equal all the time!” Equality should be “Everyone gets what they need when they need it.”

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oKnRwgCavKA/UdyYV-DeeiI/AAAAAAAAAkM/ms9g-JjLUcE/s320/fair+isn't+equal.jpg

The image on the left is “what’s fair”. The image on the left is “equality”.

“Reverse discrimination” is not a thing.

AND FINALLY:

Feminism should NOT be judged on its usefulness to men. Feminism is NOT about men. It’s about women. Feminism can help men, and it does try, but it’s NOT about men. You’re literally reaping the benefits of the side effects.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

I’ll scrape in something by the end of the month. Your blog allowes me to search and keep up with the manosphere filtered through your satire, which is a lot less horrible than diving in head first. You provide a valuable service by keeping your ear in the muckiest of grounds (sorry for the imagery).

Gahh, that wall of “egalitarian” text was like one huge mess of NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED, but I think I’ll just go find my way to my privileged women only toilet and see if it caused more than regular heartburn.

repentantphonebooth
5 years ago

omg the cat in that pic is identical to my cat- can you tell me where that pic came from?

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Through a reverse Google Image Search, I’ve discovered that it’s a viral photo that’s been making the rounds on tumblr quite a bit, and the viral popularity may have come from this Daily Mail article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2887934/That-s-money-kitty-World-s-wealthiest-cats-pose-cash-champagne-HANDGUNS-website-celebrating-one-purrcent-moggies.html

I don’t think I can pinpoint the exact point of origin though. : /

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Damn that cat is ballin’. How’d he get so much money? I hope he’s not some kind of kitty drug baron, selling catnip to the masses.

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

That teal deer just convinced me to make my donation.

My credit cards are on fire at the moment, but I’m getting a bonus in weird (South)American money later this month and I’ll most definitely save a bit for you, David!

I’ll also take this moment to thank you for all your work and for keeping this great community going.

grumpycatisagirl
5 years ago

Fashion, Modelling, Arts, Culture, Dancing, Glamour, Media, Cosmetics, Anime, Gymnastics, Yoga, Travel, Living, Lifestyles, Advertisements, Commercials, Television Shows, Soap Operas, Pornography, Social Media, Theater, Performing Arts, & so on!

Is that a list of Yahoo Directory Categories?

(Anime? WTF).

Scarlettathena
5 years ago

Regarding the teal deer above, setting aside the gish gallopy aspect of the whole rant, it really bothers me when people cherry pick a few articles here and there to “prove” their point. About those supposed articles, I think our teal deer missed out on some of the points, if he even bothered to look beyond the headline. A lot of those articles, like “The End of Men” and articles on girls outperforming boys are hand-wringing, “what about the menz” style whines. There’s a lot of “schools cater to girls but boys can’t be boys” pearl-clutching.

Also. The New World Order? Srsly? I thought that was a male-dominated conspiracy theory. (sigh) It’s hard to keep these things straight.

The article list also fails to take into consideration *all* the umpteen articles, editorials and blogs about men doing man-things. Why lately, a bunch of congressional men brought an Israeli man to talk about men who make nuclear weapons, and a male president rebuked them. And there are science articles, if one cares to look, about how men outperform women on some task.

As for all those fields where women dominate: sure more women use cosmetics, do yoga and like to decorate (lifestyles). Somehow, dances seen as “unmanly” (not the fault of feminists!), but in the performing arts and theater, there are loads of men, gay, straight, bi. The dude really needs to take a look at what is happening in the theater scene!

As for the others: travel? porn? social media? advertisements? Has he actually traveled? Watched porn? Gone on social media? Seen an ad? There are men everywhere!

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

@Scarlettathena

I can only assume that because men are seen as the default and are in almost everything, they become almost paradoxically invisible to men. Cause of male privilege they don’t take much notice when they’re there cause that’s just the norm and how things are, they only notice when non-default types get attention, and then it looks like they’re getting all the attention.

Basicaly, a story about men is a story, a story about women is a story about women.

