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The Top 3 Reasons the All-Female Ghostbusters Will Suck, According to Some Dudes Who Hate Women

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Have you heard? The upcoming Ghostbusters reboot will feature women in the lead roles. Men who hate women seem to be taking the news hard.

And nowhere do they seem to be taking it harder than on MGTOW HQ, a forum devoted to men who are “Going Their Own Way” from women by talking about how much they suck online all day every day.

The assembled MGTOWers have not only determined that the movie will suck but have also figured out why.

So here are the Top 3 Reasons the New All-Female Ghostbusters Will Suck According to a Bunch of Guys Who Hate Women:

1) Because women can’t invent things.

As some dude calling himself TheShaman writes:

Obviously its not gonna be a team of women who created the technology to be ghostbusters- women don’t create anything nowadays except thugspawns and epic fails.

2) Because women are a bunch of copycats.

Mongolking explains:

Your movie’s a gimmick because men did it first. …

[H]ow often do women ever take a risk and do something different that was a success?

Everything they celebrate – from getting the vote, to being elected politicians, to becoming clergy, to going to college, to getting on company boards, to winning Nobel prizes – men had not only done first, they created it out of nothing.

So now we have a group of low ambition women wanting to feminise “Ghostbusters”. That’s the very definition of “uninteresting”.

3) Because everyone knows that women are scared of ghosts. And mice.

TheShaman again:

Women are usually the ones screaming ABOUT ghosts- In an already outlandish plot, we’re now expected to suspend our sense of disbelief to the extent that the very segment of the population that is usually victimized BY ghosts is going to “protect us?” Hell, anything to do with ____BUSTING, whether it be rodent busting, bug busting, etc- its done on the whim of a women who is terrified of whatever it is she wants to eradicate!

Unless the proton packs in the new movie are activated by women pissing themselves in fear, I can’t imagine me enjoying anything out of this new movie.

PhilosopherStoned adds:

I’m not going to suspend disbelief and say that a gender that will jump on a chair when they see a mouse will all of a sudden not only fight ghosts, but have the initiative to start a company that does so. For a movie that where guys trap ghosts in machines, an all female crew just does not seem plausible.

So a 100-foot-tall Stay Puft marshmallow man that is an incarnation of a Sumerian god is the epitome of plausibility, but the idea of women actually starting a company is beyond the pale?

H/T — VforVanarchy on Reddit’s GamerGhazi subreddit, who found the meme I used to illustrate this post on Twitter

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Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
10 years ago

Actually, it’s about ethics in ghostbusting.

Am I first??

Falconer
Falconer
10 years ago

Re: Sekhmet.

Are any of you guys familiar with Inonibird on Tumblr, and their Egyptian Stick Figure Gods?

http://inonibird.tumblr.com/post/73007660820/stick-gods-catfight

contrapangloss
10 years ago

…that mouse is my new favorite mouse.

Thanks, Katz!

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Epicurus actively opened his school of philosophy to women back in 3rd century BC Athens, and is generally considered to be the first of the Greek scholars to do so. (Others of his era allowed a few women in first, but always as exceptions for specific people, whereas Epicurus made it a general opening.) He also taught slaves.

Hail Epicurus! Even if his name IS now synonymous with culinary excess, he was actually kind of awesome. Sappho, too — she taught poetics to male and female students alike, and was actively bisexual, at least if her love poems are anything to go by. Also independent and mulish as hell. But then, the isle of Lesbos was renowned for its uppity wimmin….

In general I’m sick to death of reboots and retreads, but remaking one of my favorite movies with all women – including Melissa McCarthy – is fine with me. I can’t even (in a good way)!

Same here. If you’re going to remake an oldie (snzzzzzz), you might as well go big. And what’s bigger than a gender reversal?

