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The Top 3 Reasons the All-Female Ghostbusters Will Suck, According to Some Dudes Who Hate Women

Yes, there's already a meme.
Yes, there’s already a meme.

Have you heard? The upcoming Ghostbusters reboot will feature women in the lead roles. Men who hate women seem to be taking the news hard.

And nowhere do they seem to be taking it harder than on MGTOW HQ, a forum devoted to men who are “Going Their Own Way” from women by talking about how much they suck online all day every day.

The assembled MGTOWers have not only determined that the movie will suck but have also figured out why.

So here are the Top 3 Reasons the New All-Female Ghostbusters Will Suck According to a Bunch of Guys Who Hate Women:

1) Because women can’t invent things.

As some dude calling himself TheShaman writes:

Obviously its not gonna be a team of women who created the technology to be ghostbusters- women don’t create anything nowadays except thugspawns and epic fails.

2) Because women are a bunch of copycats.

Mongolking explains:

Your movie’s a gimmick because men did it first. …

[H]ow often do women ever take a risk and do something different that was a success?

Everything they celebrate – from getting the vote, to being elected politicians, to becoming clergy, to going to college, to getting on company boards, to winning Nobel prizes – men had not only done first, they created it out of nothing.

So now we have a group of low ambition women wanting to feminise “Ghostbusters”. That’s the very definition of “uninteresting”.

3) Because everyone knows that women are scared of ghosts. And mice.

TheShaman again:

Women are usually the ones screaming ABOUT ghosts- In an already outlandish plot, we’re now expected to suspend our sense of disbelief to the extent that the very segment of the population that is usually victimized BY ghosts is going to “protect us?” Hell, anything to do with ____BUSTING, whether it be rodent busting, bug busting, etc- its done on the whim of a women who is terrified of whatever it is she wants to eradicate!

Unless the proton packs in the new movie are activated by women pissing themselves in fear, I can’t imagine me enjoying anything out of this new movie.

PhilosopherStoned adds:

I’m not going to suspend disbelief and say that a gender that will jump on a chair when they see a mouse will all of a sudden not only fight ghosts, but have the initiative to start a company that does so. For a movie that where guys trap ghosts in machines, an all female crew just does not seem plausible.

So a 100-foot-tall Stay Puft marshmallow man that is an incarnation of a Sumerian god is the epitome of plausibility, but the idea of women actually starting a company is beyond the pale?

H/T — VforVanarchy on Reddit’s GamerGhazi subreddit, who found the meme I used to illustrate this post on Twitter

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alaisvex
alaisvex
10 years ago

I’m the same with centipedes. They freak out and thinking of them actually gives me chills, but if I actually see one, I smash it and give it a burial at sea, so to speak.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

Now, I need coffee, but am I the only one seeing then inherent “MRAs are only remotely for the rights of the ‘right kind’ of men”?

Considering that Dean Esmay had never even heard of stop and frisk?

https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/07/11/how-to-lose-a-debate-in-45-minutes-paul-elam-fumbles-his-debate-with-matt-binder/

maistrechat
10 years ago

Glad to see you back contrapangloss!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Alaisvex — you’re half right on the “thugspawn” thing, but I’ve never seen them use anything remotely that racist to refer to biracial kids with a black mother — that’d mean insulting a white guy. (Well, for a narrow definition of race, since Hispanic and African American would be racial and blah. But they only get offended by white women having babies with “thugs”, which is definitely racist asshole for “black”.)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

It’s contrapangloss! Someone I recognize! I just came back myself and was all “so many new faces”, good to see you 🙂

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I hate to do any fandom gatekeeping, but if they have trouble with female horror protagonists they’re not true horror fans. The majority of horror protagonists are women or girls. A lot of the horror fandom is female too. In fact, Ghostbusters was one of the things that kicked off my lifelong love of the genre even though it’s more of a comedy. So they need to stop prattling on about their childhoods. Those movies were never just for boys.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Thug is definitely the new n word. It came into popularity when Obama took office. It didn’t used to have racial connotations but it’s become a racist dog whistle lately.

dhag85
10 years ago

@Falconer

I’m not a great speller, so I’ll still call them insects. If it walks like and insect and grosses me out like an insect..

Nequam
Nequam
10 years ago

Thought — feminists: “thug” is a racist term, knock it off. MRAs: we’ll insult men of color how ever we want, cuz you stupid women get knocked up and they take men for every penny in child support!

I wonder also if the legendary (and racist) virility and endowment of black men isn’t a factor here too. “They only want a big swingin’ dick, those bitches!”

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

“Thugspawn”, ugh. Again with the Everlasting Sperm Theory…any woman who has sex with a black man has black-man cooties up the wazoo forever! Gross! Can’t bang, I’d be tainted! Etc.

These migtoes are not only racists, they’re idiots who can’t biology.

Miss Diketon
Miss Diketon
10 years ago

“I’m not going to suspend disbelief and say that a gender that will jump on a chair when they see a mouse will all of a sudden not only fight ghosts, but have the initiative to start a company that does so. For a movie that where guys trap ghosts in machines, an all female crew just does not seem plausible.”

Has any woman ever jumped on a chair to escape a mouse outside of a TOM AND JERRY CARTOON!!! And that’s the least stupid statement in the above mentioned paragraph.

