Oh dear. Paul Elam’s attempt to anoint himself King of the MGTOWs doesn’t seem to be going terribly well, mainly due to the fact that the overwhelming majority of those who call themselves Men Going Their Own Way would prefer it if he went his own way off a short pier.
His new ebook on MGTOW — despite receiving rave reviews from people who work for him at A Voice for Men — has not done quite as well amongst the MGTOW masses, many of whom are posting one-star reviews on Amazon.
Their complaints are a mixture of the reasonable and the ridiculous. On the one hand, they accuse him of being a con artist trying to cash in on their little movement with an ebook made up mostly of stuff that’s already been posted on the internet. On the other, well, they think he’s some kind of quasi-feminist supplicator to women who’s committed a sort of treason against his fellow men by not banning all women from AVFM. No, really:
On their own websites, Elam’s MGTOW haters are even more blunt. Here’s what one commenter on MGTOWHQ had to say:
But my favorite response so far comes from a Youtuber who calls himself TheMadShangi. A few months ago, Mr. Shangi was a loyal AVFMer; indeed, he contributed a post to Elam’s site gleefully recounting how he’d been such a royal pain in the ass to me on Twitter that I stopped responding to him. (Or, as he put it, How I made David Futrelle cry and ragequit on Twitter.)
Well, these days he’s singing a different tune. Literally. Here’s his musical critique of Mr. Elam and his book.(The bit at the beginning is from a video Elam made baiting his MGTOW haters.)
Both sides in this MGTOW civil war are so thoroughly terrible I can only hope that they both go down in ignominious defeat, leaving us, the amused spectators, the only real winners.
Fig Newtons the branded version are crap, imo, but in the Bay Area you get lots of similar fruit bars that are made with local fruit (as we’re a fruit growing region) and wholewheat flour and so on, so basically the hippie version, that are awesome. Best ones I ever tasted were bought at a roadside stand selling local berries in Marin.
Sea monkeys! They still sell those, everywhere. Poster child for (lack of) honest advertising, they are… I still loved them.
Also, peanut butter bars are amazing. My mom makes them with a kind of crispy peanut butter base and a semi sweet chocolate top.
I need to get that recipe, one of these days.
Also, my station had the assistant chief of volunteers over to dinner. He made us (us being me and the area ‘non-live in but legit firefighters instead of my EMS/firefighter in training self’) moose-burgers and helped with detailed rig/station checks. We have the best chief.
Moose-burgers are really tasty.
Allons-y!
What does moose taste like? Venison?
The chocolate combination that always got me was how all the chocolate biscuits I bought in England had hazelnuts in them. Didn’t matter what brand or type, hazelnuts seemed to be mandatory.
Is Ben and Jerry’s hard to get outside of the US? That’s a shame. I just got some that is half hazelnut and half chocolate with a core of hazelnut fudge in the middle. It’s so delicious. I also love their coffee ice cream mixed with heath bar pieces.
Nutty bars, btw are wafers with peanut butter and chocolate. I think my love of peanut butter might be the only extremely American thing about me.
Never had venison, so I’m not sure on that front.
It’s pretty similar to beef, only leaner and has a kind of subtle spice even when it’s unseasoned. It’s kind of like a really sneaky peppery thread with some other flavor I can’t quite put a name to.
It’s good, but easy to overpower with other seasonings. Add enough extra stuff and all you end up with is something that just tastes like really lean beef.
Ben and Jerry’s is available here.
Also, flavor is kind of time of hunt dependent. Fall moose is more high end grass-fed beef flavored, and winter/spring has more of the pepper-something spice. I’m tempted to think it’s a willow tree eating thing.
Gilshalos! Have fun watching the Doctor at his cheesiest (for ten)! Beware the host.
…I just realized how often doctor who makes angels terrifying…
… Still, have fun!
Hazelnut with chocolate is awesome, but the combination I wish happened more often is walnuts with chocolate. If anyone is ever in the Bay Area there’s a place called Cafe Tibet in Berkeley where the owner is a French-trained pastry chef, and the chocolate cake with a walnut base that she makes is pretty much my favorite cake of all time.
Also, sounds like I’d like moose!
I made two coffee cakes this weekend. 🙂
I like nuts of whatever variety in a milk chocolate bar (Cadbury’s Fruit and Nut, yum), but not in biscuits. I like my chocolate biscuits just plain dark chocolate.
Coffee cakes! Yum!
I find winter/spring moose literally tastes like willow (obvs because they’re munching on willow at the time) which is nice. Definitely not as beef-like.
Interesting that it tastes more like beef than venison, since moose pretty much look like giant deer.
Moose are deer. They’re just a huge cervid with a unique face. It’s accurate to refer to their meat as venison.
This comment thread has definitely gone its own way. Maybe it should write a book.
Women (and a few men) Going Towards The Kitchen, maybe?
The kahlua icing is now on the coffee cake.
A book by this thread would be… interesting. Way more interesting than the standard MGTOW book of “How to Go Your Own Way While Never Actually Going Your Own Way”
HTGYOWWNAGYOW?
I mean, brine shrimp marketed as monkeys. 10th doctor in the voyage of the damned. Tasty moose. Fire chiefs.
The cover could be the 10th doctor wielding a Frying Pan of Doom, riding on a moose, fleeing from gold gilded angels in bunker gear.
While a bunch of brine shrimp in monkey suits sit around and laugh.
BTW, apparently male and female moose are called bull and cow, respectively. Can you apply stag and doe to reindeer/caribou?
Nope. Bull and cow is how I always hear people (at least in AK) refer to caribou.
It might just be an Alaska thing though.
I think that’s how I’ve always heard reindeer described, too – bulls, cows and calves.
Totally random but did people see this? These guys decided to protest gay marriage by walking around shirtless with slogans written on their bare chests, because apparently FEMEN was an inspiration. Can we get them to make friends with the MRAs? I feel that a conversation between these two groups would provide much amusement for everyone else.
http://m.thelocal.com/20130403/hommen-gay-marriage-femen
Oh, no, they didn’t. Did they?
When I was a kid, for some reason, I thought they were singing “You can comb your own hair” instead of “You can go your own way”. Which is probably a more practical anthem for a certain segment of the MGTOW population.
Sea monkeys! I’d totally forgotten about those. The ad made it look like you could teach them to play baseball and gin rummy. I think they do respond to light. In theory, you could train them to follow a flashlight and…I dunno, have a synchronized swimming team?