AltoFronto
AltoFronto
10 years ago

Ooh, congrats on the level-up, Contrapangloss. With actual fire-fighter skills, you’d be more than qualified to be a Ghostbuster, I’ll bet. 😀

The UK is teeming with ghost stories, especially in our older towns. My home town was home to not only dozens of ghosts, but also a world-famous witch. I’ve heard disembodied children’s laughter in one of my local cafes, and whenever anyone’s gaffa tape mysteriously vanished at my dad’s work, it was always attributed the the mischief of the theatre’s ghost. One of my friends from school told me that her mum had once come into her room and caught her talking to someone she couldn’t see. Her young daughter cheerfully explained that it was just a boy called Jack and he was a stable-boy.

Even in the face of well-documented hauntings, we’re all disappointingly unfazed by it all.

Then I’d tell the other kids to go hide somewhere, and I’d go hide in a different spot, dreaming up elaborate gadgets to help me capture/defeat the others, while narrating my thought process out loud in pretend English.

@dhag85 – I’m assuming from this that English isn’t your first language? I’m really curious what English sounds like to non-English speakers, just from a linguistic nerd point of view. 😀 Obviously, you’re fluent now, but do you remember what your “pretend English” sounded like?

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
10 years ago

I for one am super excited for this movie. Kristen Wiig? YES! Melissa McCarthy? YES! Bridesmaids and The Heat were both HILARIOUS. I don’t have cable so I don’t know the other two ladies. But damn, this has gotta be good!

Karalora
Karalora
10 years ago

You named your cat Sekhmet. I like it. Though it sounds like the cat in question is a little vague on the ‘warrior’ aspect.

She is in fact the most mellow cat that ever lived. I have the worst instincts when it comes to naming pets after mythological or folkloric figures. I used to have a dog called Puck, who was routinely outsmarted by his own biscuits.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

Actually, it’s about ethics in ghostbusting.

Am I first??

You are! And your prize is a…uh…Golden Ectoplasm! (yeah, that’s it!)

Also, I’m kind of tickled that the Russian word for mouse is “mish”. Or is that “meesh”? I keep forgetting which i-character is which sound…

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

Dhag85, and more than that, we know that Hollywood producers cite that there are people like them when making movies.

The really annoying part is that their infantile behavior actually does shape culture.

Yup. The Hathor Legacy had some great posts on this back in the day. This one’s the classic: Why film schools teach screenwriters not to pass the Bechdel test

There’s a racial element, too. Latin@s make up about 1/3 of American moviegers (despite being ~1/6 of the overall population) – when was the last time we saw a Latin@ lead, let alone an all-Latin@ cast? There are all-black movies, of course, but they end up being the butt of white comedians’ jokes.

Matriarchal societies existed in ancient Greece, and ancient Greek myths seem to chronical the outside influence that converted them into patriarchal ones. Do women get to claim the creation of structured government? Are men just copycats for being kings?

I didn’t know this and I’d like to see your sources, but also, the actually egalitarian nations of the Haudenosanee (“Iroquois”) Confederation had a major influence on the formation of the US Constitution. Take that, American MRAs: your beloved country was formed of ideas borrowed from women. Brown women. (Obviously the influence could have been greater; Haudenosanee women were allowed to vote).

Men complaining about being oppressed are so unoriginal. Women have been oppressed for ages, and now all of a sudden men want in on it. Go invent your own stuff, dudes!

YESSSSSSSS

Cyberwulf
Cyberwulf
10 years ago

You know, these guys wouldn’t even *have* Ghostbusters if a teenage girl hadn’t invented modern science fiction.

katz
10 years ago

You are! And your prize is a…uh…Golden Ectoplasm! (yeah, that’s it!)

Given the context, ew.

Mouse Farts
Mouse Farts
10 years ago

I used to have a dog called Puck, who was routinely outsmarted by his own biscuits.

*dissolves into giggles*

My two cats aren’t the brightest either. One of them keeps burying his food bowl – he gets really intense and anxious about it, and will spend upwards of an hour industriously pulling open a dresser drawer to slowly pull the clothes out, drag them over to the food bowl, and cover it. If he can’t get to clothes or papers, I’ll find all his toys arranged carefully on top of his food.

