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Candid photo of Davis Aurini, white nationalist on paper

Aw, who's a little racist? You're a little racist! Please poop on the paper please.
Aw, who’s a tiny racist? You’re a tiny racist! Please poop on the paper please.

Davis Aurini, the bald half of the Sarkeesian Effect brain trust, has famously declared himself “a huge white nationalist on paper.”

The candid photo above, which I definitely did not assemble using photoshop ten minutes ago, reveals that this is not entirely true. He is, in fact, a tiny white nationalist on paper.

NOTE: When I say that I “definitely did not assemble [this photo] using photoshop ten minutes ago,” this should be taken to mean that, yes, I did in fact assemble this photo using photoshop ten minutes ago. I spent a few minutes of this lovely spring day crudely photoshopping a swastika armband onto a puppy. This is the sort of sacrifice I make for this blog.

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Paradoxical Intention
6 years ago

Oh gods above. He seems like the type of dog that would shit everywhere out of spite.

Who Knows (@ShiraMK)
6 years ago

He’s less creepy with dog ears and nose.
http://i.imgur.com/rnJw41H.jpg

blue collar nerd
blue collar nerd
6 years ago

Still creepy as fuck.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Davis reminds me of Marcosias from Rise of Nightmares
http://thegamingliberty.com/wp-content/uploads/riseofnightmares_dog.jpg

Spindrift
Spindrift
6 years ago

Now all those ridiculous claims that feminists want to castrate men make a little more sense, they’re afraid they’ll be neutered.

Film Runner
6 years ago

I like to think Aurini visits this blog from time to time, just to see what we think of him.

FrieVonFrieburger
FrieVonFrieburger
6 years ago

He’s totally a compulsive self-Googler.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Needs a muzzle.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

What did an innocent pug ever do to get faux Lavey’s head put on it’s body?

AllisonW
AllisonW
6 years ago

This is a good look for Aurini. The only way it could be better is if the body were a maltese or chihuahua or some other toy dog that thinks it’s hot shit when it’s scarcely taller than your ankles.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
6 years ago

As a dog person and a roommate to a dog, I have to point out that unlike Aurini, dogs know not to shit where they eat. Also, this is the first face on a dog I’m not tempted to press my own face against,

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

So this is the first time I actually watched the “on paper” video, to get some context as to what the hell that means.

Long story short? He’s a “nationalist” that thinks every broad categorization of person is basically a separate species of human, so he agrees with the theory of white nationalism, but in practice he doesn’t like how white nationalists are so dang racist.

Yeah.

Basically, he wants to everyone to live separate but equal, each to the country of their race, and to interact with each other as if interacting with an alien species. Trying to work together and learn things, but ultimately stay completely separated.

He doesn’t like when white nationalists take glee in wanting to kill off other species. In his (paraphrased) words, if WNs intellectually came to the conclusion that black folks were an inferior species of human that should be wiped out, they should feel a sense of loss at what they would have to do if they were decent human beings.

Having fun yet?

Apparently the reason he hates “leftism” is because he swallowed the whole spiel about leftism being about professional victimization. He thinks that species on the left want to blame other species of human for their own problems, and use a history of mistreatment to justify violence, instead of wanting to work towards bettering their own species.

In his words, “preferring your own race is normal,” but “hating other races is pathological.” And you can bet your booties that he’s talking about the anger in the black community as “hating whitey” just as much as he’s talking about the white nationalists that “hate blackie.”

Delving into this guy’s philosophy is just bizarre. I finally sort of understand what he’s actually talking about, but the foundations are so alien to the ones of my philosophy that I can really only shake my head and go “no, that’s all wrong, what the hell is wrong with you?” Fractal wrongness isn’t even a strong enough descriptor anymore.

This is Aurini’s white nationalism on paper. A man sits in front of a camera, gesticulating wildly with a cigarette he only occasionally puffs, a whisky glass he only occasionally sips. A man who has to juggle the things in his hands even as he juggles the throughts in his head, believing something coherant came out. A man who resides in, and communicates from, the Twilight Zone.

