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Feminism's inevitable death spiral explained in simple infographic

Woah, dude. It's like it's actually spinning.
Woah, dude. It’s like it’s actually spinning.

Well, fellow members of the feminist sector, it’s been fun. But we’re all doomed, as this helpful infographic, prepared by Men’s Rights Edmonton, makes clear:

feminismdeathspiral

Ok, maybe “clear” isn’t the word I was looking for. Also, I left out the first part of the diagram. Does this make it any clearer?

feminismdeathspiral2

Hmm. Is it too small? Here’s the whole thing, full sized.

That didn’t help either?

All right, then let this young fellow in the hippie costume with the obviously fake beard and the, uh, big knife, explain it in this video.

I’m being told that this is not actually someone in a hippie costume with a fake beard, but Nick Reading of Men’s Rights Edmonton, and this is just how he looks now. The knife thing is a little creepy but I suppose it’s still better than when he looked like this:

nickreadingevil

And, no, I didn’t draw that or project it onto your computer screen direct from my nightmares; that’s from a pamphlet Reading put together to promote his joke candidacy for Edmonton City Council as a member of the Patriarchy Party.

I’m not sure these MRAs understand public relations quite as well as they think they do.

H/T — r/GamerGhazi on Reddit

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maistrechat
5 years ago

With the whole “unicorn feminists” thing, I have to wonder if this chart didn’t start out as an attempt to explain Ax cop.

Maybe the unicorn feminists can team up with Sockarang.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

I love the way they concoct whole sociological phenomena whole cloth and then just assert them to be the truth.

As a feminist, I’m annoyed at their sexism, their hate, and their pettiness. But that’s not new.

But as a skeptic they’re just coming from a laughably bullshit place. Look at that first graph, it’s clearly well crafted visually, with a lot of time and effort, but when it comes to the things it actually says.
1. It’s a bare assertion that feminists lie, and
2. An intuitive guess that lies create opposed ideologues.
3. A ex culo idea of “intensification”.

That’s it. Complete nonsense. Bullshit they tell themselves to make themselves feel better.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
5 years ago

Maybe the unicorn feminists can team up with Sockarang.

“The Bavarian Illuminati, with the assistance of the Unicorn Feminists and the Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow, are going to attack to control the Boy Sprouts.”

“The Trekkies are going to contribute to defense!”

Sorry, but these guys are so much into conspiracy theories, the Illumniati card game really would be the perfect game for them. If they didn’t take it so seriously.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

Jenora, only they’d make the central Illuminati “SJWs”.

SJW
You may make privileged attacks on any
group you accuse of having privilege

Power Income
7/7 8

Secret goal:
Destroy 5 white or male groups

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

Er… oops.

Is there any true type fonts we can use?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

The more I stare at the graph, the more it resembles the perpetual failed dialectic of MRAs struggling to come to terms with the fact that women poop.*

*cut their hair, have jobs, (insert modern horror here)

Each fresh outrage keeps circling around and around and around in their minds like a turkey vulture.

Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
5 years ago

I like how if this graph is intestines, the target zone is an asshole.

Flora
Flora
5 years ago

If Beck watched Princess Mononoke, obviously he’d be rooting for Jigo (the monk) who is spoiler alert, busy manipulating everybody for profit regardless of the cost of human/animal/plant/?god life.

seraph4377
5 years ago

Actually, I can see a scenario where Santa Claus is pretty badass – he’s based on Odin’s “Yule Father” aspect, after all, and the Father Christmas that showed up in the 2007 version of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe had a certain power to him.

However, I suspect that Glenn Beck has no clue about the former, and isn’t interested in the latter because his power wasn’t actualized as violence – in the end, he was God’s Quartermaster, not a front-line warrior.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

I guess someone told them that, for publicity outreach, they need to find the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I snurk’d.

And yeah, that “death spiral” diagram totally looks like a badly-rendered diagram of a human poop chute. Which I guess is no surprise, seeing as that’s where it came from.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

Yet another amusing thing about the diagram: it basically states that in order for the anti-feminists to achieve their goals of making feminism a dirty word, they have to do…

Nothing.

