So the musician who goes by the name Pogo, best known for his magical audiovisual mashups using snippets of old Disney movies, is now declaring that the awful misogynistic nonsense he recently posted on his blog and on YouTube was “somewhat of an experiment for myself,” intended to rile up
the enormous breed of hyenas out there taking gender equality and feminism hostage, and bending it into a social status to validate their feeling that the world owes them everything because of their gender.
As Pogo (real name Nick Bertke) explains it in a new blog post today, his attacks on women were intended to expose these fake feminist “hyenas … as the self contradicting brats they are.” To do this, he says,
I uploaded videos and blog posts to draw this mentality out and see just how much of it plagues my own circles. I mashed together the most radical views I could find about women and feminism on the internet, doing my best to present it as my humble opinion and honest observations.
It wasn’t long before my Twitter, which I haven’t touched in months, was absolutely blazing with “equality seeking, compassionate and understanding people” putting every one of their ideals through the shredder and back again. A few people had excellent things to say, but watching the rest of them was like watching a bunch of vegetarians turn cannibal and tear apart a newborn.
Bertke gives zero examples of this.
Looking through Twitter’s list of “Top Tweets” mentioning Bertke’s now-deleted @PogoMix Twitter account, I didn’t find a lot of cannibals. I saw a bunch of Tweets like this:
https://twitter.com/Andie_Cox/status/560788383861981184
rip @PogoMix
Used to love your mixes a lot. No more. Please look into what feminism actually is, then we'll talk.— Cassie (@dinosaur_mug) January 30, 2015
https://twitter.com/rosstavo/status/560946547085811712
The harshest tweet of the bunch was this one:
https://twitter.com/dearmothica/status/560999015295483905
Looking through some of the rest of the Tweets referencing his account, I found more disappointed fans, a few more people asking if his antifeminist videos were poor attempts at satire, and a number of people (mostly dudes) challenging him to back up the various dubious assertions he’d made in his blog posts and videos.
The most abusive tweet of the bunch was the following one, from a self-described troll — seriously, the word “troll” is in his avatar.
@pogomix im gonna beat you up
— Speedcore Henry after EVO 🙁 (@FilmCritGRINCH) January 30, 2015
There were not a lot of cackling feminist “hyenas” to be found, unless you count this Tweet as a sort of hyena howl:
https://twitter.com/HELLOK1TTY4EVR/status/561006261572222977
There are a couple of obvious problems with Bertke’s claim that the whole thing was an “experiment.” For one thing, as I pointed out in my last post, he’s apparently had misogynistic eruptions before. For another, his “honest views on feminism and gender equality,” as he puts it, are still pretty shitty.
While avoiding overtly misogynistic statements — you know, like claiming that women are basically just children begging for discipline — Bertke’s post today is full of the same sort of ignorant and vaguely infantile attacks on feminism you see on Men’s Rights sites. In addition to calling his feminist opponents “hyenas,” he also suggests that many self-described feminists are “brats pocketing what they think is a ticket to a special club for getting special treatment.”
And in his earlier post Where Feminism Goes Wrong — which he hasn’t taken down, and which he says he stands by — he makes similarly ridiculous claims:
The irony of feminism is that, by focusing largely on one gender, it in inherently supports the segregation of genders and raises a breed of self victimizing gold diggers who think historical injustice to their sex makes them personally deserving of special treatment today.
So, yeah, not buying it. And if Twitter is any indication, there aren’t a lot of other people buying it either.
I guess we’ll have to see what he comes up with next.
EDIT: Reworded the sentemce starting “For another” which wasn’t quite right before.
He’s obviously riled up that he didn’t get any approval for his prior stupidities, because look at those in-incoherent typos. Looks like he’s not enjoying his newfound un-unpopularity, either.
Also, this self-victimizing gold-digging thing: Where do I line up for my free cash? Because I haven’t seen so much as a single crumb of gold dust yet, for all my efforts…
So his experiment was…act like a massive asshole and see if people get angry.
Brilliant.
Another classic case of a strange phenomenon I’ve noticed around the Internet: If you call out a shitstoat on their shitstoatery and they immediately turn around with “LOL I TROLL U”… They’re never, ever trolling.
Considering that, like, 3/4 the Internet is trolls and they never play the “I TROLL U” card because that defeats the entire bloody point of trolling (insofar as smearing your own turds on the wall for the sake of attention can be called a “Point”), why do they think they’re fooling anybody?
Yeah, right. Dude, you can’t say that it’s an “experiment”. You said that crap. Stop making excuses, stop backpedaling, stop thinking that there’s a “delete” button, because that stuff remains on the Internet FOREVER.
(On the other hand, I’m a *teeny* bit surprised that he didn’t throw the “my words were taken out of context” card. Then again… those words were rather, well, there and all.)
Also, dude needs to look up what “feminism” means. Because last I checked, it was to support equality for both sexes.
ahaha is he actually claiming “soshul experment” now?
Way to be Schrodinger’s Douchebag, Pogo. Ask Sam Pepper how well that worked out for him.
Keep diggin’.
unfortunately, tumblr’s already caught wind of this nonsense, and it’s being spread quite quickly now. I’m disappointed in his actions whatever the intent, as LITERAL CHILDREN, as in people under the age of 18, ADORE his remixes. He put this shit on his public blog and channel for all of them to stumble upon. Fester in internet purgatory, you piece of crap.
