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Red Pillers agree: "If she did something sexually with an ex that she refuses to do with you, drop her."

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Attention ladies who have sex with men! The sex you are having now is a crime against the hypothetical man or men you will have sex with in the future. At least according to some Red Pill douchebags.

Yesterday, you may recall, we looked at a bizarre and nasty post by pickup guru Roosh Valizadeh that argued, among other things, that all women who aren’t virgins are essentially “soft cuckolding” their future husbands. Because, evidently, any man who marries a woman not only owns her in the present; he retroactively owns her past self as well.

Today, in Reddit’s Red Pill subreddit, we find a fellow called redpilltom making a very similar – if slightly less extreme – argument about women and their sexual pasts.

In a post titled “Never date a woman who won’t do sexual things with you that she did with her other partners,” redpilltom argues that if a woman ever agreed to any sexual act in the past she owes it to you as well.

[I]f you ever, and I mean ever, find out that she did something with an ex that she refuses to do with you, drop her. Drop her fast and drop her hard. This goes from giving it up on X number of dates, to certain sexual acts that you want to do, to threesomes, to the frequency of sex.

Yep. As redpilltom sees it, if a woman says yes to anal sex with one man, she’s obliged to say yes to every future partner who wants anal. To refuse would be a deep insult to whoever she’s dating – and evidence that she sees her current partner as the simpering “beta” in the Red Pill catchphrase “Alpha fucks, Beta bucks.”

It is not only the #1 sign of being on the losing end of the AF/BB relationship, but it screams “Oh, well I felt I needed to impress and be good to them, but you seem easy enough that I don’t need to put in effort.” Do yourself a favor and move on to a woman who sees you as equal or better to the men who used to fuck her. Don’t settle for being second best.

It’s not as if what she wants matters at all in this equation. As redpilltom and his fellow Red Piller see it, sex isn’t something that women desire or enjoy — except with hunky alphas. It’s something that women have in their possession – and which non-alpha men have to get from them, by hook or by crook.

And if for whatever reason, good or bad, a woman “gave” a man in her past a certain sex act, she can’t change her mind and refuse to “give” it to you.

For the women who may be getting furious reading this, just imagine what it was like if you knew your boyfriend was rich.

Oh dear. This can’t be going anywhere good. Red Pillers regularly denounce women as “whores” and “golddiggers” who trade (their) sex for (men’s) money – at least when it comes to betas with bucks. But Red Pill dudes themselves see sex as essentially an economic transaction.

Imagine that he always brought his ex’s out on really nice vacations, nice house, bought them really nice gifts, treated them like princesses, etc. But he refused to do any of that with you, he wanted to be frugal with you even though he has more than enough money to treat you. Wouldn’t you feel a little bit weird about it? Wouldn’t you question why you were different, why he didn’t care to treat you the same? Why the sudden change?

I don’t know, maybe he’s older and wiser and realized that he was spending too much money and driving himself into debt? Maybe he got tired of an ex who only “rewarded” him with sex when he spend a lot of money on her? Or maybe his ex got tired of him trying to buy sex with money.

Hell, maybe he realized that the whole “sex for money” equation is an unhealthy basis for a romantic relationship?

In a followup comment, redpilltom makes clear he has no interest in hearing what the woman has to say about any of this.

ForbiddenFruit420 13 points 14 hours ago   What if she doesn't want to do it with you because she didn't enjoy it with her ex?      permalink     save     report     give gold  [–]redpilltom [S] 37 points 14 hours ago   That's something that's a bit more delicate and requires a bit more context. "I tried anal with my ex but stopped him because I didn't like it" is different than "I used to do it all the time with my ex, but didn't really like it". The context in the first was "I didn't like how it felt so I stopped" and the second was "I didn't really care for it, but he loved it so I did it for him". Overall it doesn't carry the same weight as the "I'm not that kind of girl anymore" BS that the post is more about, but it is a huge red flag and you should keep your eye out for more signs you're getting strung along.  And, of course, women lie up and down about their sexual history. If a woman tells you she only tried something once briefly but hated it, it's pretty likely that she did it multiple times and loved it in the context of an alpha guy who gave her more tingles than you.
Red Pill dudes, if you’re so deathly afraid of becoming a beta shelling out bucks for sex that alphas get for free, maybe you should stop seeing sex as an essentially economic transaction in which the desires of women – or at least their desire for anything but money – counts for nothing.

