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If a #GamerGate-r plagiarises the John Birch Society on your blog and no one notices, does it make a sound?

Dwight D. Eisenhower: A Gawker Media shill?
Dwight D. Eisenhower: A Gawker Media shill?

Reaxxion, the world’s crappiest right wing woman-hating excuse for a video game site, has now officially responded to my post revealing that a GamerGate manifesto they recently published was literally a repurposed John Birch Society newspaper ad from the mid-1960s, with words like “communist” removed and replaced with their GamerGate equivalents.

Whether the, er, “author” of the post was trolling, or just the world’s least subtle plagiarist, it was a giant embarrassment for Roosh and Reaxxion. And so, in the course of a nearly 1000-word post, Reaxxion “ethics officer” announces that they’ve shitcanned the author – and congratulates the site for its heroic bravery for throwing out a writer who copied his entire post from an old John Birch Society newspaper ad from the mid-1960s, with words like “communist” removed and replaced with their GamerGate equivalents.

That’s all well and good, because journalists aren’t supposed to copy pretty much their entire posts from a John Birch Society newspaper ad from the mid-1960s, with words like “communist” removed and replaced with their GamerGate equivalents. If you’re an editor and catch a writer doing this, you’re supposed to send that writer packing. (Remember Stephen Glass?)

But Roberts ignores what is really the most interesting and revealing thing about the whole incident, which is that a writer copied his entire post from an old John Birch Society newspaper ad from the mid-1960s, with words like “communist” removed and replaced with their GamerGate equivalents – AND NO ONE NOTICED UNTIL I POINTED IT OUT.

And why is that? Because the hysterical anti-communist rhetoric of the original ad sounds pretty much identical to the ridiculously over-the-top rhetoric that’s characterized GamerGate from the start. And it’s rooted in the same sort of reactionary politics.

Which is itself even more embarrassing than the plagiarism itself.

The John Birch Society, if you don’t already know, isn’t just a right-wing group. It’s a group so far to the right that even the National Review has denounced it. As a Southern Poverty Law Center Intelligence Report notes that for years those on the left and on the right basically saw the Birchers as “the political equivalent of an addled uncle sent down to the basement rec room to drink, rant and hopefully pass out” before he had a chance to thoroughly embarrass the whole family by saying something truly dreadful.

I found the Bircher’s newspaper ad in a newspaper from 1966. At that time, the Birchers were fierce opponents of the civil rights movement in general and Martin Luther King Jr. in particular, labeling him a tool of the communists. As the SPLC report notes, Birchers feared that “the African-American freedom movement was being manipulated from Moscow with the goal of creating a “Soviet Negro Republic” in the Southern United States.”

Of course, the Birchers saw communists hiding behind every tree and under every bed. Indeed, the group’s founder, Robert Welch, was convinced that even President Dwight Eisenhower was a treasonous Communist puppet, and that LBJ was plotting to turn the United States over to the Communists even as he sent troops to fight against the Viet Cong.

So congratulations, GamerGaters, you’re now as officially ridiculous as the John Birch Society.

It might be a good idea to reflect a little on your life choices.

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Unimaginative
9 years ago

We can’t keep stupid people from getting pregnant, and the friendlier solution to paying for the abortion of their likely-to-be-stupid posterity is definitely to make the people less stupid.

FFS, abortion is not about eugenics! We’re not trying to breed stupidity out of the human genome. We’re trying to allow fully-actualized, living, breathing people decide what physical, emotional, and financial risks they’re willing to assume.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
9 years ago

Fuck, but I hate these solipsistic forced-birthers who try to resolve what should be their own personal existential crises by attempting to dictate what us uterus-havers should do with our uteruses. They’re always so fucking smug about how different they are from the garden variety forced-birther even while they trot out all the same talking points. But noooooo, mommy almost aborted them, which makes them special.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

gillyrosebee sez:

Most “pro-life” people only care about one potential life, and only care about forcing that life to birth regardless of the consequences for the woman carrying it and over and against any objections she may have.

