Have you heard? The upcoming Ghostbusters reboot will feature women in the lead roles. Men who hate women seem to be taking the news hard.
And nowhere do they seem to be taking it harder than on MGTOW HQ, a forum devoted to men who are “Going Their Own Way” from women by talking about how much they suck online all day every day.
The assembled MGTOWers have not only determined that the movie will suck but have also figured out why.
So here are the Top 3 Reasons the New All-Female Ghostbusters Will Suck According to a Bunch of Guys Who Hate Women:
1) Because women can’t invent things.
As some dude calling himself TheShaman writes:
Obviously its not gonna be a team of women who created the technology to be ghostbusters- women don’t create anything nowadays except thugspawns and epic fails.
2) Because women are a bunch of copycats.
Mongolking explains:
Your movie’s a gimmick because men did it first. …
[H]ow often do women ever take a risk and do something different that was a success?
Everything they celebrate – from getting the vote, to being elected politicians, to becoming clergy, to going to college, to getting on company boards, to winning Nobel prizes – men had not only done first, they created it out of nothing.
So now we have a group of low ambition women wanting to feminise “Ghostbusters”. That’s the very definition of “uninteresting”.
3) Because everyone knows that women are scared of ghosts. And mice.
TheShaman again:
Women are usually the ones screaming ABOUT ghosts- In an already outlandish plot, we’re now expected to suspend our sense of disbelief to the extent that the very segment of the population that is usually victimized BY ghosts is going to “protect us?” Hell, anything to do with ____BUSTING, whether it be rodent busting, bug busting, etc- its done on the whim of a women who is terrified of whatever it is she wants to eradicate!
Unless the proton packs in the new movie are activated by women pissing themselves in fear, I can’t imagine me enjoying anything out of this new movie.
PhilosopherStoned adds:
I’m not going to suspend disbelief and say that a gender that will jump on a chair when they see a mouse will all of a sudden not only fight ghosts, but have the initiative to start a company that does so. For a movie that where guys trap ghosts in machines, an all female crew just does not seem plausible.
So a 100-foot-tall Stay Puft marshmallow man that is an incarnation of a Sumerian god is the epitome of plausibility, but the idea of women actually starting a company is beyond the pale?
H/T — VforVanarchy on Reddit’s GamerGhazi subreddit, who found the meme I used to illustrate this post on Twitter
Donna McPhail used to be very funny too.
I don’t understand this complaint that an all-women Ghostbusters cast will destroy peoples’ childhood. For that matter, I don’t understand any of the complaints about peoples’ childhood being destroyed in discussion of pop culture topics. Ok, so a reboot happened. Or prequels happened. Your childhood still exists. Superboy didn’t punch reality and retcon your history such that your childhood happened differently (and it’s not like you’d remember if he had). Your childhood memories still exist. Your nostalgia still exists.
No, this “waaaaah, they’re ruining my childhood” is a cover for something else. In the case of those whining about 4 women being cast as Ghostbusters, it’s obvious they’re really being sexist tools.
Here’s an anecdote for this MRA:
A few years back, at this restaurant I worked at, a bunch of MALE employees were gathered around the security cameras in the office watching video of a container of rice falling off a table onto the floor. At night. After every human being was gone. What was their proposed mechanism for the rice falling? A ghost. And they freaked the hell out. I was the only person there who said maybe it was a mouse or a rat. Or maybe the table was unstable or not completely level with the floor. Basically, I tried to argue that it makes sense to rule out possible explanations before jumping to a nonsensical, supernatural explanation. None of them were having it. Had to be a ghost. And remember, these men freaked out.
As for anything to do with ____BUSTING…plenty of men are scared of rats, snakes, and roaches (you may as well put me in the last group; I’m not scared of them per se, but they make me jump and they’re creepy as all get out). This guy acts like all women are scared of the supernatural (and I love how he assumes that ghosts are real), rodents, or bugs. Nothing sexist about that at all. And of course he conveniently ignores the fact that a ton of men are scared of the same things.
I’ll add Rita Rudner to the list of female comics I would pay (actually have paid) to see.