According to the diagram, feminism is self-defeating, and will naturally spiral into the ground and become viewed as an ideology that is as distasteful as racism. So all their sitting on their bum whining on the internet is fine.

Never mind that feminism has been around for hundreds of years, and the latest “wave” of feminism has been around for decades. If feminism were as unstable as they claim, you’d think it’d be gone by now. Yet somehow it’s gaining strength, which requires these guys to make endless charts and arguments that it’s really failing, any day now.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

@kirby

Like the opposite of Gamergate, which keeps trying to prove that they’re still popular and relevant and totally about ethics.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@sunnysombrera:

Did you see the “advertisement” they put out for themselves? srssrsly linked it over here. Now they are no longer a movement about ethics in games journalism, they are instead a group of enlightened internetters reaching out to the brainwashed consumers of… google and twitter and stuff.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

Yet another amusing thing about the diagram: it basically states that in order for the anti-feminists to achieve their goals of making feminism a dirty word, they have to do…

Nothing.

Which then begs the question: Why bother with shitty diagrams? Why not just let the process take care of itself, and go find something better to do, something that doesn’t demand the “artistic” skills of a Neckbeard Nicky? Why hate on feminism if it’s making itself irrelevant? It’s like putting up billboards telling people to hate on bellbottoms, or something. Oh gee, what could the real reason be? Could it be that feminism…

…ACTUALLY ISN’T A LIE? That it’s a real thing, with real purposes behind it? That none of these purposes is in fact female supremacy, but rather a levelling of the playing field (which is very lumpy and badly tilted right now) and a liberation of women from being constantly at the mercy and disposal of the men? And that one very specific purpose of feminism…is as a tool of analysis for seeing through the lies told by men in order to maintain male supremacy…which IS an actual thing?

Nah…couldn’t be!

Instapundit Dotcom (@Punditdotcom)

What’s a good name for female MRA’s who constantly call men Mangina, Purple Poodle, White Knight, and Uncle Tim, with even less empathy than male MRA’s? Something with the derogatory feel of the four names just mentioned.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

@Bina:

It’s pretty much the same thing as MGTOWs constantly shouting that they’re leaving any day now. How will feminism know it’s failing if these dudes don’t keep reminding everyone?

sparky
sparky
5 years ago

Pfft. Why should Nick Reading have to “do” anything or “make a coherent and rational argument” or worry about silly things like “facts” and “reality” or “not threateningly wave around a knife while string into a super-wide angle lens?” Expecting any of that is misandry!

laughnwitch
laughnwitch
5 years ago

Hey I thought everyone might be interested in this https://feministnetworkproject.wordpress.com/

Pavlov's House
Pavlov's House
5 years ago

Here at Pavlov’s House we note the strange assertion that feminists claim “that women are the main victims of war”; the reference (although small) to a military-related subject bringing Pavlov’s House out of lurker-mode (apologies to all whose questions we left unanswered last time….Gen. Rodimtsev having had many assignments for us, as you will easily imagine).

Feminist literature on war and its effects indeed has much to say on women during wartime, but…being the “main victims”….? How does one even define “the main victims”? Who knows what MRA’s would bring up to show that! Ironically, those who are truly concerned about the violence of war would find more allies among feminists than anti-feminists, most likely. Somehow I doubt there are many individuals with legitimate scholarly credentials in military history NOR actual military service experience (as we have previously observed on this blog) among the most vocal MRAs.

(To those who get the RKKA references and care…good for you, ye historically conscious ones.)

ktrantingredhead
5 years ago

The difference between masculists and masculinists is a fine line but here’s a simple explanation:

Masculists=douchebags
Masculinists=douchenozzles

Ken L.
5 years ago

The whole self defeating is what MRA and the right in general live on. They convince people who are on the fence that social justice issues don’t exist because outside forces in most cases capitalism solve the problem. Then by default that progressives are whining about something that doesn’t exist and are just hurting themselves in the end.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

And yeah, that “death spiral” diagram totally looks like a badly-rendered diagram of a human poop chute. Which I guess is no surprise, seeing as that’s where it came from.

