Over on Roosh’s Return of Kings site, the lovely individual known as Redpiller1985 has totally figured out what has ruined video games, which sadly “have declined since their great rise in the 70′s-00′s.” He’s looking at you, ladies!
Ok, well, that’s not exactly a new sentiment to hear from a #GamerGater. But Redpiller1985 has managed to precisely identify just which kinds of ladies — sorry, “chicks” — are ruining gaming the most: the pretty ones who actually play video games. Or at least pretend to!
You go to any Youtube channel about gaming and it will have a useless pretty chick talking about her experiences with Pokemon as a child. These women are not actual gamers but women riding a fad. They’re called “Gamer Gurls” for the reason to mock the gurl phrase that feminists like to use. These semi-attractive chicks have learned that they can get the princess treatment by pretending to be a video game enthusiast.
Huh. You mean like this person or this person or this person? Or possibly this person?
But I digress. As it turns out, according to Redpiller1985, there is another kind of chick who is also ruining gaming: the ugly ducklings. Well, the ugly ducklings that grow up to be ugly chicks, that is.
Also another type of chick started to pop up. These women though don’t have the facade of being attractive. Instead they use videogames to up their social status. The land whales realized that if they could fake their enthusiasm for games, some video game beta would find them attractive as well. The betas fight over these chicks and since they’re all manginas of the highest degree. This is one of the reasons that betaness and even omeganess are the norms in video game culture.
I’ve prepared this helpful Venn Diagram:
Anyway, these chicks are why Call of Duty is more popular than the unnamed “quality products” that Redpiller1985 prefers are objectively better than Call of Duty, which is apparently (who knew!) bought mostly by “chicks.”
Girl gamers and their beta male hangers-on rather buy Call of Duty than support quality products. Don’t let women in to your sub-culture unless you want it permanently disfigured. Too bad they already did it to my favorite sub-culture.
Redpiller1985’s complaint about Call of Duty is just a teensy bit ironic, given that not long before he wrote his post, a contributor to Roosh’s terrible gaming site Reaxxion had declared Call of Duty “the best shooter series ever,” in part because it has flamethrowers. (No, really.)
Redpiller1985 also complains that chicks are destroying the fine art of video game journalism as well:
Women and beta males have made video game journalism an entry point for dilettantes with humanity majors. … Video game publications have turned into tabloids with female writers at the helm. Most people can’t name a female game journalist because they coast on their male colleagues who do the actual work.
Well, actually, most people can’t name a video game journalist because they don’t actually give a shit about video game journalism, which is barely journalism at all.
But it is a little ironic to see complain about someone else’s journalistic ability, given that he is writing for what many consider the worst blog on the internet. And that he is also the author of this, er, sentence:
The betas fight over these chicks and since they’re all manginas of the highest degree.
Since they’re all manginas of the highest degree WHAT?!
Only time will tell, because redpiller1985 never finishes that thought.
H/T — @thrillith via r/GamerGhazi. And then another H/T to @thrillith for also tweeting about that Reaxxion piece on Call of Duty.
GrumpyOldMan – I can’t remember in which thread we were talking about mauls/splitting axes, but srsly:
Fiskars X27 Super Splitting Axe, 36-Inch https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004M3BAQE/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_bhPOub13YY5N5
Dem Finnish know what they’re doing.
The only stuff it’s balked at so far has been knotty and seasoned for *squints* nearly 3 years.
And, of course, giant rounds – still sticking with a wedge and hammer for those.
@paradoxicalintent
Thank you to speak the voice of reason in the gaming community. I’ve been gaming for a very long time and this is exactly what I think gaming should be: people having fun and respecting each other for what they are and what they play, whatever the platform they play with is.
One does not simply dismiss Pokemon. Redpiller1985 has outed himself as Not A Real Gamer.
Thank you, proxieme! 🙂
@proxieme
excellent points.
Makes me think too of how stupid the console wars and pc vs mac are – the best thing for you, is the one that fits into your life the best. The stupid arguing fanboys do is just, well, stupid. Though personally I cheat and have one of everything 🙂
Again we see that if women are pretty, they don’t deserve respect and if they aren’t they still don’t deserve respect. Folks have already pointed out that this dude, like so many in the manosphere, thinks everything women do is about him. It couldn’t be that they simply enjoy things that are fun.
I also notice that these guys think every other man is a “beta”and that men women like spending time with are just the worst. What apparently make them “alphas” is that they hate women and they play games. Games. Seriously. I guess they think that if women play the games they won’t feel manly for playing with what are essentially toys for grown-ups. . They have no idea why women like those guys or why women enjoy games, but they know they hate seeing them having fun and making friends. I suspect alot of jealousy is involved in their hatred. People are having fun and making connections they can’t. These are the kids who smash another kid’s sandcastle because they can’t make their own.
They remind me of fundamentalists who seem to spend most of their time upset that somewhere people may be having more fun than they are.
^ Exactly.
Why in the hell are we so wed to another’s purchase/build choices?
(That isn’t aimed at you, katz – your points re: console disadvantages are valid + you weren’t playing the whole no-true-gamer/geek game.)
I wonder if it’s tied into so much of public identity (in the US, anyway) being tied to our roles as consumers.