Re garter snakes: I’ve probably caught at least 200 in my life — usually when I’m mowing the lawn, and I want to make sure that they are well away from the area I’m mowing. (Same with toads and frogs,) I have been bitten several times — never enough to draw blood because they have small teeth and chew more than bite. A few times I’ve watched one try to get through my hide without success. I’ve kept them for a few days in the past and never got bitten by one after the initial capture, so maybe they have an instinct to bite in the hope of surprising you into letting them go. They also have an instinct to defecate when caught (really stinks) but I’ve never had one do that when being handled after the original capture. They seem to acquiesce to captivity but are hard to feed.
Some years ago I had to trap two skunks that were starting to interact with our cats. I used a Havahart trap. Having caught one of them, I approached very cautiously but was able to pick up the trap, carry it to my car, and drive off to a more appropriate habitat. The skunk gave me a very reproachful look but did not spray. Same with the second. Perhaps they have an instinct not to spray unless they have a clear escape route.
I also love centipedes, but THEY ARE NOT BETTER THAN CATS.
No.
dhag85:
I did not know such a place existed. You’re lucky that in your part of the world, you don’t have to worry about standing outside on a deck overlooking a huge body of water while talking to co-workers and then having a ginormous FLYING roach land on your face.
Yes, I shrieked.
Yes, I jumped back like 15 feet.
Yes, I’m a guy.
Sorry about that ^. I thought I closed the blockquote tag, but I seems I didn’t. Wherefore can’t we edit?! The second ‘quote’ is my comment.
Tony — well, okay, except the Johnny Depp remake of Willy Wonka. That really WAS an unforgivable insult to my childhood.
I would pay to see:
Margaret Cho
Wanda Sykes (“I pussyless!”)
Sarah Silverman
Janeane Garofalo
And pretty much all the non-standup comic actresses named, as well, if they were to do standup.
Oh! And speaking of ghosts, if Gilda Radner were to come back from the dead to do standup, I’d pay to see that, too.
Man, as soon as I heard the casting, I started coming up with a script synopsis in my head.
Open with a Ouija board reading at a frat party summoning a horrible spectre. As it charges down a screaming victim, it’s trapped by two of the new Ghostbusters. Cue Ghostbusters theme. The four are university post-docs messing with plans by the late Egon Spengler, trying to justify their PhDs in Parapsychology. They’re opposed by a tenured professer in the humanities who objects to their work.
One night, a mysterious ritual in the University basement causes the smoking ecto trap to release the spectre caught in the opening sequence. Forced to deal with it, the students break out the really experimental gear, the new gen Proton packs, and naturally trash the school in the process of recapturing the spirit.
The professor demands their expulsion. At the conclusion of the meeting the Dean of the Arts department, Dana Barrett, asks if they’ve considered a career in the private sector…
It’s as if the last time they saw a woman was in the 1950s. Please. First of all, women invented all sorts of important shit (here are just a few: http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/inventions-by-women-that-changed-the-world#.tnpNRjl66). The most commonly known inventions are ones invented by males thanks to patriarchy, which doesn’t like to give women credit (note the details for entry #14, on the list, as an example). Further, patriarchy is responsible for holding women back on getting the vote, being elected politicians, becoming clergy, going to college, getting on company boards, and winning Nobel prizes… which isn’t something that men should be proud of. Rather, they should be absolutely ashamed that a patriarchal society held back other human beings from the privileges that they enjoyed. I also wouldn’t discount women from being involved in the process of advancing the structure of politics, business, and scientific research… they often just had to settle for someone male stealing the credit.
Finally, I catch spiders and set them free, because I’m not a wuss, nor am I an epic douche who would kill them unnecessarily, like some people. I think mice are cute, but because I don’t like them drag-racing in my ceiling, nor the droppings they leave, I leave them to my cat’s capable jaws (because I’ve tried catching them live, and it doesn’t work). I’m also not afraid of ghosts, because I’m not afraid of something that doesn’t even exist. What I AM afraid of is structurally unsound buildings which could be a hazard for people to traipse through while “ghosthunting”, because shit could rain down and injure someone. Call me practical.
I know plenty of women who are like me. The ones who fit the MRA description are a dying breed, a breed built by a system which discouraged women from being independent and self-sufficient, and praised them for being frail, weak creatures of insecure men’s fantasies.
I’d tell these MRA whiners to go fuck themselves, but I think they’re already there. I suspect that it has been awhile since they touched a boob, if ever.
