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Alex Jones, Men's Rights Activist: We Hunted the Mastodon to Feed You!

Here are some things that Alex Jones, the bellicose conspiracy theorist behind Infowars and Prison Planet, actually believes:

Yep, Alex Jones is a Men’s Rights Activist in all but name.

In the video above, ostensibly an analysis of the “the political and social agenda pushed during the Super Bowl,” Jones argues – and I use the term loosely – that the secret cabal running the world is using the media to tear down men and destroy the patriarchal family.

One of their primary weapons? “Bumbling dad” characters on TV sitcoms, which make men in general, and fathers in particular, look silly. (Huh. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard this one before.) Demonstrating that he has his finger on the pulse of contemporary culture, he cites the examples of Archie Bunker and Al Bundy.

The rest of his rant is fairly typical Alex Jones material, an ominous if mostly incoherent assortment of dubious assertions and dire predictions about the future. Only this time he works in some oh-so-familiar MRA tropes. Strikingly, though his arguments in favor of the patriarchal family are thoroughly sexist, he  displays none of the overt hostility towards women you see amongst Men’s Rightsers, whether on Reddit or on A Voice for Men.

He reminisces about visiting the homes of his alleged “black friends” as a kid, distressed to discover that the mothers were in charge. He suggests that Planned Parenthood’s is up to no good, but doesn’t explain why and tells his listeners to “look it up” themselves. (I looked it up: Apparently they’re a “Eugenics Death Cult.”)

At one point he claims that children are being taught “fisting” in grade school sex-ed classes. No, really.

But my favorite bit comes about 8 minutes in, when Jones, in the midst of explaining away the pay gap between men and women, declares that men are basically hard-wired to work harder than women:

It’s men that are meant to go out and not sleep for three days chasing down mastadons, to run them over the side of a cliff, to haul back enough … meat so that everybody survives for the winter.

That’s right: Alex Jones believes WE HUNTED THE MASTADON TO FEED YOU.

I only skimmed the comments over on Infowars, but I did enjoy this one:

 wlrpaul • 2 days ago  Dirty secret, most women despise and fear men, but spend their entire lives pretending otherwise. They fear male power, male sexual energy, male freedom. Jealous and angry, they refuse to own up to anything, so men become the convenient punching bag.  Mothers thus train their boys into submission, to hate themselves and their gender.  Some externalize this hatred of men by latching onto the CIA funded feminist movement, attacking all men based on a pile of ill conceived, dishonest gripes.  The stuff most men have to put up with, when it comes to women. Imagine, if women were in men's shoes -- the human race would die out, no way would women submit to marriage as a husband, when it would be routine for her children, salary and house to be taken from her at a whim. Talk about powerlessness.  The day we men can bear babies will be the first time in human history when men are truly free of the evils of women. It is just the truth.  BTW, I love women, sure some women are good, many are, but good, marriageable ones who are single for any length of time are as rare as unicorns.

I have to say that I am much less enthusiastic than Wirpaul about the prospect of bearing children, as I am under the impression it hurts a LOT.

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Hyena Girl
9 years ago

Alert! Alert!
Code Mango!
He’s onto us!

greyskye
greyskye
9 years ago

Dammit, Wirpaul has rumbled us. I wondered why my Feminist check from the CIA was less this month than it was last month.

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
9 years ago

I just love it how wirpaul throws out the “CIA funded feminist movement” as if it requires no explanation.

Radioactive Elephant
Radioactive Elephant
9 years ago

Whelp… time to bust out the ol’ shredder.

tooimpurenangel
9 years ago

I’m not sure if I’m horrified or amused? I mean, I’ve heard of him before but seeing his beliefs laid out like that is pretty magical, you know?

Radioactive Elephant
Radioactive Elephant
9 years ago

Fnoicby:

I just love it how wirpaul throws out the “CIA funded feminist movement” as if it requires no explanation.

Does it really need one? Is there one that would make it less stupid than saying “CIA funded feminist movement”?

tooimpurenangel
9 years ago

Reptilian funded feminist movement?