The diagram explains perfectly how, whenever feminists propose an idea that is nutritious and healthy for society, MRAs attack the idea, decompose it, and emit poo and noxious gases.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

@kirby

What a stupid ad. How the fuck does the baphomet forum equip people to deal with a “corrupt media and internet”? They’re basically saying that doxxing, harassing and fapping to child porn are perfectly okay. And whatever else is on that board (no way I’m going to surf over there and take a look at the digital seventh level of hell).

Also, those little turds know nothing about being the first generation on the Internet. REMEMBER DIAL UP, BITCHES? I DIDN’T THINK SO.

Seriously, I will never forget the sound of dial-up.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Also, good news everyone! Somewhat old news too, and I’m sorry if this has been mentioned before, but last month the UK government declared that emotional and verbal abuse will be considered part of domestic abuse and thus criminalised.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/30098611

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

“Also, those little turds know nothing about being the first generation on the Internet. REMEMBER DIAL UP, BITCHES? I DIDN’T THINK SO.”

First generation? My original email address had exclamation marks in it, and when I wrote my dissertation on cybercrime it was still called Darpanet.

[Gawd, feel old now]

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Alan: I think my comment gave the impression that I am part of the first generation on the net. I am not. I didn’t get Internet until 2003. Sorry for any confusion.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

sunnysombrera: No worries. Oh, and I loved the dial-up sound too (Erk uh erk kshhhhhhh urrrr kshhhhhh beep beep ah uh eeh < my best onomatopoeia effort)

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I remember when you set up the internet via AOL CDs that would come in the mail. So cute.

dorabella
dorabella
5 years ago

hahahaha Alan, your onomatopoeia of the dial-up modem is precious! ah, the memories, I’m so old.

Adam
Adam
5 years ago

Well, I suppose we can just do what racists do, and be super feminist and then refuse to acknowledge how feminist we are. That’ll work out alright.

Fred_the_Dog
5 years ago

Oh, I remember that sound!

Rumtopf
5 years ago

@proxieme
I totally recommend Quarriors! for game night: http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/91536/quarriors

Sooo many dice, so many monsters and spells, mmmm.

paradoxicalintent
paradoxicalintent
5 years ago

Whelp, I did Google the topic of Dan’s article, and sure ‘nough, more articles came up:

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy

I think that this definitely needs more looking into. It’s a very discouraging thing to be reading.

bekabot
5 years ago

‘The Bavarian Illuminati, with the assistance of the Unicorn Feminists and the Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow, are going to attack to control the Boy Sprouts.’

‘The Trekkies are going to contribute to defense!’

I’d say that I think guys like this have seen The Warriors too many times if I thought anybody still knew what The Warriors is, but I don’t. 300 falls within the pop-cult purview of the modern day but The Warriors does not. Too bad. Stumped again, drattidy drat.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Oh God. If this really goes through Wikipedia will become Ministry of Truth, Gamergate style.

And I feel sorry for all their targets such as Wu and Sarkeesian. Their entries will be destroyed with obvious bias and no doubt many uses of gendered slurs. Still, there are plenty of other good people out there to fight the good fight and fix terrible edits. Only five have been barred.

Let the editing wars begin. :/

acrannymint
acrannymint
5 years ago

The cringe worthy ads for Cordell and Cordell are still playing here so I’d say the answer to The designer could have replaced one with “father’s rights activists”. Or are they not a presence any more? is unfortunately not.

acrannymint
acrannymint
5 years ago

I meant to say that father’s rights activists unfortunately still have a presence.
I first became involved with the internet when the only domains were .edu and .mil

seraph4377
5 years ago

@ bekabot – “The Warriors” had a big resurgence around 2006 or so. There was even a video game that apparently did pretty well. So while it may have faded a bit, it’s not completely lost in the Seventies.

katz
5 years ago

How disappointing on that Wikipedia thing after Jimmy Wales smacked down the Gamergaters so nicely.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
5 years ago

The cringe worthy ads for Cordell and Cordell are still playing here so I’d say the answer to The designer could have replaced one with “father’s rights activists”. Or are they not a presence any more? is unfortunately not.

