How often has this happened to you? You’re reading a thoughtful blog post or comment from a Men’s Rights Activist and you find yourself thinking:
“Gosh! This post or comment on how women are a bunch of malevolent parasites/men are the real slaves if you think about it/women were never oppressed because they could just get maids to clean the house is so witty and wise. I only wish it were 50 times longer, and that I had to pay money to read it!”
Well, I’ve got good news for you: Now you can!
A Voice for Men, having already given the voiceless male gender a way to express itself online, has now launched A Publishing House for Men to give them a way to express themselves in book form!
Well, e-book form.
A Voice for Men’s new publishing house has just published its first book – well, e-book — a slim volume of thoughts on Men Going Their Own Way, written by Peter Wright of Gynocentrism.com with help from AVFM’s Paul Elam, using some material already published online!
Well, technically speaking, this is a relaunch. AVFM Press originally launched last October with the publication of this same book. But Elam decided to call a do-over. No, really.
On October 25th, you see, a bulletin on AVFM proclaimed that AVFM Press was publishing Go Your Own Way: Understanding MGTOW — an e-book it predicted would be but “the first of what will surely become a lengthy series of ebooks (and some hardcovers as well). … let’s get AVFM Press on the map as the iconic source for true red pill appetites.” (A source for appetites? I thought the source for appetites was an empty stomach?)
One day later, Elam announced that he was recalling the e-book.
What I have discovered … is that there were several procedural, legal, and formatting errors that should have been addressed before launching the book.
I made a whole bushel of lemons, folks, and the fault for that lies squarely on me.
But I do make some pretty good lemonade, which I am in the midst of doing as we speak.
I have pulled the book from Amazon Kindle for the time being, and I am removing purchase links from every place they now exist.
After the deficiencies with the product have been corrected, it will be re-launched at a level of quality that AVFM readers deserve, which is the very best possible. All the other issues will be corrected as well.
Please accept my apologies for the mistakes. This whole process of publishing is quite complicated, actually.
It is, Paul, it is.
Happily, Elam announced, the eager customers who’d hurried to buy a copy of the defective book on its first day of publication would be given a copy of the corrected book when it came out. All twelve of them.
That last bit isn’t a joke; according to Elam himself, there were literally twelve of them – less than half the number of those on AVFM’s masthead.
Elam also decided to call a do-over on AVFM Press itself – or at least its name — declaring that
AVFM Press is actually a working title for our publishing arm and will likely change very soon.
But now all the details have been sorted out, right? Well, mostly.
Yesterday’s big announcement on the launch – the real launch, this time – of AVFM’s new publishing house did not actually provide a name for the venture. At least not one that I could find. On Amazon, the publisher of the revised edition of Go Your Own Way is still listed as AVFM Press.
But never mind, because the book is getting rave reviews on Amazon!
For example, a woman named Suzy McCarley declares that the book “was worth the wait!”
Ok, so McCarley is an AVFM staffer who’s given 5-star reviews to everything she’s reviewed — from self–published books by manosphere blogger Aaron Clarey to Avalon Extra Moisturizing Fragrance Free Conditioner. But not all of the rave reviews are written by AVFM staffers under their own names. For example, a fellow calling himself xtime Past gushes:
There is great content for Men and Women of all ages. Most of red pill are apprehensive in reading this book since Paul Elam is a part of the MHRA arm of the manosphere. The read is great for MGTOW to better understand going their own way.
So I would like to congratulate AVFM’s Possibly Still Unnamed Publishing House for Men Who Don’t Write Good for getting off to such a strong start, at least if you ignore that first start that didn’t go so well.
During AVFM’s last donation drive, Elam declared that:
This year will see AVFM go into commercial ventures that will fund even more activism. I cannot go into any details at this point, but rest assured it is coming, and as with most everything else we have set out to do, we are going to pull it off. This track will ease the pressure on some of our larger donors who have always seen us through donation drives.
AVFM’s Possibly Still Unnamed Publishing House for Men Who Don’t Write Good is the first of these new money-making ventures. Because as everyone knows, a vanity publishing house that so seriously fucks up its first e-book launch that it has to do it over again two months later is pretty much guaranteed to be a massive cash-generating machine.
It kind of needs to be, as AVFM’s last donation drive (which just ended) didn’t do quite as well as Elam had hoped, at least according to this little thermometer graphic posted on AVFM.
I can only assume that authors will be rushing to sign up with AVFM’s Possibly Still Unnamed Publishing House for Men Who Don’t Write Good, so that AVFM’s Possibly Still Unnamed Publishing House for Men Who Don’t Write Good can put its name (which may be changed) on their ebooks – and take a share of the profits, if any, hopefully without introducing too many formatting errors in the process.
No, I can’t see how this could possibly go wrong.
Kudos, Paul!
The fact that he’s pissy at RadFemHub, which I don’t think even exists any more, is another indication that he’s been sealioning at bored feminists for a while.