My cats are actually pretty smart! Really destructive, though. I got a new pop-up cat cage for the car, since I’ll probably be moving in a few months and they’ll need to go on an extensive car ride. We’ll see how it holds up.
And speaking of funny women…
http://the-toast.net/
Also, the only animals that I have an unreasonable fear of are spiders. I do have a quite reasonable fear of dogs that are angry at me and hammerhead sharks, and I approach land crabs that have invaded my hotel suite with caution.
I also got a lizard to drop its tail when I was trying to chase it out of my rooms once. I felt bad for it, but I didn’t want it to get stepped on 🙁
LMAO It’s not HISTORICALLY ACCURATE because women are “the very segment of the population that is usually victimized by ghosts.” I think I figured out why TheShaman has his undies in such a bunch about this: Everything that has ever happened in a movie is definitely real and representative. Therefore when this movie comes out all 3 of the real-life ladies TheShaman knows will suddenly become equipment-toting, poultergeist-whipping, wise-cracking badasses and he won’t know how to deal.
@AltoFronto
I think there were a lot of [ ɹ ], [ ʃ ] and [ tʃ ] sounds. ‘Sher ba kurr churr hap la rersh herpa derp derp perch.’
@Tony
NOPE. NOPE.
Huge fan of the Ghostbusters. Got the movies, the comics, the game, whole deal. And While in general these reboot or whatever they call them are never great, this one at least could be fun. I mean it’s got the support of Both Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd and those guys know comedy and it got Melissa McCarty the second funniest woman in the world. Kristen Schaal being the first. (She could also be the funniest person in the world period)
@Leftwingfox: great ideas
Saphy
He’s a doctor… Don’t most doctors walk around with 300 CC’s of Thorazine? But that is actually very disturbing. I think the doctor thing might be how I never noticed that until now. And it’s been yeeeears since I’ve sen it.
But I also wonder how they’ll do it. Will they be just gender swaps of the original characters? I can’t help but look at the cast and try to figure who is going to play who. (Part of me hates to admit wanting to see that, though I’d also like completely original characters.) I really really hope it is a full on reboot and not a “30 years later…” type plot, though.
Honestly, I’ve been looking forward to the new Ghostbusters since it’s been hinted at. Finding out that not one… not two… but all FOUR will be women just blew me away. So cool.
Shappi Khorsandi…
My cat’s day yesterday:
Woke me up by meowing, then fell asleep.
Went to the bathroom, came out sliding on his ass leaving piles of poop all over the floor.
Jumped up on the kitchen table and licked his butt for 10 minutes.
Fell asleep on top of my wife’s computer.
Had vivid dream which made his tail spin.
Woke up, turned around, fell asleep again.
Woke up, showed signs of trying to throw up on said computer.
Got picked up by me, puked in the air.
Tried to eat puke.
Started a fight with the other cat.
Saw something in the ceiling and meowed at it for 30 minutes.
This morning:
Meowed at the ceiling.
Seriously, cat, get it together.
HA! I was looking up opinions about the the Thorazine thing and stumbled into a Ghostbusters fan-forum. Out of morbid curiosity I checked out the opinions about the new ghostbusters. While many seemed more pissed about a reboot instead of a direct sequel, there were a few like this:
*sigh*
All men: Not a political statement.
All women: Political statement.
(bonus points for the “I have nothing against X, but…)
“How dare women spit upon the memory of Ghostbusters II” I hadn’t even thought of that. Excellent point.
Does anyone else find it a little strange that well the cast is now all female the racial mix is exactly the same? I hope it not a total reboot. I mean I want an original plot with some non-plot line connections but it can only be to the movies peril to try to erase or replace the first film. Pay your respects to it then move to make it their own
It is really creepy in hindsight, especially given his earlier characterisation, but think it was just supposed to be a random plot device with no deeper meaning and some doctors (or, at least, the ones in my family) do carry around veritable pharmacies of God-knows-what with them “Just in case.” (Which saved mum’s life a few years ago after she had a DVT embolism, so I don’t complain about how weird it seems to me anymore. =P)
Ellen DeGeneres. Not only is she damn funny no matter what she does and a generally A+ person behind the scenes, but the world’s acceptance of her as one of the first open lesbians in Celebrity Land helped me come to terms with my own sexuality. Even in some alternate universe where didn’t find her to be a laugh riot, I’d owe her the ticket just out of thanks.