Fibinachi
5 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention:

I get a chuckle out of the fact that the only time I’ve seen that particular image is when it’s been captioned as “Equality” vs “Justice”… with the sides reversed as to how you use it, and used to argue against feminism (They just want equality! Not justice! Look at what happens when all you get is equality! FENCES!)

Heh.

@ GQnm305:

respected Sir (Mr David Futrelle),

You know, you seldom see that these days. Leading with “respected” is a good touch. I wish more letters started like that. “Sincere Sir XX”, “Handsome Mr. YY”, “Adaptable Ms ZZ”.

I am an ordinary guy who has been researching on gender issues for the past few years, on the media & the internet. I read a lot of newspapers, magazines and books; & also watch TV shows & movies. I have browsed through several misogynist & misandric websites on the internet. I, personally, consider myself to be an ”Egalitarian” or ”Equalist”, and I genuinely understand that there are both good & bad things in modern feminism & MRM movements.

That’s awesome! I wish you the best in your search for knowledge. It’s a bit funny you take time to point out that you are an ordinary guy. Would your perspective change if you had the ability to fly and was, as such, extra-ordinary?

Sir, with all due respect, I understand the genuine difficulties that women & girls have faced throughout history. I also understand some of the genuine difficulties that even men & boys have faced throughout history.

You don’t need to use the phrase “with all due respect” when what you say is in no way objectionable. It’s a phrase used to lessen the blow of something offensive, so as to make it less so, often used in conjuction with statements about plans or future ideas. If you just use it randomly it loses its meaning a little.

“With all due respect, can I have the milk please?”
“With all due respect, honorable sirs, is it possible I may have some salt for my eggs?”
“WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, assistent shopkeeper, I wish to acquire this pair of leggings, may I endeavour to inquire as to the possiiblity of your assisting my purchase of these?”

I don’t want to sound myself like a conspiracy theorist,

I’m sure you won’t! I mean, that’d take going on about some long running global conspiracy against everybody on the planet, masterminded by evil forces hellbent on our destruction. You just said most people have had it difficult throughout history.

but it is true that our modern world has been under the oppressive control of powerful people, global elites, governments, corporations, etc, since a few hundred years ago, and it still continues to happen.

I suppose I can agree with the argument that some people do seem to exert more control over the world than others, I don’t really see that as too objectionable although I would hasten to point out that sometimes people get things wrong…

Yes, although mostly men have been (& somewhat continue to be) in powerful political positions (with some exceptions & uncertain futures), most modern men & boys of this world (particularly those from the middle-class, working-class & poor categories) are NOT in positions of privilege, power, economic richness, leaderships, & so on.

Wait what? Of course they’re not. Leadership positions in heirarchical systems imply limited positions at the top with more the lower you go, generally shaped like a pyramid. I doubt anyone would actually argue that all men at all times in all places are automatically leaders of the world. That’s not quite what “Privilege” means, if I may, it just means that they might still benefit from some situations like–

Of course, women & girls DESERVE to be properly empowered, helped, funded, resourced & so on,

What? Where did that come from? Of course they do, that’s a more equal soci–

but NOT at the cost of innocent men & boys of this world! Both discriminations AND reverse-discriminations are bad.

Slow down a second, you went from no conspiracy to a possible conspiracy to men being left out when women get help, can you stop for a second so we can talk about–

Yes, there are cases where men are misusing the MRM movements in order to carry out misogyny & seek privileges. Yes, even I HATE terms like ”PUAs” (Pick Up Artists), ”Getting Laid”, ”Banging Women”, & so on,

that doesn’t relate at all to privilege and economic possibilities and resource funds! That’s not what—

as they are extremely discriminatory towards genuine women & girls. I also sincerely hope (& the governments & societies are doing their best also) to empower women & girls in all spheres of life & works, including STEM, Sports, Businesses, Politics, Entrepreneurships, Medicine, Healthcare, & so on. Moreover, women & girls should also be protected from sexual issues & violence.

Yes! Exactly! Wait, what? How did we go U shaped from resources to pick up back to res sources?

However, there is a need to understand that not all men & boys are privileged.

