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Vox Day: If a woman says she was raped by a white man, she's probably lying, because only blacks and hispanics rape

There's at least one group that might welcome Vox Day
There’s at least one group that might welcome Vox Day

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I thought I’d seen every variety of rape apologism known to humankind. But this is a new one for me: Fantasy author and garbage human Vox Day (aka Theodore Beale) has decided that all claims of rape directed at white guys are suspect because … white guys don’t rape.

No, really. That’s his actual argument:

White American men simply don’t rape these days. At this point, unless a womann claims it was committed by a black or Hispanic man she didn’t previously know, all claims of rape, especially by a college woman, have to be considered intrinsically suspect.

His, er, source for these claims? A post from the website Women For Men — founded by familiar names Suzanne Venker, Helen Smith and Christina Hoff Sommers — about a video of unknown provenance of a shouting match that involves a white woman accusing a presumably white man of rape. (There are no details on the alleged incident, and it’s not clear from watching the almost literally unbelievable video what exactly happened or if the video is even real.) Needless to say, even if the video is 100% real it doesn’t actually provide anything even remotely approaching evidence for Vox’s racist claims.

Which isn’t surprising given that they aren’t, you know, true. When it comes to rape, of course, whites and blacks are overwhelmingly — roughly 8 out of 10 times — victimized by members of their own race.  And in most cases, as is well-known, rapes are committed by people the victim knows, not the proverbial man hiding in the bushes.

Vox continues on, pulling more “facts” from his posterior:

No one believes that women don’t lie about rape anymore. Even the average feminist is now rolling her eyes when a college woman comes forward and cries rape. This was the inevitable result of creating St. Rape Victim, now every attention-seeking young woman wants to have been raped.

One of Vox’s commenters puts the cherry on this shit sundae:

It’s a sad state of affairs when women have to resort to these tactics to get attention. And even more sad state when they are the ones who put themselves there in the first place by embracing everything that makes them unattractive to men.

Back when Vox was expelled from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, you may recall, he purported to be outraged that people were calling him racist.

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proxieme
proxieme
9 years ago

I’m going to just put this here as brain bleach.

How a Nickelodeon Cartoon Became One of the Most Powerful, Subversive Shows of 2014 http://zite.to/1JwAVUc

M. the Social Justice Ranger
M. the Social Justice Ranger
9 years ago

My rapist was so white, blond-haired, blue-eyed and dudebro-muscled that we joked about how much he looked like Johnny Bravo before he turned on me.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

White American men simply don’t rape these days.

“These days”? You mean there was a time they did, but then they just suddenly all up and quit, because reasons? When was that time, and what were those reasons?

Unless this is a particularly poor (i.e. typical for Beale) opener for a science fiction yarn, this all makes no sense.

vaiyt
9 years ago

My rapist was so white, blond-haired, blue-eyed and dudebro-muscled that we joked about how much he looked like Johnny Bravo before he turned on me.

Fun fact: bro culture turned me off Johnny Bravo for life.

weirwoodtreehugger
9 years ago

“These days”? You mean there was a time they did, but then they just suddenly all up and quit, because reasons? When was that time, and what were those reasons?

I’m guessing this is a “Europe had the enlightenment so white culture evolved and African and Asian cultures stayed primitive” line of bullshit. Because the enlightenment is an example of white perfection when it suits them but is also bad when it suits them because it led to the modern democracy that they hate so much.

Criticaldragon1177
9 years ago

David Futrelle,

Maybe tomorrow we’ll find out that Vox Day, is worried about the horrible “white genocide.”

White supremacist’s genocidal paranoia: Inside the mind of the White Man March founder
http://www.salon.com/2014/04/19/fear_of_anti_white_genocide_inside_the_mind_of_the_white_man_march_founder/

After all, he sounds like he might be racist enough to actually take that stupidity seriously. I mean “white men never commit rape” Face Palm.

ParadoxicalIntention
ParadoxicalIntention
9 years ago

Even the average feminist is now rolling her eyes when a college woman comes forward and cries rape.

http://data2.whicdn.com/images/88774522/large.jpg

And now for a musical interlude, the song that describes my EXACT feelings about Vox Day and his crew:

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
9 years ago

Pretty sure “Of course I didn’t rape her, I’m white!” doesn’t fly in a court of law.

AM
AM
9 years ago

It’s a sad state of affairs that Beale has to resort to these tactics to get attention, especially as he put himself in that position by embracing everything that makes him attractive to, oh, any relevant human ever.

(Rimshot. I apologize.)

