It seems like only yesterday that a Voice for Men’s Paul Elam and John “The Other” Hembling were the bestest of friends, laughing and joking together as they plotted to take over the world. Now, after an ugly falling out, the two are the worstest of enemies, and this whole MGTOW thing is making their ugly divorce even uglier.
You know that little war that Elam has going on with the MGTOWers, or more accurately, the MGTOWFAFPE (Men Going Their Own Way Far Away From Paul Elam)? Mr. Hembling and his girlfriend/comrade Diana Davison have allied themselves with Elam’s many enemies in the MGTOW world, and, well, Elam doesn’t seem to like this very much.
I present to you three recent skirmishes in their little war.
Dean Esmay, Breast Man
This first skirmish isn’t between Elam and Hembling themselves, but between each man’s most faithful lieutenant. On Elam’s side, AVFM’s “operations director” Dean Esmay; on Hembling’s side, the not-so-charming Ms. Davison, his partner in COCK. (No really, that’s the name of their organization.)
Esmay, angry at MGTOWers for mocking Elam’s new book on MGTOW, decides to lash out at Davison, whom he feels is seducing the MGTOW masses to the anti-Elam side using the power of her, erm, titties.
No, really. Here’s Esmay:
Davison’s video response (from which I got the above screenshot) is remarkably restrained, considering.
ANALYSIS: A major misstep from Esmay. Davison is a thoroughly terrible person; she’s the woman-hating woman who once wrote that “[w]omen are facing a very real and grave problem in our culture: They are obnoxious cunts.” And Esmay, through the power of his own obnoxious assholery, has managed to turn her, at least momentarily, into a sympathetic character.
Advantage, Team COCK.
John Hembling, Borrower
A writer on A Voice for Men reveals that Hembling plagiarized giant chunks of an Alternet article in a blog post of his that was later published on AVFM.
There’s really no question about it: a number of passages are similar, and one giant chunk is copied nearly word-for-word. Oops.
Hembling’s response? A video in which he breezily dismisses the charges, admitting only that he “borrowed” a couple of sentences, as if this is a thing that all writers sometimes do. Elam mocks Hembling’s glib response in a video of his own – perhaps the only time I’ve ever witnessed Elam on the right side of any argument.
Of course, the bigger question is why Elam ever thought that Hembling, a perpetual liar, could be trusted in the first place. Maybe because he doesn’t give a shit about the truth? Just a guess.
Advantage, Team Paul
The Battle of Dean Esmay’s Tooth
In what seems to be a transparent attempt to draw attention away from the whole plagiarism thing, Hembling makes a video about Dean Esmay and his missing tooth.
Esmay, you see, is missing a tooth. While Esmay sees this as somehow the fault of feminism – at least that’s what he seemed to suggest during his rather surreal appearance on a Detroit news show last summer – Hembling wonders aloud why Elam, who takes in many tens of thousands of dollars a year in donations to AVFM, can’t shell out a few bucks for some dental work for Esmay, the hardest working AVFMer of them all.
Advantage, neither. Hembling has a point, but bringing up the tooth thing is a bit of a low blow.
Stay tuned, because this war is likely to get uglier still.
It’s kind of delicious.
Do mgtow see themselves as enlightened mra’s? Like both groups kvetch on about the terribleness of wimmins but mgtow are actually doing something about it*?
*Obviously not actually doing anything about anything, but y’know.
@daintydougal, there is:
MGTOW should stand for “Men Getting into Tantrums Over Women”.
Their entire philosophy appears to be: “Women bad! Raargh!”
For some reason, “Advantage, Team COCK” in the OP is cracking me up right now.
@daintydougal It’s my first time being on the other side of a ninja’ing! There should be a commemorative hat or something to mark the occasion.
Yeah, MGTOWs don’t seem very committed to their ideology. They hate women intensely, until they find one who agrees to date them. Then it all goes out the window.
Dean’s not a woman though.
ABSOLUTELY.
MGTOWs with girlfriends, incels getting laid regularly, it’s almost like they’re just motivated by wanting to whine on the internet about how hard it is that their every want isn’t provided by the nearest woman-shaped-object.
That makes me shiver. What must being in a relationship with them be like for the women?
@WatermelonSugar
I always read it “midge-toe.”
…I think I’m going to continue reading it “midge-toe,” because it sounds funny. And having an amusing-sounding acronym is their only saving grace.
Well, that and being just plain amusing.
http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/gifs/dis-gon-be-good-dis-gonna-be-good-bear-sitting-chair-1378414300q.gif
I think the big difference is that there’s one GIRLFRIEND working with than WOMEN working for. So it’s okay if it’s your girlfriend and she knows her place and only disagrees to say something even more repulsive than the MRA does, but if she’s an actual woman making the same unreasonable and illogical arguments as the MRA would without being attached to a Leader Penis, then it’s EVIL and FEMINIST.
I used to be a “token female” with a group of (now ex-)friends and when I realized it, I stopped hanging out with them. If I am a “token”, you are not taking me seriously and probably never will.
@andiexist–
It’s fun, right? My dyslexia had me reading it as “mm-get-OW” when I first came across the term. I like that one, too.
Dan kasteray
“So who wants to bet that Paul Elam punched out Dean esmay at some point and that’s the source of the missing tooth?”
Paul said it himself that hitting men is not ok but hitting women is. So no bets here
Scarlettathena
“MGTOW should stand for “Men Getting into Tantrums Over Women”.”
Men Gonna To Obsess and Whine
Myriad
“That makes me shiver. What must being in a relationship with them be like for the women?”
Absolute Hell
Oh man, so many popcorn gifs, I can’t choose.
I may have to slightly disagree with your assessment of Point 2. I’d call it a win for “neither”. Writer on AVfM exposes that Hembling is a plagiarist. Writer also inadvertently exposes that, unless we’re supposed to believe that they just happened to coincidentally notice this just now, AVfM willingly hosted plagiarism.
I should feel bad.
But I don’t. I feel… happy…
I feel happy!
Yeah, the Team Titans.
/joke nobody will get
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Sadly I couldn’t find a gif.
I love how the MGTOWs get their shorts in a knot when trying to decide just how they should go their own way. Shouldn’t each one decide for themselves. Apparently not
Simply magnificent.
Chaltab
http://youtu.be/SXZddpxagPg
Today is hug day so everybody gets a hug! No really this actually does exist not something I made up.
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/photos/20-epic-hugs
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