He seems to have dived back down into the seas for a bit though. Whether he’ll pop his head up again I don’t know. Do sealions tend to flounce or do they try to have the last word?
‘After spreading his turds of wisdom the majestic sealion flops back down into the basement.’
I have a feeling he’ll be back. Even trolls have to sleep and eat.
dRifts is pretty good. In 1994, they changed the name of the “mage” class… resulting in fire spells dealing “fire dawizard” to their targets.
Oh Boardtroll, you’re behavior here does give us an indication that your coworkers’ reaction was not off base.
No, we don’t know you personally, BUT you have proven yourself to be an obtuse, boundary pusher here, so what else do you expect from us? Oh you are so right Boardtroll. Them bitches be crazy. You were just trying to be friendly. There, there. Have a cookie. Well, you came to wrong place if you expect us to be like that. Or did you think that your antidote was somehow a gotcha card for us? Maybe self awareness is a little too much for us to ask of you, huh?
I could go on with the other straw arguments you have presented but I won’t bother. You obviously didn’t come here in good faith.
One more thing-if we are the meanest of meany pants you have encountered, you sir have lived a charmed life.
Damnit! My formatting messed up. The “Oh you are so right, up to here is a cookie” was supposed to be surrounded by sarcasm-/sarcasm to make it obvious I was being sarcastic. Sorry everyone. I’m still learning obviously.
I don’t hate males!
90% of my friends are male. I have a lot harder time getting on with other women, to be frank.
(On a pause from Netflix after watching 42 and Blink)
I suspect this one will need to be Number Ninjaed if he comes back. He’s that level of boring.
Yes, we all hate men because we expect them to respect boundaries and to understand that they’re not entitled to our time and affections, and we want to ban sex (because it’s not like us wimmens/radFems enjoy consensual sex, amirite?) because we wimmens have to be mindful of Schrodinger’s Rapist *every time we encounter a man in our day-to-day lives*.
But, nope. We’re all hateful harpies who just want to make BoredTroll’s life so HARD because we expect him to act respectful towards women and understand that he’s not entitled to our time or positive attention. (it’s not like we can expect him to act respectful towards minorities, if his previous posts are anything to go by. What a racist bastard.)
Did anyone else find it weird that he said one of the comments he made to the co-worker was about her glasses? As someone who wears glasses in preference to contact lenses at the moment, I would find it really odd if a male co-worker, with whom I have little social contact, commented if I changed my glasses. Unless I changed to Elton John/Dame Edna Everidge glasses, I would be creeped out if someone I barely talked to felt they had the right to fucking comment on an item of clothing that most people don’t notice in anyu detail.
Heck, when I lived at home my mother was quite put out when I didn’t notice she had changed her glasses. When she asked me if I noticed anything different, I said “you had your hair done?”
With a female co-worker that I worked quite closely with, it took me a couple of hours to realise that the sense I had that she looked a little different one day is that she was wearing glasses (she normally wore contacts). When I swapped earlier last year to wearing contacts, after a couple of days I mentioned to a female colleague (that I work closely with) that I was finding the adjustment a bit slow, and she said she had been wondering what was different about me – and that was it, I wasn’t wearing glasses.
So yeah, I find that bit of the story to demonstrate a detailed interest in the work colleague far beyond what would be appropriate. And therefore creepy.
The people where I used to work noticed immediately when I changed glasses, the one time I changed from gold rims to gunmetal. We were also great friends (for the most part) who had lunch together every day, and the change was pretty significant (gold to gunmetal is a big switch).
The time I switched from gunmetal to dark blue? Only one person had anything to say about it.
I’ll also note that there are creepy and non-creepy ways to comment on an accessory that is as deeply personal as a pair of glasses. I’m now accepting bets that boringtroll doesn’t even grasp that these separate categories exist, let alone what kinds of statements might be in them.
pallygirl, PoM, yes to all of that!
It doesn’t seem that odd to me. I get compliments on my glasses fairly frequently.
Lea – it’s the context of boringcreeper having little contact with the woman, but choosing to make a personal comment like that. I wouldn’t be too pleased if some man I hardly knew made a comment like that; it would imply to me that he’d been looking at me a fair bit, and that alone would creep me out.
I don’t actually appreciate comments about my glasses from people who aren’t friends. The more in-contact with my body an accessory is, the more personal a comment about it is, and personal comments are not welcome from strangers and near-strangers.
I’m actually surprised to hear that people don’t always notice when y’all change glasses. Every time I’ve changed people have picked up on it at least as quickly as on a new haircut, even when I stayed within a basic style.
Thanks Anochronist (sonnysombera) for not being abusive.
“Nope, I really think you’re projecting. If I was to make a guess, I’d say you don’t like yourself very much, and make your judgements of other peoples’ reactions based on how you perceive yourself, i.e. negatively.