And I can’t get over the pathetic safeguards he’s trying to protect the garbage that is his argument with: “these days” so he can claim any rape by a white man prior to whatever date he needs to concoct is irrelevant; “didn’t already know”, because I guess he feels the need to defend even men he thinks of as subhuman from those awful females who were clearly asking for it by being in their presence yet not sleeping with them! Ridiculous.

I know someone who was raped by a white woman. I wonder what his response would be to that?

katz
9 years ago

Pretty sure “Of course I didn’t rape her, I’m white!” doesn’t fly in a court of law.

I fear it might.

AM
AM
9 years ago

*unattractive.

Nice way to make a typo in my first post!

paradoxicalintent
paradoxicalintent
9 years ago

I dunno, “I didn’t murder him because he was black!” seems to fly pretty well.

Michelle C Young
9 years ago

@Bina

“White American men simply don’t rape these days.”

“These days”? You mean there was a time they did, but then they just suddenly all up and quit, because reasons? When was that time, and what were those reasons?

I hate to say it, but it seems to me he’s talking about how white slave owners used to rape their black (and otherwise colored) slaves, but now that slavery is illegal, they stopped.

Barf.

Zolnier
Zolnier
9 years ago

Hell, “I didn’t rape her because she was a woman” seems to work these days. And there goes the psychic barrier between Johnny Bravo and pick up artistry, fare thee well childhood.

Nequam
Nequam
9 years ago

schwa: I wasn’t sure if Vimeo would inline. And I’m sure the animation credits are in the film, but I cannot read Japanese.

Michal
9 years ago

So, by Vox Day’s own logic, John Scalzi is not in fact a rapist like Voxy has claimed so many times before. Huh.

schwadevivre
schwadevivre
9 years ago

@ Nequam – neither can I (weepy smiley)

paradoxicalintent
paradoxicalintent
9 years ago

Zolnler

And there goes the psychic barrier between Johnny Bravo and pick up artistry, fare thee well childhood.

If it makes you feel any better, there was that one episode (Witch-ay Woman) where Johnny got turned into a woman (though it’s through g*psy magic, so that’s kinda gross that they’d use slurs and stereotypes like that), and he realized all the shit that women went through on a daily basis.

So, good for helping men see that women go through a lot of crap, bad for racial slurs.

Nequam
Nequam
9 years ago

schwa: Weirdly, Google search isn’t turning up ANY Romanized name for the animator. Pity.

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Hell, “I didn’t rape her because she was a woman” seems to work these days.

Alas, that only works with decent chaps. These guys are more of the “she’s a woman, therefore she OWES me” variety. They just want it not to count as rape so that they can hang on to the delusion that white men are better than anybody else.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
9 years ago

MRA logic on false accusations on rape tends to go, “This [insert favorite anti-woman slur] claims a man raped her. He told us he didn’t. Therefore, she is a liar who needs to go to jail for decades.”

Bina
Bina
9 years ago

Decades of jail for false reporting? Methinks they do protest too much. No other false reporting gets that, so why rape? Anyway, even with TRUE reporting of rape, a guy’s life is usually not ruined. Either he gets off completely, or he gets a very light sentence. Some ruin!

Plus, imprisoning women for reporting rape would screw up the already overloaded prison system even more, seeing as it’s full of minor drug possession offenders already. But I guess those don’t count, since they’re black, and if their lives get ruined, well, that’s just fine with these guys.

These guys, in short, do not think anything through. It’s just knee-jerk childishness all the way…

yamamanama
yamamanama
9 years ago

Vox is making false accusations of federal crimes and doesn’t see anything wrong with what he’s doing. He’s a hypocrite, plain and simple.

ParadoxicalIntention
ParadoxicalIntention
9 years ago

Bina

Either he gets off completely, or he gets a very light sentence. Some ruin!

But, but! Everyone will look at them funny and they’ll hear people whisper about the rape their entire lives! They’ll have it follow them forever that they were assholes and raped a person and they’ll be RUINED, I tell you! RUINED!

Forever will their reputation be stained by this transgression! How DARE the person they raped tell on them! Now they’ll have to live with the pseudo-shame and pseudo-guilt while their victim has to go to therapy and possibly take medication to help them sleep at night and to help them trust people (men) again, and to perhaps prevent them from committing suicide from all the “she deserved it”s and the “what a [slur]”s and the general blame that will be hurled their way for them being victimized by someone else!

But #NotAllMen. We can’t have someone who was horribly, horribly traumatized by a man hate men or be weary of them! Because that’s misandry!

[/sarcasm]