Noted pussyconomist Roosh Valizadeh offers these sobering thoughts on the rising costs — and decreasing quality — of vagina:
The quality of women—both their appearance and their attitude—is sliding to the bottom while the work we have to expend to meet these more inferior females is increasing. This phenomenon of pussy inflation is starting to force men out of the market, for what “average” man can find the time, ability, and motivation to seduce a merely cute woman who may only want to fuck him a couple times before becoming distracted by the next shiny object that gets placed in her path? If this inflations proceeds, the only men who will get laid consistently are ones who approach it like a job, blocking out a minimum of two hours a day to the task.
If anything Roosh is underestimating the dangers here. During Germany’s hyperpussyflation in the early 1920s, men had to devote as many as 3700 hours a day in order to score with merely cute women. Indeed, it is rumored that some of these men were forced to wipe their own asses in order to make themselves more appealing to women.
The reality we face right now is this: the quality of men around the world is increasing to compete with a decreasing quality of women. This is great if you’re a woman, because without lifting a finger you can get better than a couple years before. If you’re a man and didn’t step up your game recently, however, you will get lower results. If you don’t stay on top of the latest game scientific data or dating app, you will be out-competed. Or you’ll just get nothing. Inflation often helps those who have debt, but if you have no debt, if you lived life prudently and with virtue, inflation destroys your purchasing power. As much as men improve themselves, women are appreciating in relative value as they make all the wrong decisions with their lives. This is the world we live in.
To be honest, Roosh, I don’t think you and I live in the same world.
Wow, that song. Never saw that movie so I missed what is apparently Disney’s all time scariest villain.
Paradoxical: they’re different actors, but apparently on the very last line the dubbing switches to the English version cause the french guy couldn’t hit the high note.
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It’s worth a watch. Definitely Disney pushing an envelope when they needed to. It dealt with a LOT of kid-unfriendly stuff like Lust, Abuse of Power, and Religion. I’m surprised it was tolerated as much as it was by parents. (Try to release a “kid’s movie” like that NOW and I’m sure you’d have a full-blown boycott on your hands.)
Of course, I didn’t know how scary Frollo was until I learned about male entitlement and what men will do when confronted with a woman they can’t have and I watched it again. *shiver*
At least the movie ended happier than the book did.
Actually that’s a good question, what percentage of the kids who watched that movie when it came out understood what they were seeing, and how their parents framed it for them if they asked questions.
Yeah that book did not end well. But neither did Sleeping Beauty, The Little Mermaid or (I think) Snow White. I guess that’s where the term “Disneyfied” originates from, meaning to make a child friendly version out of something that’s actually pretty grim.
In all seriousness, The Little Mermaid true ending hit me hardest when I found out (and I was still a kid). So sad.
Some post on Tumblr the other day reminded me of the most depressing children’s story of all time – The Little Matchstick Girl. WTF, parents? Was having your kids bawl their eyes out at bedtime the goal?
OTOH, great way to start instilling a political consciousness in kids when they’re still young.
That is a good question, cassandra. I have a feeling that parents framed it as “well Frollo loves her so so much that he’s doing anything he can to marry her!”
Blech. If they were my kids I’d just be honest. “He doesn’t think that Esmerelda is a person like you or me, he thinks she’s a thing, and he really wants her like you’d really want a toy. But if he can’t have her he’d rather she died, because he can’t stand not getting what he wants.”
All fairy tales are messed up. They weren’t even originally meant for kids. The Grimm brothers sanitized them and then Disney sanitized them further.
Sunnysombrera, they were adapting The Hunchback of Notre Dame for kids. It was bound to be dark. At least in their version, though, Frollo was always evil. In the book, he’s driven to evil by lust for Esmeralda, which he doesn’t know how to handle because his holy vows require him to be celibate.
Also, I don’t think that Disney framed it as Frollo being so in love with her that he’d do anything that he could to marry her. He was the villain from the beginning and clearly didn’t view minorities (whether it’s the Romani people or the physical disabled people) as people. It’s pretty clear that we’re not supposed to pity him and are supposed to think that he sees Esmeralda as a thing and that’s he’s determined to either have her or kill her so that no one else can.
Oh man, I love hunchback if just for the music. Frollo is an amazingly dark Disney villain too, I was shocked he was even written. There’s this great shit-eating grin he gets at the end of the movie when he makes what he thinks is a great deal; “be mine or be burned.” His smile… you can tell he’s expecting Esmerelda to fold, and when he doesn’t he looks genuinely shocked he didn’t get what he wanted.
The french version is great! I’m gonna have to go on a Disney marathon some day where I watch them in the language of the land they’re supposed to take place in when possible…
@cassandra: the one that made me cry most as a child was The Happy Prince by Oscar Wilde.
The little mermaid, at least, was originally a fairytale with a tragic ending. Hunchback was originally a dark and violent book for adults where everyone dies at the end. When I first heard that Disney was making it into a family friendly animated story I honestly thought it was a joke. Husband believes that someday they’re gonna turn Macbeth into a cute musical, with the dagger that he sees before him in the famous scene as an anthropomorphized singing sidekick. Remember where you heard it first!