… White nationalist edition.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

I’m now reading through the comment section, for funsies, and I’m following a very long, very detailed discussion on how to partition the world so that every species of human can have their own homeland, and how to get everyone to move to the right place. Apparently the Americas are the de-facto “multicultural” place where people can go if they want to live with other species.. Isn’t that nice?

I use species on purpose… I feel like I have to mentally replace every country-turned-species-descriptor with something from a fantasy world where there are literally different species of sentient organisms living together. That’s the only way I can make things make sense to me.

BUT EVEN THEN their “solution” to… something… actually I’m not sure why they’re suggesting this at all in the first place… is basically just “welp, we tried having multiple types of people living in the same place and wouldn’tcha know, it didn’t work out. Oh well, better scrap the whole thing and go home.”

Actually, the fantasy world is a frighteningly good metaphor for this… It’s super common for fantasy creatures to all have their own homeland that embodies their species’ biological traits, with the “multicultural” areas being the playable world but in some sense not the norm. And they think that human beings are like this.

This is making me kind of depressed about fantasy worlds…

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

“On paper”? What paper has he written his fascinating little anti-leftist theories upon? He even uses the n-word on video, not paper, and you can tell he’s being neither sarcastic towards other white people who say that, nor citing someone else who said that, nor reading from Huckleberry Finn. He says that word, he MEANS that word. He does not like black people, and there’s no “on paper” about it.

Dude’s a straight-up racist and fascist, plain and simple.

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
6 years ago

Don’t tell Aurini, but he looks like more of a (gasp!) beige nationalist.

Bina
Bina
6 years ago

Oh, and he’s too fucking cowardly to just admit he hates black people. That’s what makes him extra-specially contemptible. If he had the nerve to admit he hated them, I’d still despise him, but it would be at least one thing I could kinda-sorta respect about him. The fact that he lacks the vertebrae to admit what he’s really thinking and feeling is what makes me just want to wash my hands at the sight of him, because it always makes me feel like I’ve been slimed somehow.

Mewens
Mewens
6 years ago

Kirby, if I had a dollar for every time some nerd* spouted a line like, “I’m not racist, but hear me out – racism makes sense in a fantasy world …” in an uninvited, non sequitur response to a discussion about race … well, I’d be able to afford a servant who’d type out my replies for me.

But, man. Widdle puppy still can’t make Aurini’s smirk tolerable.

*I know, I know. Stereotyping? Maybe. But I’m pretty confident that a person who invokes Dungeons & Dragons as a model for race relations is a nerd. Like, Occam’s Thinnest Razor Ever.

LBT (with open writeathon!)

RE: kirbywarp

This is making me kind of depressed about fantasy worlds…

Yeeeeah, it’s why a lot of epic fantasy in the Tolkien vein makes me uncomfortable. It feels like a really creepy racist analogy, a lot of the time.

Also, damn is it sad that MRAs keep making my tongue-in-cheek story about genders dividing themselves down the Mississippi River something intended to be serious and intellectual. What about multiracial people? Are they just trapped in America FOREVER?

Seriously, the whole “races are like alien species” bullshit needs to die. That shit was old back in phrenology’s day. Just because YOU act like an alien doesn’t mean the rest of us do, Aurini.

Also, I have to know… which races get Lichtenstein and Trinidad?

LBT (with open writeathon!)

RE: Mewens

But I’m pretty confident that a person who invokes Dungeons & Dragons as a model for race relations is a nerd.

*rubs temples* Ugh, what irritates me so much about that is there’s a much more simple, obvious explanation than, “D&D is right!”

D&D was pretty much ripped wholesale from Tolkien. Tolkien was a white dude in England in the 1940s. I think it’s safe to say dude probably mirrored his fantasy world in some ways off the segregated world he existed from.

Now, do you REALLY want to model your world entirely off the fantastic imaginings that was so heavily inspired by THAT ERA OF TIME? Seriously?