Having just looked Cordell and Cordell up, I’m left shaking my head. It reminds me that a 1993 television film, Men Don’t Tell, seems to be having a surge of interest in it lately by fathers rights types and others who think women are domestic abusers as much as men are; it doesn’t help that the studio never released the film to home release, giving rise to rumors of a feminist conspiracy against it. The TV Tropes article rather creeps me out.

Anybody who says those things just want nothing to do with helping people; to silence them and continue being selfish and unempathetic and don’t realize how good they got it. I know I’v been around those kinds of people, they’re usually sexists, racists and homophobics.

Yes, definitely. I got the sense that if I did have a chart ready that person would have dismissed it too. It was clear he only cared about his own comfort and was loathe to have anything intrude upon it. They all were like that. A problem doesn’t exist until it effects them directly.

Jay Elmore
5 years ago

Well, there goes any possibility of Wikipedia EVER getting a dime from me.

Wikipedia’s mission is weird in that it wants to be an online repository of knowledge but has an intense bias against “original research”. So if a Nobel Prize-winning biologist wants to write an article about viral pathology, that’s not allowed. But if a someone wants to cite an anti-vaccination site, that’s OK because the information is out there.

Sure, there are editors on Wikipedia but where are their credentials? Who decided that THEY are competent to judge the worthiness of an article? Because they can use Google?

And surprise, surprise, a body that is (most likely) largely comprised of men don’t think sexism is a real problem. I promise that I will be totally shocked to learn at some point that members of the arbitration committee are sympathetic to GamerGate.

Tasha Batsford
5 years ago

I made it a whole 1:11 into the video, which is impressive because normally I’ll see any old junk through to the bitter end.

And am I the only one who sees Activated Non-Feminist and just thinks activated yeast? The mental capacities would sure be fairly similar, no?

ManyLittleDrops
ManyLittleDrops
5 years ago

Interesting that the charts start w/ the observation of feminists being unliked. Makes it clear that ‘they’ think a woman’s purpose is to be approved of by a man or men. What it completely overlooks — & which will, no doubt, REALLY piss them off — is that we do not CARE if we are liked by ‘them’. We neither need nor want anybody else’s approval. Which, I think, is ‘their’ central issue: We don’t believe ‘they’ are not superior to us.

ManyLittleDrops
ManyLittleDrops
5 years ago

But, we all do need to more readily recognize when men are victimized, & not down play it.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

It reminds me that a 1993 television film, Men Don’t Tell, seems to be having a surge of interest in it lately by fathers rights types and others who think women are domestic abusers as much as men are; it doesn’t help that the studio never released the film to home release, giving rise to rumors of a feminist conspiracy against it.

I never saw that movie, or heard of it until now. I’m guessing that the real reason for its non-release to home video was that it rated too low, or was too critically panned, to be considered worth the bother. No Great Feminist Conspiracy™ necessary.

Matthew
5 years ago

I don’t agree with everything feminism stands for, but I’m frankly worried about what men want to replace it with. Old-fashioned Christianity and chivalry was superstitious and slightly oppressive but stable, and if you were smart you’d conclude that Jesus would never promote rape and was friends with women. He once even stopped a group of hateful men from killing a prostitute with stones, remember: “Go, and sin no more.” he said to her.

But modern men here on the Internet just talk like a bunch of atheistic rapists with no spiritual ideals at all. They’re devolving into brutal animals.

marinerachel
5 years ago

….

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Because only atheists rape. I’m sure that’s exactly what Jesus would say.

Oh wait, no. Rape and sexual abuse is endemic in Christian patriarchy. It’s almost like misogynists do horrible misogynistic things whether they’re religious ornot!

eli
eli
5 years ago

Ugh. This one is shitting in all the threads 🙁