Noted pussyconomist Roosh Valizadeh offers these sobering thoughts on the rising costs — and decreasing quality — of vagina:
The quality of women—both their appearance and their attitude—is sliding to the bottom while the work we have to expend to meet these more inferior females is increasing. This phenomenon of pussy inflation is starting to force men out of the market, for what “average” man can find the time, ability, and motivation to seduce a merely cute woman who may only want to fuck him a couple times before becoming distracted by the next shiny object that gets placed in her path? If this inflations proceeds, the only men who will get laid consistently are ones who approach it like a job, blocking out a minimum of two hours a day to the task.
If anything Roosh is underestimating the dangers here. During Germany’s hyperpussyflation in the early 1920s, men had to devote as many as 3700 hours a day in order to score with merely cute women. Indeed, it is rumored that some of these men were forced to wipe their own asses in order to make themselves more appealing to women.
The reality we face right now is this: the quality of men around the world is increasing to compete with a decreasing quality of women. This is great if you’re a woman, because without lifting a finger you can get better than a couple years before. If you’re a man and didn’t step up your game recently, however, you will get lower results. If you don’t stay on top of the latest game scientific data or dating app, you will be out-competed. Or you’ll just get nothing. Inflation often helps those who have debt, but if you have no debt, if you lived life prudently and with virtue, inflation destroys your purchasing power. As much as men improve themselves, women are appreciating in relative value as they make all the wrong decisions with their lives. This is the world we live in.
To be honest, Roosh, I don’t think you and I live in the same world.
The numbers can exist and still not be significant. We aren’t that interested in your anecdotal musing about collage age women you know.
Egads, I think I technically flounced and then didn’t stick it. I’m going to slink away before that meanie Cassandry says something unproductive.
It’s like some sort of sex-specific virus that young men catch at a certain life stage, and some never grow out of, that leads to this bizarre fixation on attaching numbers to everything and compulsively sharing them with uninterested strangers as if doing so will unlock some sort of mystical solution. If every woman has 2.7 suitors then you will need 94.86 approaches in order to unlock each 2 digits of her phone number, which you will then call precisely 22 times before a blow job is dispensed.
Women tend to find this completely bemusing.
Well certaintly some people here are, considering a good chunk of mocks come from flat out stating I am lying and in fact sustained by that alone.
That is cool brooked, Cassandry can say something mean if she wants I personally do not care, beyond the fact that apparently you can’t just have a discussion here where views are exchanged.
As I said:
All I said is that saying some guys retreat from dating and from romantic interest in women in general because they find it too difficult. That is ALL I said in the beginning. And that the guy in the article could had said that without having to add women hate.
Now I sincerely ask, what is wrong with stating that?
“Some guys retreat from approaching women romantically becuase they find it too difficult, either their standards or because of repeated rejection. You can say this without having to add women hate”
Do you find something offenssive or woman hating in that statement? I am sincerely curious. Because this is all I said in the begining that is the core of my argument, that you can make a valid point and pollute it with myso rethoric.
How did people got offended by just stating this here? No idea, but I can’t see how this could be interpreted as woman hating in any way shape or form.
Arf!
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It’s like some sort of sex-specific virus that young men catch at a certain life stage, and some never grow out of, that leads to this bizarre fixation on attaching numbers to everything and compulsively sharing them with uninterested strangers as if doing so will unlock some sort of mystical solution. If every woman has 2.7 suitors then you will need 94.86 approaches in order to unlock each 2 digits of her phone number, which you will then call precisely 22 times before a blow job is dispensed.
Women tend to find this completely bemusing.
And thus you, completely missed the point and are depending on strawmans. The entire point of the numbers was simply to state a reason why some men find dating too difficult.
If you of course not skimmed through what I wrote and actually read (or if your memory is not shorter than that of a chicken) you will surely remember that I explcitily stated this was not universal.
The entire point again is this:
All I said is that saying some guys retreat from dating and from romantic interest in women in general because they find it too difficult. That is ALL I said in the beginning. And that the guy in the article could had said that without having to add women hate.
Now I sincerely ask, what is wrong with stating that?
“Some guys retreat from approaching women romantically becuase they find it too difficult, either their standards or because of repeated rejection. You can say this without having to add women hate”
Do you find something offenssive or woman hating in that statement? I am sincerely curious. Because this is all I said in the begining that is the core of my argument, that you can make a valid point and pollute it with myso rethoric.
Why do you find this offenssive? Or myso? I am curious.
@ Arf!
Ahoy Captain Mock! I am ready to get on board!