Paradoxical Intention
6 years ago

Seeing racism in my fantasy worlds always makes me want to pick up a sword and run to the defense of those being hurt by it.

I can’t tell you how much I hate Ulfric Stormcloak for his treatment of the Dark Elves in his city, and then there’s the whole issue that Kajhiits aren’t allowed in any of the cities, unless it’s the player character. I mean WTF? Shouldn’t there be at least a small side quest where the player character has to prove that they’re worthy of entering the city at least for the sake of consistency? Or some side quests trying to combat the racism and nord-centric attitude in Skyrim?

I’d like that very much, please.

Admittedly, the only reason I’d ever put Ulfric Stormcloak on the throne is to keep Riften out of the hands of Maven Black-Brier. I loathe her just as much, if not more.

Especially when she threatens me with my own fucking guilds. You can’t call the Thieves’ Guild or the Dark Brotherhood on me, Black-Brier. I run that shit.

I would also like an option to cut ties with Maven once you become the head of either guild. Her daughter’s the only one of her brood worthy of doing anything, in my opinion. Clever girl.

Mewens
Mewens
6 years ago

As much as I love the Lord of the Rings novels, every time I get to the Southerners … I kinda just nope past ’em.

I mean, I can EPIC MYTHOLOGY hand-wave away there only being like three elf-human pairings ever; I can fairy-dust rationalize dwarves’ and hobbits’ mating habits. But the Southerners? The reason that they come across as some proper Englishman’s fever dream of exotic evil … well … I don’t want to be too on the nose, but it’s obvious, isn’t it?

I have the same deal with Lovecraft. Guy gives us the gauzy sublimity of “Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath” and the rollicking pulp of “Shadows Over Innsmouth,” then turns around and casually drops absolutely idiotic racial commentary in “The Rats in the Walls” and “The Reanimator,” and it just kills the whole vibe. I won’t read his stuff in public anymore; I’d rather tell strangers about my love life than broadcast that I have one of his collections.

LBT (with open writeathon!)

RE: Mewens

Really, I just want fantasy as a genre to stop digging up Tolkien’s grave. It’s tedious. I’m glad to see that the genre seems to be changing, but seriously guys, it’s been fifty years. Let the poor man go.

(But then, I was always more of an Oz kid myself, which is all about nonhumans being sapient and worthy rulers, friends, and companions. Oh and little girls being fucking badasses.)

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

I postulated on the connection between fantasy and reactionism in this comment. In short the use of fantasy/medieval imagery is absolutely rife in reactionaries, probably because their ideology requires a return to a “better” and “purer” age when there is clear good and evil and everyone knows where they stand. It’s why fantasy races make me uncomfortable and bored these days and I prefer human-only stories–or alternately ones with truly alien beings who are distinguished by more than cultural differences and prosthetic noses.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
6 years ago

You’ve all heard of the Iron Dream, right? (Basically, Hilter writes a horrible fantasy novel.) I tried to read it, but couldn’t get through it–it is so disgusting, and also poorly written. But you know, narratives take up aspects of the culture that produced it. I definitely am much more emotionally fond of royalty than I am intellectually, and I blame fantasy.

(If you want a happy-making fantasy about a truly good person–who happens to be a king–I recommend The Goblin King. No, there are no humans–there are goblins, and elves, and mixed-race people, some of whom end up on elven thrones.)

I grew up with fantasy so much that I have fantasy and SF dreams.I dreamed last night that I was an older (than myself–mid-thirties, maybe) married woman who was kidnapped with my family and a bunch of strangers into this weird mansion and then our attempts to escape ended up summoning a dark-lord character whose specialties were mind control and body horror.

It was weird as fuck, and I knew I was dreaming for half of it.

So in conclusion: fantasy worlds as scary as fuck, at least when I dream about them, but I’ve also dreamed about volcano apocalypses and broken car brakes multiple times, so maybe my dreams don’t count. I have really bizarre stress dreams.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
6 years ago

Wait–the book rec is The Goblin Emperor. I was just thinking of a certain other goblin king, and his tight, tight pants.