They also don’t seem to care that the “potential person” they’re standing up for might turn out to wish it had never been born.

Right Wingnut
Right Wingnut
9 years ago

@gillyrosebee
> The bulk of the abortions that happen after that point do so because some fetal anomaly so threatens the viability of the fetus that it might not live to be born or much after, or threatens the life or health of the mother who might otherwise not survive the birth either.

Source?

@isidore13
> Prove that you’re using us as wank material (why mention that it was in an adult store?)?

‘cuz that’s where I get toys, lol. I’m not exactly straight or innocent. #NotAllProLifers? But I do prefer toys to unwanted pregnancies so… also #NotAllProLifers.

@gilshalos
Yes, I proved a lot, lol. Mostly that I don’t think like the apparent anti-abortion people that are talked about so much in this thread.

It’s a bummer I agree on all of you on so much, and disagree about one thing, and yet have been demoted from “awesome feminist” to “forced-birth violent fapping misogynist asshole”. We have different sources of information, different points of view, I didn’t go full-180 after I was raised. Hopefully that doesn’t make me Satan, because I don’t think of you guys that way.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Right wingnut,

Honest question. If you were in a burning building with one infant and a freezer of 100 frozen embryos and you couldn’t carry them both, which do you save? The infant who is a living breathing sentient being or the embryos? If you truly believe that an embryo and a baby are the same, you should rescue the embryos because by the numbers, saving 100 babies is better than saving one. But in practice, would you really leave an infant to die at the expense of some embryos who won’t feel any pain and don’t even know that they’re alive?

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
9 years ago

Dood, if you fail to grasp basic biology you are hopeless in this conversation. Google is your friend. Use it. I don’t know if you are ignorant or a liar but in either case, not our problem. Your problem.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

Talked the other day at an adult store to a woman who was there as a second job. … She said quite frankly that she didn’t pity the women “who didn’t keep their legs shut.”

You don’t pity women “Who don’t keep their legs shut” (don’t bother with the bullcrap, even if the woman exists, you wouldn’t have added it if you didn’t agree), and you were at a porno store? Are you sure you’re a pro-lifer and not a garden-variety boner troll?

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

Dude, you proved that you think *exactly* like 95% of anti-abortion people. You’re not fooling a single person here. Why did you need to tell us it was in an adult store? What did that add to the story? Why tell us that story at all? I’m seriously creeped out.

Right Wingnut
Right Wingnut
9 years ago

>FFS, abortion is not about eugenics! We’re not trying to breed stupidity out of the human genome. We’re trying to allow fully-actualized, living, breathing people decide what physical, emotional, and financial risks they’re willing to assume.

Some people aren’t fully self-actualized. I feel like I’m being accused of that now, actually. Maybe I’m not. Hopefully that doesn’t mean you want to rise up in one accord and lynch me, like back in the days some people used pseudosciences to say some races had lesser-developed brains.

But seriously, I don’t wanna assume _that_ because I presume there’s a much better reason for believing what you believe. You care about the mother. That’s awesome. I can’t possibly condone any ignoring of the mothers done by other pro-lifers, even if it’s every other pro-lifer except me and my adopted/biological families. And that goes for all the things that you associate with my stereotypical friends, acquaintances, and influences. If they are wrong, they are wrong.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

That was supposed to say “Hypocrisy ahoy” in there somewhere. Not sure how I lost an entire sentence.

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

You really have yet to explain why the fetus/blastocyst’s rights trump the mother’s.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

You think exactly like the rest of them. The bottom line is, you don’t think women should have bodily autonomy and you don’t think we are intelligent enough to make our own decisions about our own bodies. That makes you a misogynist whether you want to hear it or not. You don’t know jack shit about feminism if you think an anecdote about some woman agreeing with you is going to sway anyone.