Then he panics because he’s hungry and can’t find anything to eat. I’ll have to walk him over to the bowl and uncover it for him, and then it is like MANA FROM HEAVEN, OMG HOW DID YOU DO THAT

StarStorm
10 years ago

PhilosopherStoned lives up to his name, because he’s clearly been watching saturday morning cartoons while out of his goddamn gourd.

freshlysqueezedcynic
freshlysqueezedcynic
10 years ago

“Does he think political women never existed until the 19th amendment?”

Eleanor of Aquitaine is a myth made up by feminism to scare MRAs.

JD
JD
10 years ago

just curious- can anyone name ONE comedienne whose standup you would buy a ticket for?

Yeah…me neither

ceebarks
10 years ago

If you are old enough that the original “Ghostbusters” was a major part of your childhood, then aren’t you also far too old to be threatened by a remake?

skybison
skybison
10 years ago

^Just like Hatshepsut. Feminists travelled back in time to plant evidence of her reign.

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

I wonder what they’ll say when they realize the all-female recast was Bill Murray’s idea, and two of the leads were his suggestions…

If you’re going to remake an oldie (snzzzzzz), you might as well go big. And what’s bigger than a gender reversal?

Yep. Though I’ll settle for reboots that do something different or interesting with the material. The Star Trek reboots have been underwhelming, but they at least have that whole “these and the originals are both canon because time travel” thing going for them.

theomegaconstant
10 years ago

Just wait until they find out that Kate McKinnon will be one of the new Ghostbusters. She’s a very attractive woman who is openly gay, which will undoubtedly anger them to no end. I know how ticked off they get at good-looking women they aren’t allowed to have sex with, even though they’re super-nice guys and all.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

I’m not going to suspend disbelief and say that a gender that will jump on a chair when they see a mouse will all of a sudden not only fight ghosts, but have the initiative to start a company that does so. For a movie that where guys trap ghosts in machines, an all female crew just does not seem plausible.

I just can’t stop laughing at this. Dude, you suspended disbelief long enough to believe that women scream and jump on chairs when they see a mouse. That’s something they only ever do in old movies (which are notoriously far removed from reality, even that of their own day) — or cartoons! I bet you’ve never seen a real one do that! Also, “guys trap ghosts in machines” is something that only ever happens in movies. In real life, ghosts don’t work like that. And neither do machines. Why would a gender swap entail such a great suspension of disbelief while all the rest of these clearly fictional tropes don’t?

Irony…it is clearly lost on these guys.

lith
lith
10 years ago

AltoFronto:

The city I live in has at least 4 of “the most haunted pub in Britain”.

I’m quite excited to see this reboot. There’s actually guaranteed to be something different about it other than the quality of the effects. I have some small hope it won’t hold to stereotypes – I’d rather see them directly play their male equivalents if they’re planning to make it all pink and ‘feminine’.

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
10 years ago

In my house, my mom kills the creepy-crawlies. Dad and I are both afraid of them. Mom hates snakes, and I’m not bothered by them, so it all works out.

I’ve never minded mice, though they do make you worry about hantavirus and the like. I always felt bad when I heard a trap snap shut, as a kid. They’re so darn cute.

And I always thought having one tiny garter snake in the basement was infinitely preferable to having spiders.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
10 years ago

I loved mice and rats as a kid—to the point of wanting to be one when I grew up—and used to try to befriend the few I came across. Sadly, the fuzzy little ingrates all predator-zoned me.

Also, I watched the spinoff cartoon for Ghostbusters religiously.

Friday Jones
Friday Jones
10 years ago

I ain’t ‘fraud of no tropes!

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

Do garter snakes bite?

A story about a woman who gets a snake in the house. (no jumping on chairs)

http://alldownunder.com/australian-authors/henry-lawson/drovers-wife.htm

The drover, an ex-squatter, is away with sheep. His wife and children are left here alone.
Four ragged, dried-up-looking children are playing about the house. Suddenly one of them yells: “Snake! Mother, here’s a snake!”
The gaunt, sun-browned bushwoman dashes from the kitchen, snatches her baby from the ground, holds it on her left hip, and reaches for a stick

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