Tight pants.

th1stle
th1stle
6 years ago

Aaaaand, another picture for the nightmare fuel bank!

“White nationalist” is such a cop-out term — he’s a white supremacist. Just another white, privileged, middle-class man stomping all over everybody who isn’t because he thinks his brain is a superior specimen. In truth, he’s a mad little boy in the body of a man. And unfortunately, with the internet, he has a platform in which to spew s*** to an audience of his like-minded peers.

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

Speaking of uncomfortable reading, I see your Davis Aurini and raise you Elliot Rodgers. I’ve been reading his “manifesto” which so far is a rather poorly-written autobiography consisting of a parade of names and houses and childhood obsessions. On my last read I went as far as the start of his adolescence where he assures readers that his happy childhood is over and the real tragedy begins, and it was a shock to realize that this is past the midpoint of his very short life.

One thing that struck me about the mundane details of Rodgers’ childhood is how, well, mundane his life was on the surface. It’s a life with more privilege than most, with homes in posh neighborhoods and celebrity acquaintances and nannies and travel overseas, but it’s also about divorce and family strife and childhood pastimes and wanting to belong, to stand out. Dial down the wealth level and this could be a lot of people’s lives.

It wasn’t until I’d taken a step back from the material that I realized what was missing: a discussion of any kind of inner life for any of the people who are in or pass through Rodgers’ life. He actually has positive things to say about women, from his mother to his nannies to his homeroom teacher, but only in relation to how they fulfill his needs and never as people with separate existences of their own. His mother always bought him whatever he wanted, his stepmother disciplined him in ways he thought she had no right to, his nannies and teacher were kind to him. That’s it. No thoughts about how the divorce affected his mother’s life, or about how his stepmother felt about her stepchildren, no details of any sort about the nannies or teacher outside of their names. Only how they treated him and how that affected him.

His discussion of male figures is not much better–he does go a little more into their individual characteristics in addition to how they treat him, but only so far as it makes them high-status or not. The only comment he made so far about how the divorce impacted his father was how soon he got a new girlfriend afterward and how that raised his esteem in his young son’s eyes. Still no inner life of any sort for anyone but the villain-protagonist.

Maybe it’s not surprising that Rodgers’ own inner life is curiously lacking. The only things he seems to care about as a child are comfort and status. He chases one childhood fad after another, from Pokemon to skateboarding hoping it’ll turn him into one of the cool kids. There isn’t even any indication of interest in these things in of themselves, outside of how they would reflect on his social standing.

And I think anyone would understand that desire to be cool and accepted, which is why the mass killer’s childhood seems so mundane. At the same time there’s a strange emptiness in a life where nothing and no one exists outside that very human thirst, which is what makes the account disturbing.

I have a depressing idea where all this is going, even aside from the conclusion that made it to headlines around the world. Girls and women will be Rodgers’ ultimate gambit for status, replacing Pokemon and hacky sacks. And when they fail to ”work” properly he will turn on them as he might on a defective skateboard–as things that have failed to fulfill their functions. The true horror of Elliot Rodgers’ narrative may lie in how drearily familiar it is.

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

@wordsp1nner

You’ve all heard of the Iron Dream, right? (Basically, Hilter writes a horrible fantasy novel.)

I read the American Nazi Party placed it on their recommended reading list, because evidently being a reactionary requires a deep lack of genre savvy and a certain tone-deafness to satire.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

The problem with trying to do any sort of racism metaphor in a fantasy world with races of completely different species is that it basically plays into the hands of the Davis Aurinis. The most important thing for men like him is the core belief that human races are fundamentally alien to each other. When they interbreed (and yes, they would think of it as interbreeding rather than just… breeding…), the results are treated as bizarre as half-orcs in fantasy.