“No, no, I am Turkish! I am Turkish!”
Bonus points to anyone who knows what I’m talking about. XD
He acted like a misogynistic asshole and that’s he thinks we’re the ones who come off poorly?
Okey dokey.
Hyena’s probably wouldn’t be the BEST mascot for feminism given that they’re matriarchal and the boys are at the bottom of the heap…
But hyenas ARE pretty boss. And they don’t take any shit. Hmm…
No, you guys don’t get it! He doesn’t hate feminists sluts and whores. He just thinks they’re hyenas and brats! MAJOR DISTINCTION!!! -dies-
And the backpedaling commences! God you know when I was 14 I had a tendency to catfish and lie about my life to make myself seem more interesting on this forum I frequented. I made a lot of people uncomfortable and I apologized and told everyone it was an “experiment.” I think that’s about as believable with pogo as it was with me back then. At least I was just an insecure teenager who thought lying about her non-existent sex life would make her more interesting. And as an adult I look back and cringe. I wonder if pogo will ever get to that point. Ah, probably not.
I love that he 1)confuses sex and gender, 2)uses words like “breed,” “self-victimizing,” and “gold diggers” to describe feminists, and then 3) somehow things that sexism is a “historical injustice” that totally never happens today.
What an extra jerk. He could have at least owned his misogyny, instead of going all “WHAT A TWIST” about it. It’s obviously not a “just kidding” thing.
Hey Pogo, bite me!
I swear these wankers are getting on my last nerve.
Quiet Wolf
Hyenas for feminist mascots 2k15.
http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.26617079.6811/fc,220×200,asphalt.u1.jpg
http://www.redbubble.com/people/bazmahtaz/works/12546811-feminist-killjoy-hyena-tee?grid_pos=26&p=t-shirt
This artist also has Preying Mantis and Lantern Fish shirts as well. Very nice~
Though, I find it funny that “feminist hyena” is already a meme. Mostly used by jackasses to brilliantly display how little they actually know, mind. But, I can’t see why we can’t reclaim it.
Besides two of those Twitter responses, this is just another great example of how people can blow the most mild criticism out of proportion.
“Hyenas” and “brats”? People who bring up sexism or racial issues in a constructive manner are somehow “thin-skinned” – but this shit isn’t? Bringing up actual cases of victimhood are “excuses” or “lies” – but this back-pedaling nonsense isn’t?
This is exactly why I get annoyed at people who claim others need to have a “thicker skin”: they are easily some of the most defensive, emotionally volatile people you can ever talk to. It’s infuriating that they take offense of others’ offense – yet arrogant enough to still proclaim they’re somehow more “objective” or “level-headed” than anyone else ever.
It reminds me of how people keep claiming women are “too emotional” for taking issue with something, but guys having these outlandishly angry responses and becoming weirdly obsessive over certain subjects isn’t – for whatever dumb, convenient reason such people come up with to excuse shitty behavior.
Also:
That’s definitely true of Spotted Hyenas, especially as females are twice as big as males, but I’m not sure that’s the case with other kinds of Hyena.
All that said, it ain’t a bad idea either. 😉
Hey it’s fossil Friday! How about a giant hyena?
http://hararhyenas.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/pachycrocuta-with-human.jpg
Ninja’d on the hyenas. They’re not the only animals with sexual dimorphism of the female being larger, but I suppose blue whales and crowned eagles didn’t quite have the shady tone he was going for.
I just noticed David has links for male survivors of abuse. Thank you. It’s so hard to refer someone with so many MRA fronts out there…grrr.
NOPE to a hyena that tall. I like not, you know. Not being eaten. I’m actually pretty adamant on that point.
@ Cyberwulf: I read that as “soshul excrement.”
Oh my god.
OH MY GOD.
Is he actually pulling the “It was just an experiment” card?!?
Thats like high school level, no, middle school level type shit there. Look at all the tweets he’s gotten in the last day, I’m not seeing a single person who agreed with him. He must have panicked when he found out that not a single one of his legions of fans hated women.
Seeing as how his music is overwhelmingly cheerful, whimsical and dreamy, I wouldn’t think there would be many MRA/Red pill types who would seek his stuff out in the first place. All I’m seeing is a lot of devastated people, just like me.
Just when I thought he couldn’t sink any lower, he’s now sunk into the mud at the bottom of the river he’s thrown himself into. I’ve already unsubscribed from his channels, it was hard to do, but I had to.
I still love his music, I keep having to remind myself that its ok to enjoy the creation even if the creator is horrid. Every time his music goes through my head, I get this wave of deep sadness.
I predict that in the following week, as the news spreads further, he’s probably going to backtrack even more as this all avalanches onto him. Deleting your twitter and making it so no one can comment on your videos isn’t going to shield you from the consequences of what you say.
Poor bastard, he had world wide recognition, adoration and respect. Now its on fire, soon it will be gone.
I’m not sure what his supposed purpose was. Is this one of those things where unless every single feminist is nice and cups his balls, then feminism is bad? Would he totally be a feminist if we’d just graciously accept that some dudes just think that women should be treated like trainable sex dispensers?
“Experiment”, like “satire” and “joke”, is a word that does not mean what these dinguses think it means.