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http://www.returnofkings.com/35633/what-to-do-when-youre-caught-cheating

Hi, first time commenter, long time lurker. But this nonsense finally pulled me out if the woodwork, since I simply cannot wrap my brain around this asinine ‘every woman wants to cheat’ concept. Obviously, people of every gender may cheat, as shitty people exist in all genders. But where are these guys getting the idea that women are just running around desperately looking for some bigger, better dick? Is there one guy who lives in some area where everyone cheats and is skewing the data? Or is it just that *le gasp* women aren’t fucking the guys who write this sort of drivel! *insert dramatic movie stinger sound effect*

Anyway, greetings to you all, and I hope to enjoy many future comments sections with you. 🙂

‘could not be WITH the sexiest woman in the world’

BTW Lister lives in Bedford Falls with Kochanski and the twins, every day is Christmas Eve. His fantasy is sweet and not ego based because Lister is portrayed as a man comfortable and secure in himself.

Ugh, terrorising victims of harassment doesn’t sound like satire to me. And his actions add fuel to the arguments that the threats aren’t serious. I don’t get this kind of comedy. Even if he thinks he’s mocking the harassers, he’s doing it in a harmful way. This has to be illegal.
He could easily have mocked gamergate without threatening anyone specifically.

Also adding fuel to the demonisation of the mentally ill.

Fucking asshole. –#

Don’t know if I want to support cycloptic smilie erasure.

Here’s something about the whole “Alpha F**ks, Beta Bucks” Cuckoldry Evo Pych stuff that just occurred to me recently.

The whole thing is based on the supposed evolutionary advantages to genes that cause a woman to select a reliable “Beta” for a partner to raise children but a different “Alpha” to genetically sire them. Frankly, while there are reasons to doubt how this strategy would really work on an genetic evolutionary level (if these “betas” aren’t having kids, how does “Beta” behavior continue to propagate?) But, even if we look past this there is another large question that I never see asked.

The theory of this strategy pretty much presumes that a woman has access to lots of different, largely genetically different, men. This is definitely true in society today. But everything I have ever learned about prehistory says that is was definitely NOT true through most of human history. Up until the neolithic and the rise of towns, humans lived in very small groups that were composed exclusively of close genetic relatives. Remove the same-sex, children, and elderly of the group from the pool and you end up with Mrs Crood having a choice of maybe a handful of brothers/nephews/cousins to choose from. Since close genetic relatives the majority of genetic material (even beyond the 98%+ we all share a humans) the supposed “advantages” of going out of your way to select the most “Alpha” guy in the group would largely disappear …. he’s basically going to give you the same genetic material as his “Beta” brother would. Add in the fact that the entire group raised all the children – so there was no need to pick 1 “Beta” to be your hubby to cuckold to begin with,and there was no “Nuclear Family” among Cavemen, and the whole damn theory looks remarkably anachronistic to me.

@Dvärghundspossen:

I’m now imagining whiny cavemen drawing crude pictures on cave walls depicting how women are so unfair and how they’re going to get their own back by living on their own on in another valley.

I really don’t understand why “raising a child that you didn’t provide half of the chromosomes for” matters at all.

As a person raised in a family where not all of the children were genetically related to the parents, who married into a family where none of the children were genetically related to the predominant “father figure” I find the whole thing personally offensive.

I mean, get upset with your spouse for sexual encounters outside the agreed-upon boundaries of the relationship, but I don’t understand how the parentage of the children being raised in a given household has anything to do with… anything.

As far as I know, in at least some jurisdictions the whole “genetic relationship” thing doesn’t matter anyways – if you’re living in a household together and taking part in raising a child then you’re legally the parent regardless of whether or not you are genetically related.

… Oh, my! I just realized that the guys who are like “yeah, I totally get to sleep with girls who are cheating on their bf/husband” are totes declaring themselves to be sneaker-males!

They’re basically screaming (from the pseudo-bio standpoint using the traditional sexual strategy hierarchy) “Look at me! I’m a Beta!”

Excuse me while I go laugh like a hyena for a bit.

@ maistrechat | February 24, 2015 at 10:11 am
In many Common Law jurisdictions, there is a rebuttable presumption that the husband is the father. Parentage matters for establishing financial responsibility for extramarital children.

@Spindrift | February 24, 2015 at 3:26 am
Some PAU types claim that women are (less evolved/more emotional than rational/etc), and are still selecting for traits that would have been useful before the Neolithic.

@Ellesar: Yes, the differences between Lister and Rimmer stem from how they approach their ambitions. Lister has modest domestic plans — open a restaurant on Fiji — that were probably supposed to seem ridiculous at first, but become kind of bittersweet three million years out.

Rimmer hates his job, constantly compares himself to his more successful brothers, doesn’t really want his ambitions, and is generally miserable.

I just feel the need to clarify that the bit with Rimmer’s cheating wife is in the first novel, not the television series.

@skiriki: Just a prank, huh? He’d better hope someone doesn’t decide to prank him with a tire iron.