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Vox Day: "Feminism is a Satanic, anti-Christian, anti-reason, anti-science ideology that destroys literally everything it touches and everyone who embraces it."

Man protecting himself from the evils of feminism
Man protecting himself from the evils of feminism

Oh dear. Fantasy author and garbage person Vox Day is having one of those (vox) days, and has decided to take it out on, you guessed it, feminism, pounding out an overwrought little rant on his Alpha Game blog.

Never give feminists an inch. Don’t agree with them, don’t tolerate them, show them no mercy whatsoever. Feminism is a Satanic, anti-Christian, anti-reason, anti-science ideology that destroys literally everything it touches and everyone who embraces it.

Wow. He’s so mad he’s practically plagiarizing Pat Robertson’s famous quote about feminism being “a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” I’m not sure how Vox managed to forget the lesbian witchcraft angle.

Reject it and its adherents the way you would reject someone offering you plutonium on their bare hands; to accept it is to begin to die a slow and painful death.

Might I offer you some notes, Vox? This bit seems a little understated. I mean, the plutonium thing is pretty good, but a person handing you plutonium isn’t anywhere near as scary as having, say, a bear do it. Or a shark. Or a bear-shark. Or a bear-sharknado.

The problem isn’t merely that feminists are ugly and hateful, or that their ideology is incoherent and deluded, but that by mere toleration of them, through mere intellectual contact with it, you are permitting your life to be infected and degraded.

Clearly Vox, a dude who clings to memories of his D-list celebrity as a former member of an angsty dance band two decades ago, and who devotes much of his life to pounding out hateful and unintentionally self-parodic rants on the internet, offers us the very model of a healthy and happy life well-lived.

Reject all of it. Reject their appeals to equality. Reject their pretense to intellectual standing. And most of all, personally reject all of those who subscribe to it in any way, shape, or form. Any man who calls himself a feminist is ideologically transgender and mentally unstable.

Ideologically transgender? Wow. He’s come up with an even more obnoxious way to call someone a “mangina.”

Vox, you’re so cute when you’re angry!

And by cute I mean a you’re a pathetic, hateful, disgusting excuse for a human being.

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kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

He shouldn’t diss the sheeple about teeth.
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Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

Ahhhh! Nobody’s making any sweaters from that sheep!!

Really, I don’t care what Matthew does with his teeth, but it’s fascinating how he’s managed to twist his personal phobias (nudity, the dentist) into evidence that he is superior to the rest of the population. That’s some Olympic-level mental gymnastics right there.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

Hopefully his manky teeth superiority will keep him a safe distance from all us sheeple types.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
9 years ago

Oh, and for the real horror of upsetting sheeple, you can’t go past …

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNzcwMTA1MjEzMl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzE0MzQ0MQ@@._V1_SY317_CR0,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

lith
lith
9 years ago

Buttercup:

I don’t know how he can know his teeth are in perfect health. Gum disease and decay under the gumline aren’t necessarily visible to the untrained eye, and they start to accelerate with age. Even if you floss religiously, tartar still builds up over time. That stuff can only be removed by a trained professional with the right tools.

Yep, I hit the age where it becomes a problem fairly recently. Much more brushing, flossing and mouth-washing necessary every day now mostly in the hope it doesn’t get worse (and the secret hope it’ll get better).

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

The teeth thing could be true. I went more than 20 years without dental care and there was no harm in it. My secret brushing technique was not forgetting to do it. My entire life, I have preferred milk over any other beverage my entire life, which gave me pretty strong teeth, and I also started to drink green tea, straight, in quantity in my 30s.

I finally had to go to a dentist because I wanted my teeth straightened, and they wouldn’t agree to give me braces if I didn’t do the regular checkups. I had some tartar but nothing more than most people develop between cleanings.

My reason for what could be viewed as a stupid, stupid move was that I am terrified of dentists. I chose a dentist who would agree to give me sedation if I needed it, which I knew I would if I had to have any fillings (hooray I didn’t).

Unlike Matthew, I’m not going to claim this is generalizable to the universe, or that people without my phobia should stop going to the dentist, or that what I did was especially smart. However, he is not necessarily blowing smoke up his own ass with that one.

lith
lith
9 years ago

kittehserf:

It’s the whole, “You’re WRONG!” attitude. You have irrefutable proof that there is no deity? Really? Or is it just a belief? And why do you feel the need to tell everyone else they must also believe it? I fail to see how it’s any different – unprovable existence of something versus unprovable nonexistence of something.