No matter how good of a message you try to impart by likening race relations between people and between fantasy species, it will still boil down to reinforcing that idea that people with dark skin and people with light skin are fundamentally different, as different as elves and dwarves. It still fails to attack the underlying assumption that is crucial to their worldview.

kmcorby
6 years ago

Oh, pugs are so cute, it’s a shame to defile a pug with that face.

kmcorby
6 years ago

Sociopath. Other people aren’t people, only tools to them.

Nequam
Nequam
6 years ago

You’ve all heard of the Iron Dream, right? (Basically, Hilter writes a horrible fantasy novel.) I tried to read it, but couldn’t get through it–it is so disgusting, and also poorly written.

Now there’s a case of Stylistic Suck working perhaps *too* well. Norman Spinrad is actually a pretty entertaining writer and much better than The Iron Dream would indicate.

d_dan
d_dan
6 years ago

@kirbywarp
nice wrap up about that sad white pride dudes (that wants so badly to be an academic but couldnt even get a bachlor) world view..

“Basically, he wants to everyone to live separate but equal, each to the country of their race, and to interact with each other as if interacting with an alien species. Trying to work together and learn things, but ultimately stay completely separated.”

I would say that this opinion from the pug-man comes from McCullochs hate theory about that humankind should be separted as completly different kind of species…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_McCulloch

amadangelandme
amadangelandme
6 years ago

At one point in the video he starts talking about the “White Birthright” and how it´s being taken away (?!). I stopped watching at that point, I couldn´t stand it any longer. That´s really messed up.

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

@th1stle

“White nationalist” is such a cop-out term — he’s a white supremacist.

Agreed. His protestations to the contrary don’t work even under the terms he set himself. If he deplores the way white nationalists on more than paper (* snort *) are doin it wrong, then maybe he could take 5 seconds to think about why no one can seem to get white nationalism “right” on the actual Planet Earth, with the history we have and the way humans act. The obvious conclusion is that race separatism CAN’T be equal and humane in the real world as it exists and should be abandoned for the horrifying ideology it is.

It’s much the same for libertarianism on the right and Communism on the left, and all sorts of radicalism, cults and so on–philosophies that look nice on paper and could theoretically work out fine on some world that is not our own, but do not work in the actual world as it exists. To pretend otherwise is to ignore the reality others live in. This kind of reality-erasure has been a tool of abuse and repression for as long as human society existed, and is just as toxic when the stated motivation is clueless idealism.

Film Runner
6 years ago

@PussyPowerTantrum

Does Rodgers at any point demonstrate empathy for someone else?

th1stle
th1stle
6 years ago

I accidentally posted this to the wrong comment section, so I’ll try again:

Davis’ new look is based on Billy Zane’s character from Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight, yea or nay?

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuuYJ6pvl68&w=560&h=315%5D

Wetherby
Wetherby
6 years ago

Maybe it’s not surprising that Rodgers’ own inner life is curiously lacking. The only things he seems to care about as a child are comfort and status. He chases one childhood fad after another, from Pokemon to skateboarding hoping it’ll turn him into one of the cool kids. There isn’t even any indication of interest in these things in of themselves, outside of how they would reflect on his social standing.

This is what really struck me about his “manifesto” – as you say, the lack of any real passion. I vividly recall my teens as pursuing one cultural interest after another, practically living in the local public library and independent cinema, attempting (albeit never remotely mastering) multiple musical instruments, you name it. I didn’t remotely care what the “cool kids” thought, because I knew I wasn’t one of them and I knew that I didn’t want to be one of them.

Not least because I quickly realised having a genuine passion for things like books, films, plays, music etc. meant that I never had much difficulty striking up conversations with the opposite sex anyway. And only one of my various girlfriends came across as remotely “cool” in public – and when we started living together, I quickly realised that it was largely a façade that took a fair amount of effort to keep up. (This wasn’t remotely a deal-breaker, of course: I hardly thought less of her for turning out to be completely normal, especially when it turned out that the façade was at least partially designed to repel people that she wasn’t interested in.)