Seriously though, I have to go to sleep now.
I would at least had liked to gain some perspective from this, seem in general the premise is just “You are not allowed to disagree or you will be mocked. You have to have the same mindset as everyone else here and not even dare to ask questions or question something that was said.”
*blink*
You seam to think I have any interest in discussing anything with you.
Strange, I would think that my post (that btw, wasn’t addressed to you at all.) would clearly show I’m just expressing my amusement.
Amusement that have only grown after your “Like 90% of trolls”. We are getting closer to “Over 9000!”
But okay.
Let me let me do the same thing as you. That is pull a random, only tangentially related, anecdote;
Nope, see my dog had a habit of gnawing on my phone and some times he would even successful text people! Sure, the texts were just mismatch of symbols. But that still “proves” that you can post things without thinking!
And to support my “argument” I will also tell you that on the ‘net you can find any number of videos, gifts and stories of cats walking over keyboards and posting things that way!
So, coming off from those undeniable facts, I ask: how can I be sure that you are not just a very tedious potted plant?
What?
My “animals can post” point is just as connect to, can support it just as well, and offer as much proof as my “potted plant might be posting” conclusion as most of your “points / conclusions”!
Oh dear God this troll is boring. Skimming just one of his teal deer is making my eyes glaze over.
Oh, and Warper: I don’t think anyone gave you permission to shorten their nyms. Write them properly, you rude jerk.
If he was at least smart enough to quote properly, maybe my eyes wouldn’t glaze over quite so much. What I did get from the whole thing though was
him: men can find it hard to date
someone else: women find it hard to date in exactly the same way
him: that might be true but I don’t care, I want to talk about me
That last line sums up all trolls, really. It’s all about them and their sadboners or rageboners.
Bloody hell!
Quite apart from the dearth of “ideas”, how come these people all use the same tedious dictionary.
Sincere, polite, discussion, curious, views, exchange, perspective, evidence … blah blah blah. No matter what they’re saying, this “spirit of enquiry” bullshit is part of what makes them all so boring.
What I got was
Obvious statement
Wow, that was boring and obvious. Mockety mock mock.
Why do you disagree with my obvious statement? Are you offended by men deciding that dating is too hard and giving up?
I no curr, do whatever you want. Anyway, mockety mock mock.
Are you offended by men deciding that dating is too hard and giving up? (Repeat multiple times using exact same phrasing, because copypaste is exciting.)
Mockety mock mock, and then mock some more
Why does nobody want to have a debate with me about whether or not they’re offended by men deciding that dating is too hard and giving up?
(Blatant silliness commences)
Also, please read my Facebook post!
No. Mockety mock mock.
@brooked: maybe he’s upset the collage women won’t date him because he finds their excuses to be paper-thin.
pallygirl, that was EVIL. ::groanlaugh::
Warper – perhaps this is the wrong forum to discuss how hard men have it in dating.
Dating sucks for both men and women. Stats on how much attention attractive women get also aren’t a great measure of how easy it is for women. Added to that, hundreds of men approaching with dick pics and smutty chat isn’t necessarily a delightful internet dating experience for the recipient – perhaps that’s how men would like to be approached but that doesn’t mean women enjoy it or consider it a special privilege.
Unwanted attention is just that – unwanted. I know for guys the idea of having loads of women getting in touch and wanting to shag them might seem appealing, but that’s firstly not the case for all women (e.g those not deemed attractive by most men) and secondly if a woman is being approached constantly it’s actually pretty grim sometimes. Yes, men find the rejection hard and might bow out, but women do too – just in the context of relationships if the gender split was equal then every man not in a relationship is matched by a woman in the same position. A single woman may get more attention than a man but if it’s not guys she wants to date (or if the guy is after no-strings) then short of forcing herself to have sex with someone she doesn’t want to, the net result is the same – no relationship. Apparent options are not real options if you don’t want the guy. A single guy could equally have the option to have a fulfilling love life with a donkey (presumably legal somewhere?) so he has options too! Just because hot women are hit on by men doesn’t mean dating is a breeze for all women or that they want to engage in a debate about how much men suffer.
I can’t speak for the other posters and nothing you’ve said particularly vexes me personally but I think part of the response is because no one is obligated to (or wants to) talk about the tragedy of men not getting any/enough access to women as it is a mocking forum, so mostly people like to mock.
And yet average to below-average guys date and get married all the time. So clearly it isn’t only looks and social skills that matter.
Because we hear this same refrain over and over and OVER again from “nice guys”, for whom less than perfect women don’t exist.