Can’t you Google your own statistics about late term abortions? They are readily available and you’ve already found your way to the Guttmacher Institute before. If you don’t know the basic facts about who gets abortions and why, how can we expect to take your opinion seriously? I guess you like both forcing us to give birth and forcing us to do your homework.

Also, I don’t recall anybody ever calling you an awesome feminist. Who are you even quoting?

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
9 years ago

Source?

Um, that Gutmacher link YOU posted above? Go back and take a look at that page again.

Although I *was* wrongish. The statistic is actually 89% of abortions happening in the first 12 weeks, though I’m sure I’ve seen more recent statistics putting it closer to 92%.

Right Wingnut
Right Wingnut
9 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger: What kind of building would have that? In what circumstances could I not rescue both? Isn’t this like one of those tests to determine who’s a psychopath?
http://bigthink.com/big-think-tv/are-you-a-psychopath-take-the-test

@thebewilderness: eh.
@M. the Social Justice Ranger: See last post. To be clear, I’d never say something like that to someone else, about someone else. But I kinda had to counteract the “YOU ARE A DUDE SO YOU CANNOT COMMENT” factor, a la Shaun. Okay, he really said “Dude, you are being asked to drop it because it will never be your body affected (you will never be pregnant)”.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
9 years ago

Can’t you Google your own statistics about late term abortions? They are readily available and you’ve already found your way to the Guttmacher Institute before.

I love that I referred to the VERY SAME PAGE HE LINKED AS SUPPORT FOR HIS OWN POSITION but he somehow needs me to hold his hand and show him where it came from.

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

Right Wingnut, you posted it because you agree with it. Even if you don’t agree with that phrasing, you agree with the idea behind it, and you are pretending that’s not true because you know it’s indefensible.

Right Wingnut
Right Wingnut
9 years ago

@isidore13 When is it okay for the rights of the fetus (to exist) to trump to the rights of a mother (to end a unique human life)? When the mother’s life is actually at harm.

@gillyrosebee: I asked for the source that said most abortions are for saving the mother’s life. Here is the relevant portion from that link:

“Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner”

So the other ~25% might be doing it for reasons other than convenience…?

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Oh hell no. You, a man (member of the privileged group) are trying to impose your will on women (non privileged group) are actually comparing us to white people (privileged group) lynching black people (non privileged group) because we are pushing back against you trying to foist your opinions on us?

Fuck you. Don’t you dare compare yourself to lynching victims. That’s really fucking offensive.

You just keep digging the hole deeper and proving that enlightened anti choicers dont exist.

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
9 years ago

This troll is as boring as he is obvious. Can someone who mostly lurks suggest he be banned sooner rather than later?

isidore13
isidore13
9 years ago

You know, that’s not actually an answer to the question. Posing a different question and then answering that is classic gaslighting. Answer the actual question. Why do the rights of a fetus/blastocyst trump the rights of a woman?

Right Wingnut
Right Wingnut
9 years ago

@weirdwood: First paragraph’s false, after “you, a man (member of the privileged group)”. Second paragraph’s based on first. Third paragraph’s based on the first two.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

The building is irrelevant. It’s a thought exercise. You’re just avoiding the question because you know that you’d pick the infant to save and that destroys your scientifically and legally unfounded theory that an embryo is a person.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
9 years ago

Some people aren’t fully self-actualized.

Like people who are okay with abortion, right? So wanting an abortion means you can’t be allowed to have one, because if you were really fully self-actualized, you wouldn’t want one, right? That bit of tortured pseudo-logic is known as a tautology, skippy.

Right Wingnut
Right Wingnut
9 years ago

@isidore13: They’re both human so they’re both equal in my eyes.

Your question is a reverse of mine, which was when I asked when it’s okay to end the life of a person (age? size? mental development? location?). I asked first. So by The Rules Of The Internet I’d love an answer.

😉 😀 🙂

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Know you aren’t a man? Because earlier you said you were.

Anyone else starting to get a whiff of sock?

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

Thought exercises don’t work on people that can’t think.

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