And this is the real damage that toxic masculinity does – it actively pushes men in the exact opposite direction from the goals that they claim to want to reach. Being a decent human being, treating other people as decent human beings (at least until they demonstrate otherwise), developing interests because you’re interested in them and not because they’re part of a fleeting craze – these are very very simple principles and they’ve done me no harm whatsoever. I love it when MRAs try to convince me that they’re right and I’m wrong, because what do they have to offer me that I don’t already have? I even had one try to convince me that my decade-plus, blissfully happy marriage was almost certainly on the point of collapse because my wife was an evil duplicitous feeeeeemale who was guaranteed to be checking out the local “bad boys” behind my back – a notion so hilarious to anyone who knows her that it made me laugh out loud.

Incidentally, what happens to the offspring of people of different races in Aurini’s utopia? Compulsory deportation to the US?

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

@Film Runner

Does Rodgers at any point demonstrate empathy for someone else?

Surprisingly, I just stumbled on the first instance of it! It happened at 11 years of age and concerned James, his best friend from childhood. (I really wish he hadn’t named these people, because they don’t deserve to be scrutinized for their association with a mass murderer. I’ll redact James’ last name here, at least.)

Quotes from Elliot Rodgers’ manifesto below, use caution. There is nothing objectionable in the passage itself–in fact it may be the most humane and relatable part of the whole work–but these are still his words.

[My mother] told us [Rodgers and presumably his sister] the dire news. James’s mother, Kim [last name redacted], had just passed away from breast cancer. I cried for a bit. Kim was a very kind-hearted person, and the mother of my best friend. She had been suffering from breast cancer for several years, but I never thought she would die from it. I immediately thought of how James must be feeling. He just lost his own mother! It made me think of how horrible I would feel if the same thing happened to my own mother, just the thought alone filled me with pain.

There was to be a get-together of family friends at James’s house that night, in honor of Kim. On the way, I thought about how I would approach James on the subject. The amount of grief he must be feeling… I couldn’t even imagine it. The last similar experience was the death of my grandfather, and I was only four years old then. When we arrived, I looked for James, and found him sitting in his room. I gently offered my deepest condolences for his loss. He remained very strong, obviously hiding his emotions. He looked very sad, in an extremely stoic sort of way. He told me he fully accepted what had happened, that his mother was dead and that was the end of it. That was all we spoke on the matter. We tried not to think about it for the rest of the night, and later on I played tag in his backyard with him and some of his friends.

(quote from pp. 29-30 of Rodgers’ manifesto)

I extended the quote beyond the parts where Rodgers showed empathy toward James, because I think it’s a sad illustration of how men, even from childhood, are encouraged to hide their feelings and keep a “strong” front.

I’m honestly not sure what to make of this passage, because it’s such a contrast to his total disregard for everyone else’s feelings and inner lives outside of how they might serve him. I want to believe that it’s real, if only because it would make him all the more culpable if he were in fact capable of empathy and chose not to exercise it.

I wouldn’t put it past him to have retconned these feelings, of course, to make himself seem more human and sympathetic. I suspect this partly because there’s no follow-up to James’ loss and Rodgers’ feelings about it: Immediately after the above-quoted passage Rodgers goes right on obsessing about his popularity and standing, showing at best piss-poor organization and sense of narrative rhythm. However this odd treatment is also consistent with plain bad writing and with having no idea what to do with these feelings and just burying them, something he more or last admitted in the above quote.

If the empathy was genuine and the magnitude of James’ loss did break through Rodgers’ habitual self-absorption, it’s a tragedy on every level that he chose not to take the chance to develop his newfound empathy. Assuming he was being truthful about his feelings, it looks like Rodgers didn’t know how to deal with the pain and fear and chose to set those feelings aside. In no small part it looks like he did so because he was afraid of losing standing as a man, since that was the driving focus of his young life.

