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Vox Day: "Feminism is a Satanic, anti-Christian, anti-reason, anti-science ideology that destroys literally everything it touches and everyone who embraces it."

Man protecting himself from the evils of feminism
Man protecting himself from the evils of feminism

Oh dear. Fantasy author and garbage person Vox Day is having one of those (vox) days, and has decided to take it out on, you guessed it, feminism, pounding out an overwrought little rant on his Alpha Game blog.

Never give feminists an inch. Don’t agree with them, don’t tolerate them, show them no mercy whatsoever. Feminism is a Satanic, anti-Christian, anti-reason, anti-science ideology that destroys literally everything it touches and everyone who embraces it.

Wow. He’s so mad he’s practically plagiarizing Pat Robertson’s famous quote about feminism being “a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” I’m not sure how Vox managed to forget the lesbian witchcraft angle.

Reject it and its adherents the way you would reject someone offering you plutonium on their bare hands; to accept it is to begin to die a slow and painful death.

Might I offer you some notes, Vox? This bit seems a little understated. I mean, the plutonium thing is pretty good, but a person handing you plutonium isn’t anywhere near as scary as having, say, a bear do it. Or a shark. Or a bear-shark. Or a bear-sharknado.

The problem isn’t merely that feminists are ugly and hateful, or that their ideology is incoherent and deluded, but that by mere toleration of them, through mere intellectual contact with it, you are permitting your life to be infected and degraded.

Clearly Vox, a dude who clings to memories of his D-list celebrity as a former member of an angsty dance band two decades ago, and who devotes much of his life to pounding out hateful and unintentionally self-parodic rants on the internet, offers us the very model of a healthy and happy life well-lived.

Reject all of it. Reject their appeals to equality. Reject their pretense to intellectual standing. And most of all, personally reject all of those who subscribe to it in any way, shape, or form. Any man who calls himself a feminist is ideologically transgender and mentally unstable.

Ideologically transgender? Wow. He’s come up with an even more obnoxious way to call someone a “mangina.”

Vox, you’re so cute when you’re angry!

And by cute I mean a you’re a pathetic, hateful, disgusting excuse for a human being.

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contrapangloss
9 years ago

I strongly dislike antivaxxers too.

All the agreement. All the agreement. Little kids getting completely preventable diseases is completely awful.

Plus, there’s a certain level of callous disregard for people who really are too immune compromised due to disease or genetics for vaccination with the antivaxxer crowd. Just because your kid is healthy enough to survive pertussis or measles or mumps or diphtheria doesn’t mean that the poor kid they’re going to pass it to is!

I mean, not all vaccines are perfect. I know. I got chickenpox at eight, even though I got the vaccine as a tyke. Sometimes they fail. It happens. Still, the vast majority of time, they work perfectly.

Sorry, preaching to the choir, but measles is on the rise again, darn it! We had that one almost licked, and they’re ruining it! Seriously, the amount of cases near tripled in 2014!

Grargh!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

If people want to be anti-vaxx then they need to pull their kids out of school and go live on a commune somewhere far enough away not to infect the rest of the population. Living in a society has both costs and benefits, and if you’re selfish enough to decide that what you perceive as the costs should be paid by someone, then go should just ahead and opt out completely. It’s not fair to put other people’s kids at risk because you’re a selfish asshole.

Falconer
9 years ago

There’s also an ableism angle to anti-vaxxers. They’d rather their kid suffer all kinds of illnesses than — gasp! shock! — be autistic.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

I’ve always wondered why they think that a dead kid would be preferable to an autistic kid. Do they not understand that some of these viruses kill people?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

I once saw an anti-vaxxer make the argument that childhood diseases are completely healthy and necessary for a child’s long-term health, and children who die from them actually wanted to die.

No, really. That was her reasoning.

twincats
twincats
9 years ago

Wow! finally caught up.

If people want to be anti-vaxx then they need to pull their kids out of school and go live on a commune somewhere far enough away not to infect the rest of the population. Living in a society has both costs and benefits, and if you’re selfish enough to decide that what you perceive as the costs should be paid by someone, then go should just ahead and opt out completely. It’s not fair to put other people’s kids at risk because you’re a selfish asshole.

My hubby’s ex is one of these selfish assholes. This is one of the (many) reasons why we’re trying to get custody away from her. If/when we do, Kid is going immediately to the Dr. for all of the immunizations Ex refused to get for zir. Kid is healthy as a horse, fortunately, more due to luck than the homeopathic “immunizations” she believes in.

gilshalos
9 years ago

I had chicken pox as a kid.Just because I easily survived it does not make it pleasant! I had German measles too (which actually was kinda pleasant since all I had was a moving rash, no pain) I still had the rubella vaxination!

gilshalos
9 years ago

I totally misspelled vaccination, didn’t I ?

contrapangloss
9 years ago

Yes, yes you did. But we forgive you.

Bina
9 years ago

I once saw an anti-vaxxer make the argument that childhood diseases are completely healthy and necessary for a child’s long-term health, and children who die from them actually wanted to die.

