A few days before alleged “men’s human rights” website A Voice for Men held its first convention last summer, the site’s founder and head boy Paul Elam put up a post imploring the alleged human rights activists planning to attend the event not to go around calling women bitches and whores and cunts, because the news media would be there, and this might make his little human rights movement look bad.
I’m paraphrasing here; Elam was a teensy bit more euphemistic, telling his followers that anyone caught “trash-talking women, men, making violent statements … anything that can be used against us” would get a very stern talking-to and, if they persisted, would be asked to leave.
Elam’s warning didn’t stick. Indeed, the woman in charge of publicity for the event – you may know her as JudgyBitch or Janet Bloomfield, neither of which is her real name – went on a bit of a Twitter rampage, happily denouncing critics of the group as, yep, “whores.”
As GQ magazine’s long-awaited, finally published account of the conference makes abundantly clear, JB wasn’t the only one who broke Elam’s rule. Elam himself broke it, as did, apparently, almost everyone who came within shouting distance of GQ correspondent Jeff Sharlet, and the infractions went well beyond slurs and “bitch make me a sammich” jokes.
So I present to you The 5 Creepiest Details from GQ’s Account of AVFM’s Conference Last Summer
1) The Men’s Rights Activist who boasted that he would have disowned his daughter if she had pressed charges against the man she said raped her.
Af a convention afterparty, the man in question told this little story to Sharlet, Elam, and a few others:
When one of his daughters came home one night and said she’d been raped, he said, “Are you fucking kidding me?” Sitting with us, he hikes his voice up to a falsetto in imitation: ” ‘Oh, I just got raped.’ ” He laughs. There’s a moment of silence. A bridge too far? “I told her if she pressed charges, I’d disown her.”
Elam, whose attention has drifted, grins through his beard. “That’s good fathering,” he says.
2) The presentation on male suicide in which the presenter referred to a woman’s alleged propensity for “cocoa penis puffs,” by which he evidently meant black penises.
Speaking about male suicide and the troubles faced by returning veterans, conference speaker Terrence Popp asked the men in the room to
“imagine coming back from war to find out your wife, I’m trying to think of a good way to say this, but, uh, you know, went cuckoo for cocoa penis puffs.” I think Popp, who is white, means the wife in question had sex with a black man. “Crazy for some Rice Krispies treats,” he continues, “and a couple Polish sausages thrown in there.”
3) The Men’s Rights Activist/sex offender who thinks the age of consent should be 12, because “I would rather err on the side of 12-year-olds having sex than on the side of ruining men’s lives.”
4) Sage Gerard’s “unconsensual hug.”
GQ’s Sharlet brought his friend Blair along with him to the convention, where the 26-year old evidently attracted a good deal of attention from the men there, receiving, Sharlet says, “several marriage proposals” (presumably unserious) and some hands-on attention from AVFM’s “Collegiate Activism Director” Sage Gerard, including what Blair later described as “the most unconsensual hug I have ever known.”
If Blair’s account of her encounter with Gerard is any indication, the AVFM collegiate organizer has been reading up on pickup artistry; in addition to a good deal of touching – what PUAs call “kino” – he tried to “isolate” her by drawing her away from the crowd to … write a poem. (His idea.)
Here’s how Sharlet, relying on Blair’s notes, described what happened after their awkward hug:
Sage loosens his grip. “I apologize for dragging you away,” he says. “I wasn’t going to feel okay until I talked to you.” He warns her not to send mixed messages. For instance, she shouldn’t put her hand on a man’s knee if she doesn’t want to have sex with him. Sage puts his hand on Blair’s knee. This is not a mixed message, he wants her to understand. She’s here, in the VFW. She’s taken the red pill. She needs another hug. He needs to give it to her.
Blair, I should note, is not the only one to report creepy, predatory behavior on the part of conference attendees.
5) Rape jokes, rape jokes, and more rape jokes.
I’ll just mention this one. When Sharlet arrived at the conference afterparty with Blair, who had successfully managed to escape Gerard’s unconsensual embraces, Elam asked her a question:
“I’m curious,” Elam says. “What did your friends think when you told them you were coming here?”
“To be honest?” Blair asks. Elam nods. She says, “I had friends who said I’d get raped.”
Blink. You can almost see the struggle in Elam’s bones: Play the nice guy? Or the perv? No question. “All right!” he booms, swinging his arms together. “Let’s get started!”