Oh God, he was still a young man when he died. They were all so young–George Chen, Cheng Yuan Hong, Weihan Wang, Katherine Cooper, Christopher Michaels-Martinez, Veronika Weiss. All these young people. If only someone could have reached out to the killer–if only he’d sought the help he needed. How many more people does this false idol of masculinity have to claim? When will it ever be enough?

Citizen Justin
6 years ago

If a puppy looked at me like that I’d kick it.

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

@Wetherby

And this is the real damage that toxic masculinity does – it actively pushes men in the exact opposite direction from the goals that they claim to want to reach. Being a decent human being, treating other people as decent human beings (at least until they demonstrate otherwise), developing interests because you’re interested in them and not because they’re part of a fleeting craze – these are very very simple principles and they’ve done me no harm whatsoever. I love it when MRAs try to convince me that they’re right and I’m wrong, because what do they have to offer me that I don’t already have?

I remember how there was a discussion on another thread that the point of pickup artistry was not to help men get into fulfilling relationships or even to help them get laid a lot (though the latter is somewhat more feasible, especially if you don’t mind preying on someone who’s been abused and don’t care about consent). Rather the method itself is the point, i.e. upholding standards of toxic masculinity. I think the related phenomenon of MRM misogyny is much the same; the stated goal of helping men live better lives is obviously not the point, as Paul Elam admitted. The point is to hold on to a false sense of self based on patriarchal ideas about what it means to be a man. If those ideas make the followers miserable, well they’re obviously not manning hard enough and need to try harder. Or it’s really working and they don’t know it. It works much like faith healing that way, that is it doesn’t work at all.

AllisonW
AllisonW
6 years ago

I think I heard once that PUA techniques actually do accomplish one thing: they weed out women who don’t share their sexist attitudes and won’t put up with their shit, letting them quickly move on until they find a target that does share their sexist attitudes and will put up with their shit. This is perhaps even more frightening.

Shaenon
6 years ago

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/03/man-attacks-pregnant-woman-who-didnt-thank-him.html

MRA’s new hero ?

If you read the comments, which is of course a terrible idea, you’ll see the answer is yes.

Shaenon
6 years ago

Basically, he wants to everyone to live separate but equal, each to the country of their race, and to interact with each other as if interacting with an alien species. Trying to work together and learn things, but ultimately stay completely separated.

Operation Hell on Earth!

PussyPowerTantrum
PussyPowerTantrum
6 years ago

I wish all terrorist plots ended this way!

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

There’s actually MRAs arguing that her pregnancy might have been showing, so what’s the big deal? I guess it’s fine to beat up women if they aren’t pregnant with a fetus that may be male and is either way, the father’s property.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Oh no, the Aurini-headed dog is back!

I can’t believe there are actually people on that article about the violent assault of the pregnant woman arguing that she should have said “thank you.” Because that’s the most important part, her not saying “thank you,” not getting beaten so badly she was put in th hospital. Because that is totally a reasonable response when a woman doesn’t thank a man.

Via the Against Men’s Rights (the “movement,” not the rights) reddit: men being oppressed by felines.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

Sybilfawlty
That is disgusting I hope they catch that sick prick and people are upset for her not saying “thank you”? What a bunch of assholes.

I need brain bleach
http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/99-year-old-woman-sews-her-1000th-dress/

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

a huge white nationalist on paper

Yeah, and I’ll bet it has to be white paper, too.

How is this whole racial separatism thing supposed to work in practice? Let’s say we successfully get all the races to agree to relocate to their own area, then what? Who decides which race lives where? Who wins the lottery and gets to live in the oil and mineral-rich countries, the countries with the best farmland and fishing, the countries with abundant fresh water and temperate climates? Who gets stuck with deserts, poisonous snakes, and Chernobyl? Do they really think each race will be content to stay within its assigned borders, especially when population pressures loom and natural resources run out?

What about global problems like climate change, pollution, overfishing, extinction, and epidemics that know no borders and require international cooperation to solve?

“I don’t hate other races” rings pretty hollow when the next sentence is “…I just don’t want to ever have to see or hear or think about or interact with them”.

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