I’m not sure anyone would claim that, it’s a weird thing to claim? Of course some people suffer, why wouldn’t they, you said so yourself that—

Human males are still considered to be disposable, by society & governments, because they don’t have wombs, and hence, can’t give birth to continue the species.

What? Did you read the Lucifer Principle and come to the wrong conclusions? That only applies if you’re thinking of society as a strictly monitered sort of being that can consciously make choices about who to sacrifice, and I’m fairly sure human cities are not ant or bee hives so–

Also, there are SEVERAL fields of highly-paying professions, works & industries, that are heavily female-dominated; where men & boys are drastically under-represented & under-paid. Some of them are as follows: Fashion, Modelling, Arts, Culture, Dancing, Glamour, Media, Cosmetics, Anime, Gymnastics, Yoga, Travel, Living, Lifestyles, Advertisements, Commercials, Television Shows, Soap Operas, Pornography, Social Media, Theater, Performing Arts, & so on!

Wait what? Yes? Maybe? How does that relate to male disposability? Also, arts and culture? Gymnastics? Living? LIVING? I don’t think men are underrepresented among the living!

Moreover, MOST of the visual & vocal media fields are dominated by women & girls; proofs of which are in the newspapers, TV channels, magazines, ads, commercials, social media websites, internet, etc, wherein MOST of the videos, photos, images, etc, are of MOSTLY women & girls.

But what does that have to do with resources? Wombs? Male disposability? Keep on track sir, I beg of you that you—

Also, women & girls are viewed, liked, followed, tagged, etc, much, much more than men & boys, which results in MUCH more ads & revenues for female bloggers, writers, authors, uploaders, models, actresses, content producers, & so on.

Are they? Do they? I doubt it. There’s an astounding amount of male youtube stars and online people who do things. I don’t think their inherent “Male-ness” drives away advertisement by way of their ineffable penis rays.

On top of these things, we have SO MANY women-only & girls-only schools, colleges, scholarships, funding, social programs, NGOs, NPOs, Government facilities, gyms,

Yes, of course we do – scholarships help even out some of the accidental sorting mechanisms of history, so–

clubs, bars,

wait, what? Bars? Errr.

sports clubs, special loans, special entrepreneurship grants, financial facilities, taxis, kiosks, rooms, toilets, hotels, travelling & tourism facilities, education programs, fashion shows, modelling ventures, dancing schools, gymnastics schools, yoga centers, & so on. Just by doing a simple search on Google, we can see a HUGE NUMBER of search results for female-only facilities, while little or nothing for male-only facilities.

Male only facilities exist and have existed for a very long time, but it seems weird to use it in an argument about ressources, disposability and the ad revenue of male youtube vlog stars. I mean, there’s a few things here that don’t really add up. Also there might be a reason why female-only facilities are so common across mainly physical activities?

Also, a LOT of feminist people & groups HEAVILY support genocides against human males,

woah, that came out of nowhere. I thought we were discussing ad revenue from youtube!

male population reductions, castrations,

Because this is clearly not ad revenue territory and I can’t imagine a show about these things that could bring in ad revenue. Wait, well, apocalyptic fiction is pretty popular these days. New show idea: “The Last Menz: What About Them?”

emasculations,

That seems very specific. Do I need to take time out between murdering 90 % of the adult male population to insinuate they’re not manly enough?

abortions of only male fetuses,

Look up the Chinese rates of abortion v male / female spread. Weep. Despair. Shudder. Redo that argument.

violence only against men & boys, & so on. I don’t want to unnecessarily take names of those people or groups, but they are there.

But that clearly has nothing to do with ad revenue! And just because we want to murder all males does not mean they’re disposebal, just that they’re so very kill-able.

Things like males should be 10% of the human population, to International Castration Day, to #killallmen campaigns on Twitter, Femitheist Divine groups, & so on, are planning doing EXACTLY what radical groups throughout history (like Nazis, fascists, etc), have done.

It is an odd sort of argument that includes bars, cafes rooms, male genocide, youtube ad revenue and a side-discussion on the specific of goddess-centric feminist divine epistomology.

Wait, no, unless you mean that young lady who argues on youtube that killing men is a good thing? I wonder what her ad revenue is. Probably higher than mine.

