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The Top 8 Most Cringeworthy Moments from the Aurini/Owen Chat Logs [Sarkeesian Effect Breakup, Part 3]

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Do the Sarkeesian Effect dudes — now in the midst of a painful and noisy breakup — not realize how ridiculous they look to the rest of us?

Ok, maybe that’s not the right question to ask. After all, we’re talking about Davis Aurini, a sort of low-budget Anton LaVey with a plastic-skull fetish who actually put this picture of himself on his website on purpose:

 

Davis Aurini, doing his best "Blue Steel" for the camera.
Hello ladies!

Meanwhile, Jordan Owen, his former partner in, er, “filmmaking” is a sort of human-bear hybrid who once recorded an hour-long pro-porn diatribe while sitting naked in his bathtub — and then, instead of taking a few minutes to ponder the choices he’s made in his life, he went and put that online.

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“And another thing that Gail Dines doesn’t understand …”

 

At the moment, though, the human-bear hybrid is winning the public relations war, largely due to his strategy of not actually participating in it while his former partner spews out an assortment of accusations and insinuations and probably some other kinds of “ations” I don’t even know about.

Yesterday, Aurini — classy fellow that he is — posted an 8000 word log of two private Skype chats he’d had with Owen right before and right after Owen “fired” him from The Sarkeesian Effect.  In the logs, Aurini vehemently defends the honor of his “colleague” Roosh V, whom Owen had criticized in a couple of charateristically loooong videos, and demands (among other things) that Owen retract his accusations that Roosh was unable to get laid in Denmark and Norway.

He also tries to convince Owen that he is having some sort of psychological meltdown and repeatedly accuses him of “hallucinating.” After posting the whole log, Aurini tells his readers that Owen is “a man deep in the grips of psychosis.”

Oh, and he tries to blackmail Owen into giving him half of the money left in the budget for the Sarkeesian Effect.

Aurini evidently thought that posting this log would make him look good. 

I’ll let you be the judge of that. What follows are what I think are the Top 8 Most Cringeworthy Moments from the Aurini/Owen Chat Logs.

1) In a chat that happened a week before Owen “fired” Aurini, Aurini shows Owen the text of a message he sent to Roosh about Owen’s anti-Roosh video, urging Roosh to “have at” the man who was still at that point his “business partner.”

[2/22/2015 1:36:29 PM] Davis Aurini: I didn’t want you to post this video because I didn’t want you to have a panic attack as your idiocy was demonstrated by others; I need you semi-coherent to finish this documentary.  But if you’re going to publicly shit the bed, then so be it.  You deserve everything that’s coming to you.  I sent the following email to Roosh:

My partner on this Sarkeesian venture decided to post an attack video on you, misconstruing an article of yours.  I told him to take it down, mainly because he was making an ass of himself, but he decided that the highest value a man can subscribe to is calling out people on the Right and doing the Left’s work for them.

Link below.  Please, have at ‘er.  While I’m not going to publicly denounce my business partner, I look forward to seeing others point out the numerous flaws with his video.

2) Aurini, seemingly channeling the spirit of the Charles Boyer character in Gaslight, attempts to convince Owen that his negative impressions of Roosh are based on “hallucinations.”

[2/22/2015 2:09:32 PM] Davis Aurini: You stated that Roosh is spreading STDs; that is false and libelous.
[2/22/2015 2:09:55 PM] Davis Aurini: That is the hallucination; not your disgust, even though you’re making the most uncharitable interpretation possible.
[2/22/2015 2:10:24 PM] Jordan Owen: I’m being uncharitable when he defames all women everywhere and calls for limitations to be put on their freedom?
[2/22/2015 2:10:34 PM] Davis Aurini: You also seem to think that he couldn’t get laid in Denmark, and blamed the country for his own failings.  I already explained to you why this is false, but you don’t remember it because you were hallucinating.

3) Aurini tries to convince Owen that he’s also “hallucinating” Roosh’s, let’s just say, extremely cavalier attitude toward STDs.

[2/22/2015 2:16:53 PM] Davis Aurini: You did hallucinate him spreading STDs.
[2/22/2015 2:17:06 PM] Davis Aurini: That’s outright false.
[2/22/2015 2:17:49 PM] Davis Aurini: It’s also actionable libel, though I doubt he’ll sue.
[2/22/2015 2:20:20 PM] Jordan Owen: Everything I was going off of is directly sourced to things that he’s written.  He had nine years of unprotected sex without getting tested and openly stated that he didn’t care.
[2/22/2015 2:20:42 PM] Davis Aurini: And you make a leap to “He is intentionally spreading STDs”
[2/22/2015 2:21:22 PM] Jordan Owen: If he’s having unprotected sex with the full knowledge that he’s carrying something (as evidenced by his symptoms) then yes, he’s doing it intentionally.
[2/22/2015 2:21:44 PM] Davis Aurini: Facetious logic.
[2/22/2015 2:21:50 PM] Jordan Owen: It’s kind of like saying “well, I was randomly firing my gun into a crowd but I wasn’t INTENTIONALLY trying to hit anybody.”
[2/22/2015 2:21:53 PM] Davis Aurini: Yellow journalism
[2/22/2015 2:22:14 PM] Davis Aurini: You also think he didn’t get laid in Norway, despite the fact that he got laid in Norway, and explained how to get laid in Norway.