Must. Stop. Incoming. Rant.
Grrrr. Fanatics.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

I’m kind of amused at how this thread turned into an open thread.

lith
lith
9 years ago

@PoM:

It has really, hasn’t it? Heh.

On an unrelated note, Ched Evans apologising for the backlash and disassociating himself from it and the people doing it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ched-evans-wholeheartedly-apologises-to-the-woman-concerned-in-rape-case-after-oldham-deal-collapses-9965308.html

and Oldham aren’t signing him seemingly due to pressure from sponsors and (sadly) threats to staff and their families.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

PoM – Yeah, it is true that some people can get away with less dental care than others. Mouth bacteria, saliva composition, diet, access to fluoride, and genetics all have a lot to do with oral health. Some people can brush a lot and still get cavities, others can be more cavalier about it. I wasn’t terribly diligent about getting regular cleanings during my twenties and early thirties, mainly due to lack of insurance, and my teeth got along fine – but now that I’m in my forties, I’m having to get regular cleanings and step up my tooth care regime. Physical wear and tear alone takes a toll, plus changing hormones affect how dry your mouth gets (and thus how long the acid-secreting bacteria hang around after meals).

Matthew seems to have the cause and effect backwards. It’s not that his teeth are healthy because he doesn’t go to the dentist. They’re healthy in spite of it.

He reminds me of my college boyfriend, who was a Christian Scientist. He claimed he never got sick or needed to go to the doctor because prayer took care of everything, so other people (such as our future hypothetical children) shouldn’t need doctors either. I was like “yeah, but you’re young and healthy – prayer has nothing to do with keeping the doctors away, you’ve just self-selected into a belief system that rewards pre-existing good health.” Needless to say, we broke up.

Pocket Nerd
Pocket Nerd
9 years ago

Thus Spake ZaraButtercup Q. Skullpants:

One lady diplomatically said he was “lucky” and he went off on her in his blog, calling her a sheeple and people who see dentists lazy and irresponsible because they’re relying on someone else to fix their messes for them. (The notion of preventive care isn’t on his radar, apparently.)

That’s another thing typical of techbros, in my experience: Many of them tend to ascribe any possible illness or dysfunction to “bad lifestyle choices”. They don’t understand that an ounce of prevention really is worth a pound of cure — and far cheaper to boot.

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

The thing that bothers me most is the arrogance.

I actually have no problem with people who, for whatever reason, do not seek medical or dental care or certain components thereof. If you’ve got a hang up about someone else having their hands in your mouth, or you honestly do (for yourself only) liken a pelvic exam to molestation, and you are an adult and you understand the risks that you are putting yourself at, fine, refuse anything. Do not, however, have the unabashed bloody arrogance to tell everyone else that they are weak little sheeple who need to wake up!

Also (and I know others have said it on this thread) stop bloody conflating your own bloody good luck and privilege with good bloody management! /endrant

Sorry, everyone, but thanks, too!

grumpyoldnurse
grumpyoldnurse
9 years ago

@ Pocket Nerd – I’ve also met this type, They neglect themselves for decades and then get mad when “medical science” can’t fix them. It’s called medical science, d00d, not medical magic!

Plaatsvervangende Schaamte

This isn’t the first time “Matthew” has joined us, is it? Wasn’t he skulking around about a month ago complaining about how the courts are keeping him from disciplining his son because they let him live with his mother or something?

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

He’ll change his mind about going to the dentist if he ever gets an abcess.

gilshalos
9 years ago

I’ve seen a report saying police say their were no threats to Oldham’s staff and fgamily. Thank goodness.

Skye
Skye
9 years ago

Buttercup Q. Skullpants, I sincerely hope your ex has either changed his views or does not have children. I hate when kids suffer needlessly because their parents have some goofy views regarding doctors and medicine

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
9 years ago

@Plaatsvervangende Schaamte

Wasn’t that one of the Allman guys?

twincats
twincats
9 years ago

…my awful bathroom dreams — invariably, when I look for a bathroom in my dreams, there will be something about it that makes it impossible to use: no doors, no locks on the doors, toilets too dirty or broken, or no toilet stalls at all, just a long row of outhouse seats completely exposed, and people everywhere looking at me like I’ve lost my mind. Of course, I always get that one right before I wake up needing a bathroom for real…

This is rather common for me, too, and they always vary; I never get the same scenario twice.