But that train of thought will get me started on the consumer/citizen dynamic (it seems to have tapered off, but /especially/ during the Bush admin it seemed like anything from the government talked about “American consumers” rather than “American citizens” *flames of rage* ).
And now to undercut my last point ( 😀 ):
School breaks tend to be a time for me to indoctrinate my children, primarily through the use of a mix select beloved media from childhood; newer, curated documentaries, and apps (my 7-year-old’s currently fixated on a couple of intro to coding offerings – they’re really primarily focused on logic, grouping, nesting, and sequencing, but it makes-a me happy 😀 ).
Today’s film (offered during oatmeal and hot chocolate time) is The Phantom Tollbooth (WB, 1970).
Revisiting it, it strikes me that a lot of these gamer goobers could’ve done with a little more Phantom Tollbooth in their childhoods.
I have a console from every generation except the current one, all the way back to Pong. Console wars had a valid ego purpose. Let’s say, for example, that you asked your parents for an NES for Christmas, and they got you a Sega Master System because they didn’t understand there was a difference (*coughcough* not that this happened to me or anything *coughcough*). If this happened to you, then you had to learn to love the Sega, because you sure as hell weren’t going to get an NES at that point, and that meant that you had to hate the NES that you had actually wanted for Christmas so that you wouldn’t stew in bitterness. It was a mental health thing at that point.
Consoles are fantastic if you don’t have a really good computer, because getting one is cheaper than upgrading to a gaming machine because they are more specialized. They serve their purpose. I currently have a bleeding-edge CAD station but I still play a lot of games on a console because I just like them better that way.
@innocentbystanderboston:
You’re welcome to post here as long as you don’t break the commenting rules. The main thing is to actually engage with people if you’re making an argument, and to keep in mind that you are in a feminist space (so random assertions about how “women are like THIS and men are like THAT” don’t fly).
I’m not a video gamer, but I am a nerd of longstanding (president of my college science fiction club and all that) so I’ve been around games and gamers for a loooong time. My theory about what’s going on here is that the GG types are invoking a standard rule of patriarchy, which is that all spaces belong to men by default unless the men don’t want them. But until games got really mainstream, nobody bothered defending that territory, because they didn’t see it as valuable.
Nobody seems to be out there trying to defend tabletop RPG or LARPing from the feminist hordes, for example.
If that’s a standard rule of patriarchy that might explain the phenomenon of “cooking is a woman’s job unless it’s high class and professional in which case only men can do it.”
@proxieme
Oh, that movie. Oh, the ear worms!
Time is a gift, given to you
Given to give you the time you need
The time you need to have the time of your life!
I’ll tell you who’s ruining gaming — 20-year-old entitled assholes who spend more time policing everyone’s behavior than they do actually playing video games.
I finally got Dragon Age Inquisition…not sure about the combat yet, I think I like the second game’s better, but I’m enjoying it so far. What are the rest of y’all playing these days?
@ innocentbystanderboston – “Welcome” is probably the wrong word for the greeting a “true red pill man” will get here, but you won’t get banned or moderated unless you get abusive. We’ve had MRA’s and PUA’s who lingered around here for months or – back in the day – even years.
Oops, and in case I wasn’t clear, IMO it’s the GG-ers who are spending the most time policing and claiming they’re the only ones who are able to properly define who a “real gamer” is.
@Chie Satonaka
I finally decided to learn how to play DMC4 as therapy. No, really, I think it will help me finish recovering from my wrist surgery, as long as I don’t overdo it and only play for 30-60 minutes at a go. I’m really good at other, similar style games and the difficulty ramp for DMC4 is much more gentle than for the other DMCs.
manginas of the highest degree!!
@leaI also notice that these guys think every other man is a “beta”and that men women like spending time with are just the worst. What apparently make them “alphas” is that they hate women and they play games.
This is more what I meant last night (I’m sick* and was very tired as well.) Not that they’re trying to make all the betas thru omegas into alphas, they just want to make them *aspire* to be alphas, more like, I think.
*I finally get a day to rest and recover today, so, huzzah!
Happy New Year, blockquote monster!
I’m also playing DA:Inquisition. Just re-started after being at my parents for Xmas. All I can play there is Guild Wars 1, as they always have the standard laptop graphics card rather than upgrading.
I’m sort of back into playing World of Warcraft with the new expansion. I’m also enjoying playing Papers, Please on my iPad. It’s a… bureaucracy simulator??
I think I might get back into WoW, can’t decide. I still haven’t tried Guild Wars 2 yet, maybe I will start with that one.
Actually, recommendations for iPad games? I, being an eeevil female, actually do just want fun things I can play when commuting/at the coffee shop. I refuse to even consider anything really immersive (like WOW or whatever) because I already have enough time-sucking, crack-like interests.
I’m still playing Guild Wars 2. I downloaded Civilization:Beyond Earth through Steam last week, and have played a couple of games on it. Still trying to figure out how to win and how to work the tech tree into that.
I finished Mass Effect, but can’t connect the PS3 to the Internet in order to import my decisions into ME2. So I’m putting that series on hold until I can connect it. Until then, once my brother goes back to the US mainland for school, I’ll take his Wii and play my old Gamecube games on it. Maybe finish Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker and then do Twilight Princess.