Jazz winces.
“Get the video camera!” Factory yells at his girlfriend, who giggles weakly.
I should be very clear here: At no point does it seem like Elam or Factory is actually going to rape Blair. We know they’re joking. Just a couple of middle-aged guys joking around about rape with a young woman they’ve never met before in a hotel room at one in the morning.
You can read the rest of Sharlet’s account of this groudbreaking human rights conference here. And you should.
“I would rather err on the side of men raping 12-year-olds with impunity than on the side of girls being able to trust the justice system to serve them as it should.”
FIXED THAT FOR YOU.
No bottom to their barrel.
Men’s rights activists are diarrhea stains on humanity. That poor girl I hope she gets the help she needs.
We should censor P*ick Elam’s face ::shivers::
As you do.
I’m still reeling from that picture of Elam; without the caption I would have never guessed it was the precursor to the bulgey-eyed, be-beared alien man I’ve seen so often.
Yup. That definitely sounds like a human rights organization to me.
And apparently they think all the people commenting on the GQ piece who aren’t them are all Mancheeze in sock puppet form.
“Human Rights” doesn’t mean what they seem to think it means.
Once again, in the span of about a week, I’m having trouble posting without violating the forum rules. I know–KNOW–that’s the right way for things to be, but dammit it’s tempting to give in with some of these cretins.
That last one made me throw up in my mouth. Again. *FML*
The rape joke thing is so horrifuing because they KNEW that press was their. That was how they chose to represent their movement to the public.
I can’t stop thinking about that poor young woman whose own FATHER laughed when she told him she’d been raped. My heart aches for her. I hope she had some better support somewhere. I hope she’s okay.
Every one of these men are sociopaths, especially the one who’s daughter was raped. How do you say that to your own flesh and blood? He doesn’t deserve to be a parent. None of these men do.
Horrifuing? Although it does look like horifuckyouing which pretty much sums up my feelings about MRA’s
Oh gods, I missed the first one. I don’t know how I did but I honestly feel like crying now.
Just when I think they can’t get any worse, they prove me wrong.
Not described in the article: any actual work on behalf of men with problems.
Holy shit that hug-poem-kneetouch story made my skin crawl.
An agent was inspired by this post. I…I feel like I should dissuade her.
https://twitter.com/esc_key/status/570737339636572161
Wow. I mean, it’s not like expected them to not be horrible, but wow.
Without his glasses he looks like a serial killer lumberjack. With his glasses he looks like a corporate shill who used to be a serial killing lumberjack but now only does that on the side.
On the age of consent thing, I wonder if they’d agree if the genders were flipped. Not that feminists generally say rapey bullshit like this, but if a feminist said “I’d rather err on the side of 12 year old boys having sex than on the side of ruining women’s lives” they would absolutely flip their shit.
Of course, feminists wouldn’t say that because consent is a big part of feminism and 12 year olds cannot consent. But this same logic could be applied to abuse victims who are boys. They don’t give any fucks about human rights at all.
I wonder how MRAs square away their bullshit belief that “All women everywhere are just itching to falsely accuse men of sexual assault!” with the fact that their conference was allowed to finish without a hitch despite the very real yet unreported (as far as I know) sexual assaults that happened under its roof, including Blair’s.
(Rhetorical. Of course the answer is “FALSE ACCUSATIONS!!!111one”)
zoon echon logon | February 25, 2015 at 6:18 pm
And thus is where I see the tragedy of the men’s rights movement. They could be spending their time helping men with actual problems, but instead they devote their time to being miserable little shitfucks who only want to rile up feminists because it gives them boners to think of women being angry or distressed because of them.
All the money they raise, all the time they spend trying to convince themselves it’s the rest of the world’s (mostly women’s) fault that their lives are shit and they need to “fight” in a “battle” just to be male by their own twisted definition…it’s sad.
Oh, and Paulie:
Fixed that sign for ya. You’re welcome. Though, I imagine it’s a little long for a poster board. But you guys are used to putting word vomit where none be needed.
*pukes*
Seems like a common event among MRAs–they say horrible shit, horrible shit gets reported (with very little commentary), they flip their shit and accuse whoever is quoting them of having an agenda.
Once again, I would never suggest that anyone go out and harm any of these charming individuals. But if they fell down an abandoned well and broke their necks and died, nothing of value would be lost.