4) Aurini continues the gaslighting, as he tries to convince Owen that his dislike of Roosh is “irrational.”

[2/22/2015 2:24:58 PM] Davis Aurini: You had a panic attack when we discussed Roosh; you wished his parents had aborted him.  This is Elliot Rogers logic.  And you suggest that the calm and collected person is being irrational?
[2/22/2015 2:25:56 PM] Jordan Owen: Yes, it gave me tremendous anxiety to discuss him.  But the “why” for that is tremendously valid.
[2/22/2015 2:26:29 PM] Davis Aurini: If you’re experiencing tremendous anxiety, that suggests that you’re not being rational.
[2/22/2015 2:26:48 PM] Jordan Owen: Well, I’m not experiencing anxiety now and I feel the same way.
[2/22/2015 2:27:00 PM] Davis Aurini: Do you currently believe false statements?
[2/22/2015 2:27:07 PM] Jordan Owen: No.
[2/22/2015 2:27:43 PM] Davis Aurini: So you realize that Roosh did get laid in Norway?  And that he did not intentionally spread STDs?

5) At the end of this chat, which mostly consists of Aurini attacking Owen for his dislike of Roosh, Aurini says he doesn’t really care what Owen thinks about Roosh:

[2/23/2015 10:14:03 PM] Davis Aurini: …  Listen Jordan, I honestly don’t care about what you think about Roosh (or vice versa for that matter) I just felt it was very poor timing, and insulting to those supporters of ours who came through my channel. 

6) And then there’s the blackmail. After Owen “fires” him, Aurini gives him a counteroffer of sorts:

[3/2/2015 11:09:14 PM] Davis Aurini: We can do this clean or we can do it messy.  We can both produce separate films and be polite; admitting that we have different views.  Or we can do this messy.
[3/2/2015 11:10:19 PM] Davis Aurini: Give me 50% of the money that we both asked for together, and we will part ways politely.
[3/2/2015 11:11:06 PM] Davis Aurini: The only reason I’m making this offer is because the ‘messy’ option is unseemly; it’s ammunition for the SJWs. 

7) After acknowledging that, yes, he used several thousand dollars of the Sarkeesian Effect budget to buy himself a car, and trying to convince Owen that the real reason he’s moving to Las Vegas is to be “closer to Hollywood,” Aurini makes another counteroffer:

[3/2/2015 11:41:11 PM] Davis Aurini: 1.5k – we go forward together.  4k – we part amicably.  0 – I go public with the facts.
[3/2/2015 11:41:30 PM] Davis Aurini: That’s how honest businessmen deal.

8) But it turns out that Aurini is willing to haggle:

[12:01:53 AM] Jordan Owen: If you won’t consider my terms for severing ties then I have no reason to consider yours.
[12:02:01 AM] Davis Aurini: What terms are those?
[12:03:01 AM] Jordan Owen: What I offered- that I pay you for this month at the usual rate and give you credit in the film.
[12:03:50 AM] Davis Aurini: Make it 2.5; and I will be making my own film with a different title.  I will also write a glowing review of what you’re doing, and explain it as differences in artistic direction with no animosity – and I will let you review it before I hit publish.

ETHICS!

ETHICS!!

ETHICS!!!!

H/T — @somegreybloke

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ParadoxicalIntention
9 years ago

Dear gods above.

“Admit that Roosh got laid in Norway!” Seems to be Aruini’s biggest gripe.

Then there’s the whole uncomfortable bit with the gas-lighting. Holy shit Aruini’s an even bigger fantastically nauseating fuck soirée than I imagined. “You were hallucinating the whole thing!”

What a bag of shitty half-melted plastic dildos.

J
J
9 years ago

Failgate and the “manosphere” should trap themselves on an island and stay there so that the rest of humanity does not need to be subjected to them.

Holytape
9 years ago

So did Roosh get laid in Norway?! Inquiring minds really don’t want to know under any circumstance. Really. I don’t want to know.

So list of things that Aurini is concerned about.

1. Skulls.
1a. Money
2. Roosh’s sexual exploits.
…..
45. Martial arts.
…..
19,800. Making sure there aren’t empty pizza boxes in the background while interviewing a subject for a movie.
…..
1,344,492,119. Ethics in journalism.