See, we’re allowed to generalize based on our personal experiences too.
Do you won’t even consider less than a 10? Or why is it then that you project that on me?
I’ve dated a wide range across the physical attractiveness spectrum. It’s never been the primary consideration for me. But if a guy is obsessively hung up on numerical ratings, I know to stay far away from him, because that trait usually goes along with being selfish and immature.
Read Roosh’s piece again. You missed the central point of it. He’s not complaining about rejection and dating being hard. He’s complaining specifically about “pussy inflation”, the phenomenon of women getting attention who really don’t deserve it because they’re not “worth” that much.
And his qualifications for determining who “deserves” attention are…?
It seems to me you’re wondering the same thing – why do all these average women get attention, but not average men?
First of all, as Drunklurker said, a lot of the “attention” women get is garbage attention. It’s unwanted dick pics, it’s catcalls, it’s random creepers trying out boundary violations in hopes of finding an easy target, it’s slurs and namecalling and even violence if the woman doesn’t react, or reacts in the wrong way. It’s tedious and tiresome and annoying and sometimes scary. Is that the kind of attention you really want?
Second of all, there’s this thing called confirmation bias. When you believe something to be true, you’ll start seeing it everywhere, and ignoring the cases that don’t fit your preconceived notions. It cannot literally be true that every woman in Mexico City has three suitors. The math doesn’t add up.
Third of all, if you’re not having luck with the ladies, you have four options:
1. Keep doing the same thing over and over and hoping for a different outcome.
2. Expand your horizons. Move on to other women in a different setting, or who aren’t the type you normally approach, in hopes that they’ll be more receptive to you as you are (this is what guys fixated on 10s fail to do)
3. Continue doing the same thing, but figure out what isn’t working about your approach and work to improve it. It isn’t all about looks, but confidence and self-presentation does matter. So does being an interesting person (that is, having work, hobbies, and goals beyond getting laid). Instead of throwing yourself randomly at women, sit down and decide what makes you attractive, what you’re attracted to in women, and see if those two things match up. If you’re introverted and like books, but pursuing party babes, that’s probably not going to work. (That’s just an example, before you jump all over me for “projecting”).
4. Decide women are horrible and retreat from the dating scene forever.
I’m glad you at least recognize that #4 is the worst of these options.
And now, I need to go eat breakfast. We shall resume in an hour.
I tried reading one of the troll’s posts to my cat, and he farted, scratched his ear, yawned and fell asleep.
Says it all, really.
These guys think women are so lucky because they get so many unsolicited dick pics and none of the women they send unsolicited dick pics to ever send back any beaver shots. Even when they tell her she’s a worthless slut, they don’t even get a grainy Snap Chat of a tit. Even when they single out the young ones who don’t seem to have the best self esteem to focus their game on, they just get called street harassers and creeps. No one appreciates how owed sex they are. Those men’s lives are clearly very hard. Women need to do something about that right away.
Don’t worry bros. We’ll get top women on that.
Top women.
“I’m horrible and women won’t fuck me!” -Every PUA
The misogyny is that he has no intention of changing the “horrible” part. He just wants women to fuck him anyway. Warper, the complaint you and Roosh have in common seems to be that women should be lonelier and more mistreated so that they will lower their standards enough to fuck you. They should feel worth whatever you think they are worth and that’s nothing at all unless you happen to want to use them for sex.Their feelings don’t even exist in your equation except as something to be manipulated for your gain.
That is disgusting.
Dear god, I missed the boring troll/sea lion/duder.
Hey guys, come on, you read his posts, **wink** he just came into this feminist space to learn stuff about women. You know, so he can pretend to care about her as a person while just trying to get laid. He’s obviously very deep, you guys. And he seems to like math a whole lot. And while he’s repetitive as fuck, he seems to be passionate about this whole “men find dating difficult” stance. Gosh, why can’t we all just agree with him and kiss his ass?
–sarcasm off–
Also, I don’t think he’s getting the reaction he wants every time he posts, “Dating’s really really hard!”
By all means, if you’re not good at it, maybe you shouldn’t partake. Replace it with a hobby, maybe learn to make homemade pasta.
And no, we don’t feel like becoming your life coach and grooming you to do better with the ladies. When I was a teen I dated a couple your types (Whaaaa! I’m just socially awkward. Whaaaa, I’m not insensitive — I just don’t know any better.Whaaaa, you should like me the way I am, even when I’m a jerkoff. **Sniff** Suck my cock? No? Whaaaaa!)
It’s positively exhausting. Biggest energy vampires ever.