Another one that’s fairly common is the I’m-late-for-work-and-can’t-dial-the-phone-properly dream. My favorite dreams have always involved going into familiar buildings and finding all kinds of secrets rooms and passages.

Dreams are fascinating. Teal deers, not so much!

contrapangloss
9 years ago

@POM, Plaatsverrvangende Schaamte:

I thought it was one of the Allman’s, but it’s been a while and they all blend together. I remember a strong banhammer on whoever it was, because they got a bit scary and disgusting.

twincats
twincats
9 years ago

Sex is not simply a form of entertainment to make you feel good about yourself. It’s meant to create life. It’s disturbing that this isn’t obvious to more people.

And why exactly is sex not a form of entertainment? If sex doesn’t entertain you, don’t do it unless you want a baby. Easy peasy, right?

What gets me about some of these authoritarian prude types is: If humans are sooo speshul and totes different from animals, why is sex so sacrosanct? Why is it bad and awful for teh sooper speshul hyoomans to be creative with sex because all teh anumuls only do it for the babbies*? This seems to be silly argument. Not that this is what I think Matthew is saying (and I’m not going to read his bog to find out) but it is a set of arguments I’ve seen a lot.

And the spiritual freedom of pets? My cat is terrified of the outdoors and would probably be dead within a month of being “freed.” Matthew doesn’t seem to know that most domesticated species wouldn’t last long without humans. Maybe he feels they shouldn’t exist anymore anyway. What I’d like to know is whether he thinks everyone should be a vegan or that everyone should hunt for their meat**.

*Plus that’s not even true!
**Again, not going to read his bog.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
9 years ago

@Skye Last I heard, he was married and had a couple of kids. Hopefully the kids haven’t had any major medical issues (or maybe his wife persuaded him to allow doctors). The Church has gotten a lot of negative publicity in the past few years from children who’ve been denied care and died needlessly. Recently they’ve started to soften their stance and allow limited medical intervention in conjunction with prayer.

It wasn’t just the “no doctors” thing that was the dealbreaker, it was the whole belief system that illness is imaginary. A lump in your arm, for example, is regarded as the physical manifestation of fear or sin. It all sounds so medieval and blame-the-victim. When a patient is suffering, the last thing they need to be told is that their pain is illusory and caused by negative emotions.

I strongly dislike antivaxxers too. The childhood diseases the vaccines prevent are far, far worse than the supposed side effects of the vaccines. Then there’s the fact that they want the rest of us to bear all the risk and responsibility of getting protection, so that they can reap the benefits for their own kids, who are much too precious to subject to those nasty shots. Shots are for the sheeple. But antivaxxers are perfectly happy to mooch off of herd immunity.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

lith,
I completely agree with Dawkins that gods are merely fantastical creatures like mermaids and unicorns. There is a big difference between claiming things exist without evidence and claiming it doesn’t because there is no evidence of their existence, it’s an extraordinary claim and everything we know about the world points to the belief in those things evolving from animism and ancestor worship. I also think Dawkins is a douche. I don’t think that makes saying “There are no gods” arrogant. I don’t mock or complain about people’s supernatural beliefs here, even though religious people have been particularly nasty to me and to people close to me because their religion tells them we are wicked. Could you please do the same for my lack of faith in the supernatural? That’d be great. My atheism has been used as an excuse to attempt to stop me from adopting. Religion has been aggressively pushed on me and on my kids. I don’t care for it but I support people’s right to believe in it and I keep my opinions to myself unless it is appropriate to the discussion. Let’s just live and let live.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

I strongly dislike antivaxxers too.

Me too. Whooping cough is making a strong comeback and people are still dying in the tens of thousands from the flu every year. If this trend continues, we’re in big trouble. Antivax is gaining popularity here. It seems to go hand in hand with the spread of Libertarian politics, fundamentalism and a love for the stars and bars. It’s a nasty combination.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

It’s also normally accompanied by creationism and climate change denial.