I’m not on youtube.

Then you have things like radical feminism,

That is a thing.

lesbian separatism,

That is also a thing.

etc,

That might be a thing?

that focus ONLY on destroying the lives of men & boys.

I’m pretty sure that is not what those things do. Lesbian seperatism isn’t really about men except in the technical sense, it’d be like saying that the moon landings are about escaping Earth rather than getting to the moon. Also it’s terrifying and weird to say that lesbian seperatism is out to destroy the lives of men, I mean, come on, that’s two steps short of saying that all women need to date men at all times because their function is to be breed-able and when they opt out of that system they’re detroying men’s lives.

Also I thought men where disposable, because of their lack of wombs? Wouldn’t that same argument apply to lesbian seperatists who opt out of giving birth? Your terms are confused.

Moreover, you have almost ALL forms of media, news, books, magazines, newspapers, internet, etc, including SEVERAL internet websites, like The Atlantic, The Guardian, The Huffington Post, Salon, Slate, Mother Jones, Business Insider, BBC, CNN, The Independent, NY times, NY Daily News, Yahoo!, TIME, etc, that preach, nearly EVERY SINGLE DAY, the following kinds of things:-

It is a strange mind that goes from ad revenue to genocide to a specific youtube opinion-person to lesbian seperatism to qouting specific headlines.

The End Of Men; Are Fathers Necessary; Are Men Necessary; Are all men rapists after all; The New World Order; Imagine Matriarchy; Girls Outperform boys in schools, colleges & education systems; Women are better leaders; Women are stronger; Women are better CEOs; Women can do everything, but men can’t do anything; Women are more natural; Women are the fairer sex; Women are better at multitasking; Women have more efficient brains; Women are the superior sex; Women are more peaceful; Women can’t do anything wrong; I bathe in male tears; Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them; Men are the new ball & chain; Women earning more money than men is FAIR; women are better listeners; women can do everything, while men can’t do anything; etc, etc, etc, & SO ON.

You repeated “Women can do everything” twice. I bet a woman wouldn’t have.

How modern men & boys going to even SURVIVE are based on these kinds of depressing, shameful, derogative & illogical forms of media & social propaganda?

Well apparently lesbian seperatism destroys their lives, so I guess they won’t survive? Possibly they will survive because “Are fathers necessary?” doesn’t lead directly to male genocide, you need a youtube ad revenue discussion for that.

Now, you will call me a misogynist for pointing these out.

No I won’t.

But, to be honest, I have nothing against women & girls achieving their dreams; earning lots of wealth & resources; getting credited & recognized for their achievements, becoming leaders, & so on.

That’s great.

My only concern, is that, we should be empowering ALL people, irrespective of their gender or sociological & economic backgrounds, by moving on from the bad things that have happened in the past, rather than unnecessarily carrying out REVERSE-DISCRIMINATION against innocent men & boys of this world.

Reverse-discrimination is just discrimination. That’s what the word means. “Reverse sexism” isn’t actually a thing, it would just be sexism. And the reason you’re a misogynist, albeit an oddly earnest one, is that you seem to think cafes, bars and sport facilities are the same as youtube ad revenue is the same as calling for mass male genocide are the same as discriminating against men!

Thank you sir, for reading this comment.

No problem, it was my pleasure.

Spindrift
Spindrift
5 years ago

I’m really quite curious about how lesbian seperatists are destroying men’s lives. Have they developed pills that turn straight married women into lesbian seperatists? Have they invented a raygun that gives men bonersads? Are they taking over? Did my feminist friend Katie provide them with their laser technology? Will men be enslaved and forced to toil in their underground tampon mines?

I, for one, welcome our new lesbian overlords.

Sarah
Sarah
5 years ago

Done! I love this blog 🙂

ktrantingredhead
5 years ago

I gave you a dollar. I’m very poor.

Pocket Nerd
5 years ago

David, have you considered setting up a Patreon account?

proxieme
proxieme
5 years ago

I just threw a bit in.

It’s not much, but should hopefully be enough for some lovely ScentedFuckingCandles™ to burn whilst researching and posting.