/I am intrigued by the women-centered Ghostbusters reboot, I love the casting.

ryeash
10 years ago

Bleah, centipedes. You’d think living in several houses/apartments infested with them, I’d have gotten used to them. Instead, it takes me 10 minutes of fear paralysis to even smack them with a rolled up magazine (can’t and won’t use anything thinner).

Ghosts, on the other hand–I’ve gone ghost hunting in several towns on many, many occasions. I don’t even necessarily believe in all that, but it’s fun and creepy. Enjoying adrenaline is not limited to men. I’m convinced the MRM is a bunch of kids who think everything in sitcoms/hack stand-up routines is real. You have to either be young with zero knowledge of the real world or just a special kind of stupid to buy into the gender stereotypes as completely as those asshats. My money’s on a mix of the two for the majority.

Falconer
Falconer
10 years ago

@dhag85: Cool, I probably shouldn’t have gone all prissy-faced about it. Sorry.

dhag85
10 years ago

@Falconer

No problem, but you do realize it was a joke, right? I’m not actually trying to convince you that shrimp are insects.

Falconer
Falconer
10 years ago

… I’m tired. Sorry. It just flew right over my head.

katz
10 years ago

Maybe thugspawn are tadpoles that beat up the other tadpoles.

Bina
Bina
10 years ago

I wonder also if the legendary (and racist) virility and endowment of black men isn’t a factor here too. “They only want a big swingin’ dick, those bitches!”

Having seen my share of black dongs outside of porn, I have to laugh at this fallacy. And I do laugh. So. HARD. Black men aren’t appreciably bigger than white men (at least not there), and in fact are within the same approximate penile size range overall, but damn how that slave-era myth does persist…

skybison
skybison
10 years ago

Well I admit I am against the “remake everything, don’t try anything new” direction of hollywood these days, this is so petty I’ve got nothing to say. Do these guys hate the movie Alien too because Ripley didn’t jump on top of a chair screaming when she saw the xeomorph?

PS I love centipedes. Seriously I never got why everyone hates them. They are way better then cats.

Misha
Misha
10 years ago

Brilliant, I was just discussing this (the OP) last night. The psychic powers of WHTM.

The consensus vote was that a lot of folks aren’t thrilled with the idea of the Ghost Busters reboot casting women in the lead roles. At first I said, “Say whaaaaat?? You GUIZE!”, but the less-than-thrilled atmosphere was mostly due to folk’s wariness with Hollywood and it’s leery track record with women’s roles and representations. Mix that in with the hidiously handled hash of recent reboots (don’t mention Teenage Mutant Ninja Fail) and I kinda get why things might not bode well.

the very segment of the population that is usually victimized BY ghosts is going to “protect us?”

Ah ha ha ha. Ha. Oh MGTOW, what would we do without you.

… well, we’d know if they’d just GTOW already. Sheesh.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
10 years ago

@kirbywarp:

Back before college was a thing, women were students that learned things (depending on where and when you look, anyway).

Heck, Epicurus actively opened his school of philosophy to women back in 3rd century BC Athens, and is generally considered to be the first of the Greek scholars to do so. (Others of his era allowed a few women in first, but always as exceptions for specific people, whereas Epicurus made it a general opening.) He also taught slaves.

So, yeah, we have documentation of women as students going back at least a couple of millennia.

@karalora:

Well, I more yelled than screamed. What I yelled was “Get it, Sekhmet! No, don’t let it go! What kind of cat are you? Do I have to do everything around here?”

You named your cat Sekhmet. I like it. Though it sounds like the cat in question is a little vague on the ‘warrior’ aspect.

Misha
Misha
10 years ago

I love centipedes. Seriously I never got why everyone hates them. They are way better then cats.

The Furrinati are NOT PLEASED.

jparsons42
jparsons42
10 years ago

Having seen my share of black dongs outside of porn, I have to laugh at this fallacy. And I do laugh. So. HARD. Black men aren’t appreciably bigger than white men (at least not there), and in fact are within the same approximate penile size range overall, but damn how that slave-era myth does persist…

There actually is some variation (w/in a couple inches) of flaccid penis size based on national origin, it turns out. Peeps from equatorial climes tend to have slightly larger flaccid Johnsons than those from colder places. (Not a big difference though, and we’re talking averages.) When erect, though, yep, they’re all about “yea big.”

katz
10 years ago

Mice are adorable. Particularly when they’re struggling with comically oversized crackers.

emilygoddess - MOD
emilygoddess - MOD
10 years ago

In general I’m sick to death of reboots and retreads, but remaking one of my favorite movies with all women – including Melissa McCarthy – is fine with me. I can’t even (in a good way)!

the very segment of the population that is usually victimized BY ghosts

He does realize ghosts (at least as depicted in Ghostbusters) don’t actually exist, right?

BigMomma
BigMomma
10 years ago

OMG I loved Ghostbusters, I was 14 when it came out and I went to the cinema 10 times with my 2 girlfriends to see it. We were obsessed. We wrote a sequel to it, which featured 3 plucky girls. My mum typed it up and told me she had sent it to them (of course she hadn’t). My other friend somehow managed to wangle a backstage visit with BB King at the Edinburgh Playhouse and gave him a copy. Sadly, despite our best efforts, Bill Murray did not jet into Edinburgh to whisk us off to Hollywood fame and fortune.