"They want every man cuckolded as it undermines the patriarchy and sets up a matriarchy where men are simply drones" and other insights on feminism from the Men's Rights Subreddit

I really don’t understand how these guy’s (racist) fears of being cuckolded by black men line up with their fear of being forced to provide for children that are not biologically theirs. Assuming the guy is white, you’d think it would be pretty apparent if their wife/girlfriend had actually given birth to a black man’s child.

Or do these guys still subscribe to the outdated belief that semen hangs around the vagina permanently and any child formed is the product of ALL the dudes that the woman has theoretically had sex with? I suppose that’s the only real explanation for their outrage at women having DARED to sleep with any men before them. (That and their crippling fear that having something to compare them to will make the ladies more likely to run far, far away from these pisslords.)

@suffrajitsu

have you read The Secret History of Wonder Woman by Jill Lepore? It’s quite interesting.

Seeing how it’s the very article I linked in my own comment, yes I have! 😉 I agree, the parallels are really interesting.

@Catalpa

Or do these guys still subscribe to the outdated belief that semen hangs around the vagina permanently and any child formed is the product of ALL the dudes that the woman has theoretically had sex with?

Continuing the theme of hive insects, I think the manosphere is confusing human females with queen ants and queen bees who can indeed store semen from multiple males for a lifetime. http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2010/03/18/sperm-war-the-sperm-of-ants-and-bees-do-battle-inside-the-queens/ It’s not a feat that mammals are capable of, though humans compensate with the use of sperm banks.

So it turns out Mr. I-Crashed-My-Car was a literal troll:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/gamergates-archvillain-is-really-a-trolling-sketch-comedian?utm_term=.im63RAxx3#.afbl6mklG

@wordspinner: I’m…not sure how I feel about that. I’m all for trolling Gamergate, but dude, seriously, your “sketch” really freaked the hell out of a woman who has already had plenty reason to fear for her life.

You know that scene in West Side Story where Riff and Bernardo progressively raise each other weapons? Cuz there’s a fun betting game to be had somewhere in Republican vs. Manosphere outlandish misconceptions of female biology.

Okay, this is just wild speculation on my part, but maybe the prevalence of cuckolding fantasies among men has to do with overexposure to porn, possibly at the expense of having a real sex life? Especially standard “third-person” porn, where there is no pretense of the viewer being involved with the actors. If your expectations about sex are based on watching other people, I can see that informing a fetish that revolves around your partner having sex with someone else rather than with you.

If this doesn’t affect women as much, it’s likely because less porn is aimed at women to start with.

In funnier news, there is this:

http://www.dailydot.com/geek/jupiter-ascending-female-audience/

I haven’t seen it, but a lot of the geeky women on the twitter were all over it, like, “This is objectively terrible but I still loved it to death”, and I get it. I so fucking get it. I may have to actually go see it just to see a movie that plays with weird-ass power fantasies from a female perspective. You know, instead of just reading books, many of which I still have. In ebook form. Despite not getting into ebooks until college.

… I own the Old Kingdom Trilogy in physical form, ebook, and audio.

Shut up, they are narrated by Tim Curry. Of course I had to buy that shit.

Slightly off topic, guys in general, when they gang up on me in the online world love to bring up cuckolding.

The first time I saw the word, I didn’t know what it even meant. When I found out there was porn based around it I was even more confused. But, if it’s your thing, enjoy yourself. In the case of MRAs, though does protest much.

I remember the first time I saw the word (on a pro wrestling forum, I should add) some bully who kept calling me a ‘bitch’ for having the nerve to be the lone woman on a website mostly populated by men, told me instead of “trying to pretend to know what I’m talking about, go watch a video about makeup, or how to cuckold your husband”.

Yep; we have “Fake Gamer Girl” and now “Fake Wrestling Fan Girl”. Ironically for my bully, I was watching a video about makeup right before I went to the wrestling forum.

Do I want patriarchy ended? You bet, and I am PROUD to say that! Do I want it replaced with matriarchy? Only a patriarchal asshat would think that the ONLY alternative to patriarchy is matriarchy…or any other -archy. How’s about an egalitarian society – dedicated to equality, ecological sanity and compassionate relationships with ALL of life? How’s about a peaceful world, where all are welcomed, supported and encouraged to be their best and live their dreams?

I am sure most feminists (and most members of equal rights groups) want. I don’t know way why this is so hard for MRA’s to understand. Maybe because the want to keep the patriarchy so they can keep their ‘power’ over women.

@suffrajitsu Cuckolding is about fetishizing one’s own sexual insecurity; I imagine the reason it’s less common among women is that, because of the messages girls are bombarded with well before puberty, sexual insecurity is less novel for you all.

There’s also the evopsych idea that seeing one’s mate with another man causes arousal and therefore a greater abundance of sperm with which to flood out that of the interloper.

Bees! I never thought yesterday that I’d be linking this marvelous idea on Mammoth.

The beekeeper’s dream.

This is soooooo kewl! We are turning our small yard into two mini-forests – backyard wild and front & side yards fruit and vegies. We were thinking of a beehive and now we may be able to! Thank you so much for this link and info!!!!!

And if enough people can do this, we may contribute both to saving the bees AND saving our world! And it could not be a sweeter way, as long as folk never use herbicides and/or pesticides!

This is soooooo kewl!

Yup. Our original plans for a chookhouse in our back garden have sort of dropped off the to do list since mrmagnificent’s catastrophic health event (2 years ago last week).

I’d always had a vague, dreamy, if-only, idea that I could also have a dovecote and/ or a beehive in the same area (or on top). Now that I’ve seen this all the wishing-hoping-dreaming has come surging back. Previously I’d automatically cancelled out bees because of hive management issues. Problem. Solved.

We’d have virtually no problems with people using pesticides. We have a couple of acres of open park and trees over the back fence which get mowed every few weeks or so (when the grass actually grows) and no other maintenance or spraying of any sort. All we’d have to do would be to fill up the garden with lavender and daisies and herbs as supplemental/ maintenance feeding for bees. There are several huuuge flowering eucalypts within stone’s throw of the back fence as well as street trees and every house has several large shrubs or trees plus quite large park areas within a couple of kms radius.

The whole “women want betas for their money and alphas for vagina tingly sexy times” thing really seems odd when combined with their fear of women going off and having “thugspawn” babies. Are all alphas meant to be black? Do they think black men are superior “aplha” men? If black men are superior, how can they judge women for preferring them, isn’t that just basic evo psych? Funny how their evo psych is only used to reinforce their own arguments while ignoring the implications of evo psych applied to their other complaints.

Once again it feels like things loop back to insecurities and porn, as they so often do.