Is it just me, or are Men’s Rights Activists (and PUAs and MGTOWers) just a little bit obsessed with this whole “cuckolding” thing? From a discussion in the Men’s Rights subreddit today:
![Demonspawn 6 points 8 hours ago but third-wave feminists are worse in my opinion. They RUIN everything feminism originally stood for Feminism was a movement that wanted men's rights while rejecting men's responsibilities. The only difference between then and now is that today it's harder to hide feminism's true intent as women have men's rights. permalink save report give gold reply [–][deleted] 2 points 7 hours ago* Not only do they reject responsibilities. They want them removed entirely. For example marriage today has simply become a way to find out there's been another man balls deep in your wife and several of your kids aren't yours, but you need to pay for it all. This is something feminists are working to have be the new way of life. They want every man cuckolded as it undermines the patriarchy and sets up a matriarchy where men are simply drones that toil away for their female masters. On the other hand a man being unfaithful is extremely irresponsible and morally abhorrent. Even if it's just having your cock sucked like Clinton. It's a scandal.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/cuckoldmrreddit.png?ssl=1)
Dudes, if you’re this, er, intrigued by cuckolding, there’s like a whole genre of porn out there that should keep you busy for a while. I will not be providing you any links.
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H/T — r/againstmensrights
Btw, Jezebel’s interview shows what Brianna thinks of this “joke”:
http://jezebel.com/man-who-terrorized-brianna-wu-for-months-says-he-was-ju-1687689719
I’ve never watched Cheaters, and now I never will because I’m so taken with davidknewton’s version of the logo. I’m going to pretend that Heaters a reality show that follows around a chef with a heart of gold who cooks romantic gourmet meals for deserving couples from every walk of life.
Matthew:
So, you see nothing misogynistic in this little exchange?:
No hatred of women there? You don’t find it sexist in the least to flat out state that all women, everywhere, are cheating on their husbands and forcing them to support children who aren’t there own? And that this is some kind of master feminist strategy for world domination? No misogyny there at all?
Well, isn’t that just adorable.
They really don’t need to worry. To be cuckolded they would first need a woman to tolerate their presence in a relationship. Not likely to be a problem for most MRA scumbags.
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Damn, I guess I’ll have to start listening now when the bakesale committee chair says “These cookies are inedible, we can’t sell them.” Usually my M.O. is to shout “NO!!! You obviously haven’t noticed that I am a WOMAN!!!” and then shake my fist until they put them next to the lemon bars. Now I’ll have to accept the possibility that I may indeed, despite my lady-ness, be capable of burning a batch of snickerdoodles.
– Matthew
General accusations against the entire female gender. Double sexual standards. Fevered fears about women wanting men as drones… Yes, this is VERY much misogyny at work.
Wait, weren’t Matthew and his ridiculous blog banned after the last time he sharted everywhere? Huh.
@Matthew:
“Only if it it’s not true?” You mean you honestly think it’s reasonable to believe that feminists want to cuckold every man in the world for funsies and to create a lower class of male drones toiling away under the watchful eye of the femopticon?
Paranoia and defensiveness can be misogynistic. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
Right. Criticizing women for being unfaithful, however, is both unjustified and absurd. Women consist of half the population of the world, and a large percentage aren’t even married to a man; what possible criticism could you level against such a diverse group?
This makes no sense. If women don’t deserve criticism, then they’re bad as the MRAs say? Huh?
Don’t just assume that any criticism of something being “sexist” is unfounded. Both the OP and the comments have spent quite a bit of effort detailing what was sexist about the quoted shit; recognize it, don’t ignore and patronize us.
@M.
I’d believe it. This is the guy that thinks that doctors exams of the female reproductive system is rape, and that only the owner of a woman (her boyfriend/husband) should ever be allowed access to her nether regions.
@Flying Mouse: I would watch that show SO HARD.
Matthew | February 24, 2015 at 8:46 am
It kind of is, bruh. It’s literally men saying “Women always cheat!” when they’re passing around articles like “What to do when you get caught cheating” (bee-tee-dubs, the article says “deny everything until you get caught. And if you get caught, don’t apologize, just say “it is what it is”, and walk away from that relationship because alphas do what the fuck they want.”), and use the excuse that “women always cheat” as a reason why they can cheat too.
Except when women cheat, it’s a deal-breaker. It’s bad, it’s terrible, it’s so very, very wrong. But it’s okay when they do it. Because alpha male.
Yes, we can criticize a woman for being unfaithful to her partner (though I wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re personally acquainted with the woman and know all the details of the relationship), and we can criticize a man for being unfaithful to his partner too (though I wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re personally acquainted with the man and know all the details of the relationship).
Personally, I don’t like criticizing someone for how they handle their relationship period. Even if I’m aware of some of the details and I know the couple personally. That shit’s their business.