Dreadnought
Dreadnought
9 years ago

This made me chuckle and managed to distract me from the destruction of Nimrud. Thanks.

ej
ej
9 years ago

All was going fine until YOU decided to boss me around about my Roosh video, at which point I decided I’d had enough. I am sick to death of this “manosphere” bullshit and being bullied day in and day out for not joining it. I am NOT making this movie to push a right wing agenda and Roosh’s idea to legalize rape is indefensible.

You know it’s bad when Jordan Owen is sounding reasonable.

Jef Withonef
9 years ago

You know, I think there may actually be hope for Jordan Owen yet

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

Christ almighty. That whole exchange is gaslighty as fuck. Aurini is literally trying to convince Jordan that he’s crazy, and Jordan is just trying to prove that his feelings are valid. This is at the point where my interest in Jordan’s horrid beliefs is far outweighed by my belief that nobody deserves shit likes this.

After acknowledging that, yes, he used several thousand dollars of the Sarkeesian Effect budget to buy himself a car,

Should have put this in at slot 9.

ej
ej
9 years ago

Also, is anyone surprised that Aurini claims that Roosh’s article about legalizing rape was “satire?” These guys really do not understand that word.

davidgerard
9 years ago

Jordan Owen may be a sexist, racist troll who is some sort of basement-dwelling nerd loser stereotype made flesh, but he is *still* an *incomparably better human being* than Davis Aurini.

Jokstan Orgamis (@JokstanOrg)

So, Davis Aurini has officially moved to the US? Does immigration know about this? How long has he been there? He can legally stay for 6 months but it’s illegal to work or look for work. Hmm..

ikanreed
ikanreed
9 years ago

At section 2, you clipped off the part where Owen seemed to be self-aware about misogyny for a second. It almost mafr him seem human for a minute.

m0tty93
9 years ago

Waiting for the one where they spend 2 hours arguing about the time Aurini totally saw a lady naked that one time but Owen doesn’t know her because she’s from Canada and she wouldn’t hang out with Owen anyway.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
9 years ago

“Facetious logic”?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

I guess, true to #gamergate fashion, Aurini has his head so far up his own ass that he truly believed the words he released would exonerate him, not condemn him.

d_dan
d_dan
9 years ago

“Admit that Roosh got laid in Norway!”

Just that a grown man discuss it in this way…woha! Something is not quite right wtih this historian”*/neo fascist guy.
Hopefully the MRA comes up with some imgur images that totally proves that it was the evil SJW that came between these two alpha dudes.Then this LMAO moment will never end.

*shouldnt you have at least a bachhlor to call yourself that?

d_dan
d_dan
9 years ago

Oh right, what is this crap about Jordan been the nice guy? The less bad of the a really nasty duo? Dont forget his awful rants about sarkeesian and others. As long as he stand for it he is one of the bad guys.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

… And the words he released, as far as I’ve read, have been mostly his. Davis does nearly all the talking, Jordan mainly has short replies interspersed between Davis’s tirade. How is this supposed to paint a picture of Jordan when Jordan barely speaks?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

@d_dan:

It’s possible to have a more fluid worldview than “bad guys vs good guys.” Yeah, Jordan’s a huge asshole and (from what I hear) practically a stalker that’s been obsessing over Anita for quite some time, but it’s possible to acknowledge that while still expressing sympathy for him in this particular scenario.

GrumpyOldMangina
9 years ago

Jordan Owen comes off as a gullible and clueless (but possibly salvagable) doofus. Aurini is pure scum.
The thing about Owen is that I have known dudes who really thought that there is a cheat code for getting women to sleep with you and that guys like Roosh know what it is. In the land of the incel, the guy who has gotten lucky (or been unscrupulous with an intoxicated woman) once or twice is king.

yutolia
yutolia
9 years ago

Wow, it was really strange seeing Owen be the “reasonable” one. Wow…

ryeash
ryeash
9 years ago

The last two frames properly sum up my reaction to half of the things I read here:

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0303.html

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

[2/22/2015 2:29:58 PM] Davis Aurini: Everything you say about him is based upon his claims; you only qualify it as “Roosh claims that…” when it disproves your point. When Roosh says something that fits your narrative, you accept it as gospel.
[2/22/2015 2:30:36 PM] Jordan Owen: Ah- yeah.
[2/22/2015 2:30:56 PM] Jordan Owen: Look, I need to go eat. Brb.
[2/22/2015 2:30:57 PM] Davis Aurini: Again, panic attack and anxiety; discussing somebody who isn’t even present and has no agenda against you should not provoke anxiety – that’s a sign that you’re highly irrational and motivated by emotion.
[2/22/2015 2:31:29 PM] Jordan Owen: No, its a sign that I’m VERY uncomfortable being psychoanalyzed for the sake of you winning an argument.
[2/22/2015 2:32:41 PM] Davis Aurini: I wasn’t psychoanalyzing you when you had the panic attack; I’m psychoanalyzing you BECAUSE you had the panic attack. Quite frankly, you scared me. You weren’t able to have a civil conversation, I obviously hit a deep neuroses and you were on the verge of violence.

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