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Vox Day: If a woman says she was raped by a white man, she's probably lying, because only blacks and hispanics rape

There's at least one group that might welcome Vox Day
There’s at least one group that might welcome Vox Day

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I thought I’d seen every variety of rape apologism known to humankind. But this is a new one for me: Fantasy author and garbage human Vox Day (aka Theodore Beale) has decided that all claims of rape directed at white guys are suspect because … white guys don’t rape.

No, really. That’s his actual argument:

White American men simply don’t rape these days. At this point, unless a womann claims it was committed by a black or Hispanic man she didn’t previously know, all claims of rape, especially by a college woman, have to be considered intrinsically suspect.

His, er, source for these claims? A post from the website Women For Men — founded by familiar names Suzanne Venker, Helen Smith and Christina Hoff Sommers — about a video of unknown provenance of a shouting match that involves a white woman accusing a presumably white man of rape. (There are no details on the alleged incident, and it’s not clear from watching the almost literally unbelievable video what exactly happened or if the video is even real.) Needless to say, even if the video is 100% real it doesn’t actually provide anything even remotely approaching evidence for Vox’s racist claims.

Which isn’t surprising given that they aren’t, you know, true. When it comes to rape, of course, whites and blacks are overwhelmingly — roughly 8 out of 10 times — victimized by members of their own race.  And in most cases, as is well-known, rapes are committed by people the victim knows, not the proverbial man hiding in the bushes.

Vox continues on, pulling more “facts” from his posterior:

No one believes that women don’t lie about rape anymore. Even the average feminist is now rolling her eyes when a college woman comes forward and cries rape. This was the inevitable result of creating St. Rape Victim, now every attention-seeking young woman wants to have been raped.

One of Vox’s commenters puts the cherry on this shit sundae:

It’s a sad state of affairs when women have to resort to these tactics to get attention. And even more sad state when they are the ones who put themselves there in the first place by embracing everything that makes them unattractive to men.

Back when Vox was expelled from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, you may recall, he purported to be outraged that people were calling him racist.

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Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Yes, the German Föhn is a real problem there. Headaches, crankiness, the whole nine yards. One time, when I was visiting relatives over there, the München U-Bahn (subway) had to be shut down because a woman had committed suicide by hurling herself on the tracks. The Föhn was blowing at the time. My grandparents lived in a suburb way out the outskirts of the city, where, if you were lucky, you could see the Alps on certain days…but yup, it was always THOSE days. Meaning headaches, crankiness, nausea, lassitude. I can remember feeling really sick one day too, but I’m not sure if it was that or jet lag (because I’d arrived less than 12 hours earlier). I only know that I’d never felt that horrible before, or since. I couldn’t get up or do anything, and I can still hear my brother insulting me over it because I was in pain and crying. (We were in our late teens at the time, for whatever that’s worth.)

And yes, Fön (no h) is the German word for a blow-dryer. No doubt the two are cognates.

(BTW, all German nouns are capitalized. We’re very proper that way!)

As for Chinooks, well, I guess it depends where you are when one hits. I imagine that the closer one is to the Rockies, the more unpleasant it can be, because the winds would be strongest there.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

I had no idea. What a tragic story about that woman who killed herself.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
9 years ago

Thanks bina, Kittenserf and grumpyoldnurse

Mizuki
Mizuki
9 years ago

On the subject on translation, if there is some Japanese text you want to translate for that video, I can attempt it. My Japanese is pretty rusty but I can give it a go.

kittehserf
9 years ago

Harold Lloyd, the first PUA! And to think these clowns think they’re so original … they’ve been parodied ninety years already.

“One who know, and knows, and knows” would make a great line for mocking this lot.

Falconer
9 years ago

I’ve seen Buster Keaton’s “The General.”

http://i.imgur.com/nOHmVZN.gif

Talk about million-dollar shots…

I enjoyed it, but was also kind of meh about it later, because he’s Confederate, and I know I live in the South but fuck ’em for fighting to keep slavery.

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

Vox offering to e-mail people interested in harassing me and anyone I am friends with or associate with, so I’ll just have to send some infiltrators. E-mail voxday at gmail dot com with a message about how you’ll love to get back at me (in your own words, please).

kittehserf
9 years ago

Sorry, what? I don’t know what you’re talking about, yamamanama, but I’m not emailing Vox or any other misogynist/racist/bigot generally, and I’m not wild about you phrasing this like it’s something people here have to do.

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Vox Day…he has assfax. Lots of assfax.

katz
9 years ago

Oh yeah, The General is great. And that was back when, if you wanted to film a train going off a bridge, you had to actually send a train off a bridge.

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

@ yama…make a few throwaway email accounts with free services you don’t have your main account with.
Pose as your own would-be harassers.

contrapangloss
9 years ago

Yeah, no.

Yamamanama, I’m really not comfortable with folks sharing other people’s emails, especially when it’s to spam (regardless of ultimate intent).

Could we not?

kittehserf
9 years ago

Not to mention that not everyone here has the slightest idea how to do the whole fake-IP thing, and I’m really side-eyeing what’s essentially asking other people to set themselves up for harassment, doxxing etc. by Vox and his mates.

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

I didn’t even think of the IP thing.

kittehserf
9 years ago

Also, asking us to troll Pox? How is that any better than him and his kind trying to troll us?

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

Hmm, maybe it isn’t the best idea I ever had.
It’s not the worst idea I’ve ever had, at least. I won’t talk about that, because it’s stupid and would never work.

kittehserf
9 years ago

LOL! I reckon we’d all have stories about “ideas I will never mention in public” … except we’re never gonna mention them in public.

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

It’s one of those ideas that sounds brilliant when you come up with it but when you think more about the details, it’s terrible.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
9 years ago

There’s also the question of why a bunch of strangers would want to serve as your flying monkeys.

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

I never thought of that either, heh.

kittehserf
9 years ago

I’d rather be a flying kitty any day. Never been fond of monkeys, flying or otherwise.

http://img5.visualizeus.com/thumbs/67/fe/cat,miau,,black,cats,speed,animals,,ah,neh,mahlz,-67fec1987b708d98bd36113854d7666e_h.jpg

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

I dunno. I like monkeys.

All animals are important in some way. That’s ecology 101.

kittehserf
9 years ago

Important, absolutely, but that’s not what I was talking about: I said I’m not fond of them. Nothing to do with their place in the environment.

Bonelady
Bonelady
9 years ago

I missed this entry 1st time through. Vox has just posted a “brilliant” and withering response on Vox Popoli, claiming that David can not do the math. Btw, according to him, and at one time confirmed by his Wikipedia entry, he has 3 children; a son and two daughters. The son is around 15, the daughters 12 and 10 or so. The reference has been removed, probably by him. He is very protective of his family’s anonimity, I’ve noticed, something with which l have to sympathize. He lives in Italy, so the best you can hope for are wolves, lynxes, wolverines or brown bears. Sorry to burst any fantasy bubbles.

Lea
Lea
9 years ago

Bonelady,
“Brilliant” as usual, huh? I bet it is. 😉
I don’t believe he has a family. I suspect that Spacebunny and the kids are make believe.