Andrew Johnston
9 years ago

At one point he claims that children are being taught “fisting” in grade school sex-ed classes. No, really.

Couple possible sources for that, but it’s probably based on a nugget of bullshit that was lobbed at Kevin Jennings. Among the materials distributed by GLSEN over the years was a pamphlet demonstrating how to turn a latex glove into a dental dam; Some right-wing crank (Peter LaBarbera, I think) saw a glove and decided that this was a “fisting kit.”

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

Hey, did anyone else not get their check from the CIA? Feels like I’ve been waiting for that for yeeeeears.

esp
esp
9 years ago

Even if the mastadon thing were true they don’t realise that often in tribal cultures the men spend a short time hunting for meat then spend the rest of the time sitting on their asses or getting high. Whereas the women work all of the time – sourcing the vast majority of the food, processing and preparing it(often extremely laboriously), looking after the kids etc. Presumably stone age people lived in a similar manner;

“Eat yer hunk of mammoth woman but you better get a fire made and cook it for me cause I’m gonna be loaded offa shaman juice in 5 minutes.” – neolithic man living the mra dream.

Jo
Jo
9 years ago

The cheques might be late from time to time, but the black helicopter that brings me cupcakes on my birthday makes it all worthwhile.

Mercy
Mercy
9 years ago

MRAs want to be the ones who get pregnant and bear children? Be my guest, I say! Have at it. It’ll take some serious science, but I’m all for that. >.<

Cheryl Kerkin
9 years ago

The man is ill.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

Does anyone else think that Bill Hicks might have faked his own death and is now pretending to be Alex Jones as part of some weird comedy performance art projec?

Or is that just me?

tooimpurenangel
9 years ago

I never had, but I’m kind of loving the idea.

GrumpyOld Man
9 years ago

It’s a testimony to the lack of critical thinking in US life that anybody listens to this very disturbed man for more than twenty seconds.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Another thing Alex Jones believes; George W Bush assassinated John F Kennedy Jr. using a Manchurian candidate who Co piloted the plane and crashed on purpose. Apparently, to be a top Illuminati member you have to assassinate someone.

I have some Prison Planet DVDs my mom’s coworker gave her. I might have to watch them tonight.

Sara Flower Kjeldsen
9 years ago

Lol seriously wtf?

GrumpyOldMan
9 years ago

It’s a testimony to the failure of critical thinking in the US that anyone listens to this terminally bewildered man for more than 20 seconds.

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
9 years ago

Is there any evidence at all that only men did the hunting back in the Stone Age? Idk, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me that you would deliberately exclude half of the young, fit, able-bodied members of the tribe from hunting expeditions. Surely the more people out running and wielding spears the better.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

Yey! I am so glad that we are actually discussing actually hunting mammoths on this site. 🙂

I’m having to do my Internet stuff on my phone for a few days ’cause away from home so can’t ponpontificate at length as I am usually want to do (suspect there’ll be a lot of relief at that). There are some really interesting points about gender relationships involved though so I’d have loved to natter about it.

If this thread is still going when I get back near a proper keyboard I’ll bore you to tears with dubious theories about hunter gathering and the shift from beneficent Matriarchy to oppressive patriarchy.

Also “Flint knapping and the foundations of Capitalism” 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

Argh, Cyberwolf is going to anticipate one of my points (and no doubt going to illustrate it better than I could)!

marinerachel
marinerachel
9 years ago

There wasn’t much big-game hunting in the past. Spear-hunting mammoths only happened if there was a weak animal readily available. The way early people actually procured meat: they set snares. Everyone did.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

One starting point for all this is to note that, contrary to popular myth,mammoth hunting was neither particularly arduous or dangerous. It was so low cost that hunters could afford to slaughter numerous animals and only consume the very nice bits (basically imagine today only using the fillet from cows and throwing the rest away)

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
9 years ago

@ marinerachel

Yup, along with the occasional cliff drive.

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