Did anyone here say that women did not deserve criticism? Anyone at all? Because I certainly did not, nor do I see anyone here saying it either. Please point out if anyone here was saying that so I can sort them out for you.
[Citation Needed]
Again, [Citation Needed]. Who the fuck was saying that women are “infallible”? Because I would like to sort them out.
Also, men with a history of sexist behavior painting all women as cheating, cock-carousel riding whores simply because they’re women (or better yet, because BIOTROOFS) is sexist. A man (or men) saying that a singular woman is a cheater is problematic, but not inherently sexist.
*can be problematic. Sorry.
What I meant was: It can be problematic if the man is accusing a woman of cheating because she’s a woman or because she’s a “gold-digger” or some other sort of variation on that. It can also be EXTREMELY problematic if she was actually raped instead of “cheating” on her partner.
Saying she cheated because she was bored with her partner (and that boredom is NOT because she’s a woman), or because she was looking for a thrill, or because she simply wanted to is (mostly) not sexist or problematic.
But, again, I tend to not recommend digging into someone’s personal life unless I’m intimately involved.
So wait, how is the cuckolding going to work? Are we going to make them take turns – “OK, I will cuckold this other guy with you now, but you’ll be cuckolded later”? Or are we cuckolding them all at the same time… with no one? I always thought the word implied that there had to be another man involved, so… yeah, this theory seems about as well thought out as all the others they have!
yutalia: Wait, I think I’ve got it. The Feminist Agenda is becoming clear:
1: All women will be ‘converted’ to feminism, and ergo, lesbianism.
2: These women will then marry men for their ‘beta bux’.
3: Then they will cuckold these men with their lesbian partners, who will use sperm secretly obtained from their lover’s husband to impregnate them.
4: Profit.
Okay, with step 3, it’s getting a bit unclear. Adding generic names:
Mary, a Feminist Lesbian, will marry John, a Clueless Beta. Mary will then go meet up with Ann, her Feminist Lesbian lover. Ann will bring along a condom full of sperm stolen from Frank, her own Clueless Beta, and, during their sexytimes* will impregnate Mary with Frank’s semen. Mary will likewise do the same to Ann with John’s semen.
It’s so very clear and obvious now!
*: Said ‘sexytimes’ will, of course, include a strap-on in the best lesbian porn traditions, because it’s not sex without penetration, amirite?
I think the actual main reason for the cuckold fetish is that masculinity in our culture is so fragile. Some guys think being a “real man” is so important, and so impossible for them personally, that they’d rather watch a “real man” do their partner than have sex with her himself.
@freemage
Is that the plot of the porno the MRAs keep watching? That explains it!
@Dvärghundspossen
Thats true, but the groups they would enter would be small groups filled with related males.
Of course, that assumes the woman left to join the man’s group, which is well attested but certainly not universal. From what I understand, analysis of bones and teeth in the (Urban and NOT Paleolithic at all) Indus Valley Civ showed that the females were local but the males were from different areas … indicating it was the men who joined the female’s family group. So arrangements like that are not only possible but attested in history. In that case like that maybe “cuckoldry” would be more of a possible strategy since the men in the group would not be necessarily related at all . However, it would still be a small group with only a very small number of men to choose from. Also the idea of men leaving to join the womans family group doesn’t seem like something MRAs would also like or be willing to believe. It also seems at odds with their worldview
So, yeah, perhaps I’m wrong. It just was something that popped into my head when I was hearing someone spout that stuff. Suddenly I was like “But early humans didn’t live in large communities where women had easy access to lots of men to pick and choose from” and the more I thought about it the more I thought that it was kind of a problem that would have to be explained.
Oops, yeah, Matthew was banned. I won’t let any more comments from him through.
What’s the matter boys? Do you resent the fact that women are allowed to choose who they sleep with? Because that’s what this all boils down to, if you think about it.
Guys? I thought of something, what if we (women) are the Ultimate Alphas? I mean think about it they say that we ‘ride the cock carasel’, cheat all the time and have no empathy but they write articles to know what to do when caught cheating, ‘ride the pussy coaster’ and play with our emotions.
They so badly want to be like us! Because we are the True Alphas!
@fruitloopsie
Pretend the cyberman said “she” instead of “he”.
@fruitloopsie
Now that’s what I call a Red Pill moment! Manosphereans accuse us of accuse us of literally everything they want to do: violence, domination, philandering, cuckolding, all with total impunity.
Ladies? Have you taken The Pink Pill?
I have. And now I’m feeling an urge to make a bunch of cryptic, badly designed posters, Xerox them by the dozen, and distribute them far and wide. Wake up, sheeple!
Have any of them ever explained how “Alpha fux, beta bux” can be a thing if women are actually sexually attracted to money and status rather than looks? They contradict each other at so many points that I’m honestly unsure about what they think about how we are.