I’ve been there. I’m one of the people who interpreted laughter in my presence and weird glances in my general direction as people laughing at me, not at some unrelated event or joke in my vicinity. Then I grew up and learned that not everything is about me. Also, even when I was at my most bitter, I realised that my loneliness may not have been my fault originally, but it was still my problem that I had to deal with, it was nobody else’s responsibility to “fix” me. It seems you have swallowed an unhealthy amount of MRM conspiracy theories, and as a result, you externalize your bitterness.”
I was trying to argue that bitterness, resentment, entitlement – as manifest in the belief that others owe you their time – are human failings not just male socialized traits. That they exist in women is not to suggest women are evil and intent on causing me harm or anything else ‘MRA’. You can’t possibly know enough to know I’m reading too much into reactions.
“And, as I said, gender does not dictate who is an asshole. However, the problem feminism quite rightly points out is that men are socially conditioned to act like assholes. Acting like a jerk who doesn’t care about other people is considered a virtue in masculine behavior, “an alpha move”, so to speak. Contrast that with women being taught to be quiet, submissive, to always put other peoples’ needs above their own etc., and you may understand the statistical difference between violence against women by men and violence against men by women.”
This is a overly reductive view and demeaning viewpoint on gender. Men I know don’t fit this characterization or anything close to it. I am a librarian and so are my friends (not exactly a masculine occupation), but at 35 I’ve been in a few male circles.
“1) There can be a solution to Schrödinger’s Rapist: To eliminate rape culture by eliminating the harmful beliefs and attitudes society has about men, women, sex and expecially rape. To call out rape apologism, to point out sexism wherever it happens, to get rid of dangerous ideas such as “boys will be boys”, to teach boys and men not to rape and not to make excuses for other men who do, to make politicians and the authorities to actually take rape seriously as a crime, to stop slut shaming and other ways society polices women’s behavior in order to excuse rapists are just some of the steps we can take”
These oft referenced attitudes come across as common but not pervasive, and I don’t know what’s actually being referred to with Rape Culture any way – societal wide acceptance or attitudes within male culture? (I don’t accept the former, rape is considered horrific). And even if ‘rape culture’ disappeared tomorrow, that wouldn’t make 99.8% of men safe because individuals exercise moral agency, there will be those who willingly choose to ignore society’s rules and taboos.
“3) If you think the problem with rape is that it’s “an emotive rhetoric tactic”, then I think you’re a terrible human being with no empathy for rape victims.”
The problem was with Schrodinger’s Rapist as a reasoning for why women are or need to be extremely wary of male strangers, not about assessing the seriousness of actual rape as a crime/human rights violation. so you’re being disingenuous, and again attributing nasty attitudes to me.
I’ve brought this up in conversation with my older female family members (baby boomer gen and older), they said those kind of fears weren’t a big feature their young adult lives. Pretty sure they’re not placating my fragile male ego either.
“) Could it be that the “aggression” you’re seeing from women is only because you refuse to listen to the various polite, soft “noes” until they have to scream at you to fuck off, since such obnoxious behavior would frustrate and anger even a saint? Your commentary up to this point suggests that much”
Again you know that much? The fact that I’m male and don’t identify as male feminist/ally means I don’t care about human rights or aren’t aware of my own behaviour and how it might affect others? That’s terribly arrogant. The reactions I mentioned earlier are to do with not reciprocating friendly gestures, not boundaries.
“If you think false rape accusations are as huge a problem as rape, statistically and individually speaking, then you’ve reached asshole nirvana, and I’m done with you.”
I don’t think they are, they’re relatively rare This and the proceeding blog entry are to do with ‘MGTOW’s’ men who avoid women,in their personal or work lives, for the purpose of mocking them of course. In this context it’s not inappropriate to bring up arguments as faulty as they seem to you, as to why men might feel they should avoid women.
It’s certainly not the same as elbowing one’s way into a discussion about rape and making it all about men and false accusations.
holy tl;dr batman
Must be time for number ninja!
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@pallygirl and other nutbags
You people keep contriving up increasingly weak and ridiculous ways to suggest and
.. the glasses now… she had an eye disorder, which she spoke about in middle of the office openly, The glasses were prescribed shortly after. It’s not inappropriate, nor is it really that weird to notice something like that in an office of 5 people.
I received a compliment from a male stranger on my glasses once and wasn’t terribly creeped out. Then again, they had a fairly distinctive design on the arms. There’s the possibility that he had been scoping me out, but if so he kept the compliment very light, “hey, cool glasses!” and didn’t take my “thanks!” as an invitation for further conversation.
bored: a lot of the mockery about MGTOW, from what I’ve seen, is that they’re so damn vocal about how horrible and evil women are and never seem to actually go anywhere. If they want to build their own Mantopia off in the middle of the woods and live their Manly Men Men lives then that would be great! (Spoiler: this will never ever happen because MGTOW just want to complain about how women have ruined society and are oppressing men.)
This is less ridiculous than boringtroll.
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