No, really. That was her reasoning.

Well, if that’s true, then if her kid dies of the measles (as is entirely possible; even healthy young adults sometimes died that way), then she should not even bother to mourn or throw a funeral.

After all, the kid wanted to go. (And with a kook like that for a mother, who could blame them?)

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

anti-vaxxers suck. ::insert serious nurse glare::

That is all.

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

Could I get away with saying that anti-vaxxers are literally murderers, or would that be going too far as per the new rules? ^^;

gilshalos
9 years ago

::bows down before contragloss::

gilshalos
9 years ago

Testing, testing 1, 2, 3…? I can’t seem to post on other us…posts.

Bina
9 years ago

Could I get away with saying that anti-vaxxers are literally murderers, or would that be going too far as per the new rules? ^^;

Wellllll…murder, by definition, requires malice aforethought. I’d say that since these people aren’t actually thinking, the deaths they cause are involuntary homicides.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

The old stand-by admitting diagnosis TSTL would also fit. (I read House of God as a cautionary tale)

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

Another thing about antivaxxers, they’ve had the benefit of growing up behind a safe wall of modern medicine. They’ve never seen firsthand the devastating effects of polio, measles, rubella or meningitis. I’d like to introduce them to my 19-year old cousin, who lost both his legs (and nearly his life) to meningitis just over a year ago in the UCSB outbreak.

A few people opt out of vaccines for legitimate religious reasons, because some vaccines are derived from unclean animals, but the majority of them seem to be misinformed conspiracy theorists who distrust the government and/or don’t want to put Junior through the discomfort of a needle stick and/or think it confers a weaker, more “unnatural” immunity.

The worst thing I’ve heard about is “inoculation parties” and disease lollipops. These are lollipops licked by kids with, say, chicken pox , then sold to other parents so their kids can get chicken pox “naturally”. I can’t believe those are legal to sell, or that the germs would survive in the mail. More likely it would come with a raft of other diseases you don’t want your kid to have, like hepatitis A and mono.

(On a side note, speaking of “natural” immunity, shingles is supposedly much worse for people who had the actual chicken pox virus as kids, versus the vaccination.)

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

@ Buttercup – Shingles can be absolutely debilitating, and can last for months. I just don’t understand why anyone would take the risk of contracting a vaccinatable disease. (yes, I did just make up a word)

Also, as the parent of a child on the Autism Spectrum, STFU about how horrible ASD is.

pallygirl
pallygirl
9 years ago

@grumpyoldnurse: TSTL = too stupid to live?

And look, sheep have shenanigans: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12447635-the-great-sheep-shenanigans

Bina
9 years ago

Oh great, I had chickenpox at 11. Something else to look forward to when I’m a Little Old Lady… >grumblegrouse<

And yeah. Autism has NO links to vaccines whatsoever. I keep finding stories on yet another genetic link being proved, but not ONE link to a vaccine of any kind. Yet, ironically, somehow those stories just keep passing antivaxxers by…probably because they don't come from quackish sources like "Natural News" (note the quotes, there for a reason…)

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

@ pallygirl – correct!

@ Bina – I had chickenpox at 13, Mr.Grump had it at 30-something. I share your fear. Also, pretty sure that the ‘Autism vaccine’ link was thoroughly debunked, but people won’t let it go. Lots of folks are in the ‘don’t get your facts on my preconceived notions’ camp.

contrapangloss
9 years ago

Bina, the whole “vaccines cause autism” bunk came from one scientific article that was published and then almost immediately rejected, retracted, and considered bunk because the methodology was horrid, the conclusions invalid, the doc behind it even stooped so low as to alter the medical histories of the subjects involved in order to boost his hypothesis (probably because he was being paid by a law firm planning to sue vaccine makers, so no conflict of interest there, at all) and it was all around bogus.

He got his Medical licence pulled after all of this came out.

He’s never been able to duplicate the results, when watched, and nor has anyone else.

The journal that published it issued numerous statements and apologies saying it was bunk.

Yet, people cling to that study with ridiculous fervor, and it’s incredibly galling.

::GRUMBLE::

Oh, yeah, and deadly.

::RAWRS OFF INTO THE MIDDAY SUN::

Robert
Robert
9 years ago

Hey, everyone. Maybe it was the discussion earlier, but I had a good long lucid dream this morning. At one point, I was on a balcony of a hotel overlooking a beautiful lake. I dived off (dove off?) the balcony and down about forty feet into the water. Didn’t feel wet, and I could breathe underwater, but I was still swimming. Flying came later. Oh, flying through the air and landing in a tree – it’s like virtual reality in HD.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

Inoculation parties made sense before the chicken pox vaccination was invented because the older you are when you get it the higher the risk that the illness will be severe. I got it when I was 4 and it wasn’t that bad and I don’t have scars. However, it’s better to never get it at all now that there is a vaccine. I don’t understand why anyone would carry on with this tradition.