I could totally see a Disney Macbeth happening. After all, there’s witches!
Regarding Belle… Liked that story as a child. As an adult, it’s HELL of problematic that she falls in love with the man who holds her PRISONER. Like, first he scares her with his violent temper, but then her sweet nature makes him soften up (look, girls, you can totes change violent men by love!), and then she falls in live with him (hey, Stockholm syndrome!).
I would totally watch Macbeth the comedy musical, though I probably wouldn’t take a small child with me.
Beauty and the Beast really is is Stockholm Syndrome, The Musical. Teaching little girls that an abusive man will eventually come to love you if you’re just pretty and nice enough seems like something that we’d recognize as grooming behavior if that particular kind of misogyny wasn’t already deeply embedded in most societies.
Hunchback of Notre Dame and Lionking were my two favorite Disney movies. Beauty and the Beast always skeeved me out, because it was like:
“You meanie! No, pretty dinners and singing plates don’t make up for locking someone up and scaring their dad, and being a roar-y meanie!”
Yes, I was that kid, holding a grudge the entire movie.
I liked Belle, but did not like beast. It didn’t help that he was actually prettier as the beast than as the prince. Seriously. Little kid me would have been perfectly content if he never changed back.
I thought Belle was silly for thinking otherwise… Also, for not holding a grudge. Little kid me was peeved that my Disney nerd-soulmate couldn’t hold a decent grudge.
Little kid me totes did not get stockholme syndrome, at all.
Now I watch it and the classic stockholme is disturbing. Also, the implication of him and belle being roughly the same age meaning the sorceress lady must have cursed him at, like, eight. What kind of person curses an eight year old to be transmuted into a monster and essentially abandoned just for being a jerk?
Eight year olds screw up!
I mean, good parents try to teach them not to, but little kids screw up. It ‘s what they do! I mean, I wouldn’t have gotten away with chronic misbehavior but even I was a right little selfish brat on occasion! Oh, yeah, and where were his parents, anyway? Here, eight-year-old! Run this country. Oh, yeah, and talk to strangers! It’s fun! Especially if you’re rude to them! Go for it!
So, yeah. I’ve forgiven Belle for not holding a grudge now that I understand the dynamics of that sort of relationship, so at least age has given me back a bookworm, brunette bestie.
And, yes, I may be hiding on this thread. I need a little simplicity, and don’t want to deal with the other shenanigans now. Not without a long day, excess caffeine, and a word processor.
Come join us in the MGTOW thread, where we are discussing Sea Monkeys and popular snack foods. Hopefully that one won’t end in people shouting at each other.
Sea monkeys? I’m in!
I recently saw a new anime film by Isao Takahata, the “Tale of Princess Kaguya”, and it really mocks the courtship entitlement of medieval noblemen. It’s based on a Japanese fairytale, basically child-appropriate but with one subtle, realistic sexual assault that probably needs a trigger warning.
An old classic of Takahata, “Grave of the Fireflies”, dwells on realistic wartime horror and tragedy. It was apparently made for all audiences, but I wouldn’t recommend it for children, very sensitive people or war survivors. For others, yes.
Beauty and the Beast – French?
Little Mermaid – Danish?
Aladdin – Arabic or Persian?
Lion King – Growling
Pocahontas – East Algonquin
Hunchback of Notre Dame – French
Hercules – Greek
Mulan – Mandarin?
There is actually a live action Chinese movie about Mulan (in Mandarin, obviously). Worth seeing not only because the cutesy Disney spin and weird “how white American people see China” stuff is absent, but also because it stars Zhao Wei, who’s consistently awesome.
(Not even close to her best movie, though, so don’t judge her acting ability by this one.)
…okay? I knew it was a dark book and a dark ish film and I don’t think I said anything to indicate otherwise. Maybe this is meant to be aimed at someone else?
Yeah, Disney does make that pretty clear. I’m not sure if small kids would necessarily comprehend it, which is why I said parents might tell them the “he’s in love” crap up above. I dunno.
Turns out the movie itself is on YouTube too. Convenient!
My parents didn’t try to spin it as a “He’s in love”.
Mostly because I didn’t really ask questions the first few times I watched it. Frollo was just legit scary.
When I finally did start questioning, they went with the angle of:
“He’s a bad man, but it’s sometimes really easy for people to convince themselves they aren’t being bad, by blaming someone or something else instead of asking for help dealing with their bad thoughts or actions.”
They had to go through a bunch of examples before I actually got it, though.
I don’t remember what all of them were, but one of them was definitely a cookie. Because I remember thinking that blaming cookies for making you want cookies almost made sense, but didn’t make any sense at all… Partially because a cookie really can’t make you do anything, but mostly because Esmerelda wasn’t a cookie. She was a person. People are not cookies. I’d thought that was pretty obvious.
I then spent a great deal of time thinking Frollo was doubly stupid: blaming other people for his own problems and because he thought people were cookies.
Is it bad that the more I tell you about my kid-let thought processes, the more I think little kid me must have been a pain? I think I get why my dad was grey before I turned ten…