But in the meantime if you do decide to break up with a woman because she won’t have anal sex with you like she did in her college days – or whatever – you’re actually doing her a giant favor. Because no one deserves to be stuck in a relationship with someone like you.

H/T — r/thebluepill

 

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Michelle C Young
5 years ago

At Lea – I definitely need to avoid drinking milk while reading these comments!

You owe me a new monitor.

No, wait. I can wipe it up. Thank goodness for keyboard trays, though. The keyboard was protected! Yay!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

@ Michelle

It’s also why men have always tried so hard to create discord between younger women and older ones. If younger women can be convinced that older women are out to get them or not worth talking to then that prevents the older women from successfully passing on information that might help the younger women spot sketchy behavior from men or learn ways of handling men’s attempts to control them. Teaching young women to despise older ones ensures that each new generation will have to fight the exact same battles as the previous one, thus also ensuring that any progress will happen at a glacial pace.

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

@cassandrakitty – that article is not one bit surprising. Jerks online are jerks in real life? OK.

@Lea – yep. Any excuse.

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

@cassandrakitty – WOW! You just blew my mind.

I doubt they think about it consciously, get together in secret meetings, and plot ways to make the younger generation despise the older one, or make teenager think their mothers “just don’t understand them,” but yeah, in an individual relationship, I can totally see that! It’s a classic abuse technique.

Doing that on a larger scale, with each MRA doing it with all of his targets, would have an impressive cumulative effect.

Interestingly, I remember the day I realized I was an actual adult. It was at a church women’s auxiliary meeting, where we were learning how to can tomatoes, and I just felt all this sisterhood with the older women there, realizing that we had so much in common, and that they were not, in fact, too un-hip or out of it for me to relate to them. And they saw me as an adult, too, talking to me the same way they talked to the others. From then on, age was no barrier to friendship, and I learned so much!

Frankly, I love listening to older people, because even if they aren’t good story-tellers, they all have good stories to tell. Who need to watch soap operas, when you can visit some people with real life experiences to share? And it’s even better if you can learn from those experiences, and not make the same mistakes.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

It’s the relationships that I had with my mother’s friends, and sitting listening to their stories, that made me a feminist. When you do that you start seeing the patterns and the way that misogyny limits women’s lives in similar ways in all kinds of different cultures, and how similar women’s life patterns are across different generations. Preventing that from happening is an excellent way of making sure that the same pattern continues.

Falconer
5 years ago

@cassandrakitty: That is really very disappointing to hear from del Toro.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

It really was. Like I said, the other two? It was kind of obvious from watching their movies. But from Del Toro I expected better.

dashapants
dashapants
5 years ago

@Lea

All human beings have that impulse. A person picks up a small bird, the first thing they feel is how fragile and defenseless it is, and the reason they do is because of instant realization that they can easily hurt it. In some people that idea causes instant recoil, so they become more protective, for other people it’s a sick thrill they embrace. I think the trick to not being horrible is not necessarily to push the idea away, but to see it properly and reject it because it’s awful. A person who embraces the idea is clearly sadistic, but a person who just pushes it away unexamined can easily overlook it in a different context simply by having dismissed it in the past as something that they can’t possibly do (that’s how “I am not a rapist, therefore she was asking for it” happens). Some of these men are openly vile. Others can pretend to themselves that they are not horrible simply because they have shoved that possibility out of their conscious mind. All people have a cruel streak. Kind people are just aware of it and keep it on a short leash.

Bina
Bina
5 years ago

So what if one of these men somehow (hypothetically–let’s say the planets aligned and lightning struck the clock tower and, I don’t know, he managed to keep his dickishness hidden for a couple of dates) ended up with a sexual partner who admitted to him that she’d pegged an ex-boyfriend? Would he then, by this logic, be obligated to demand that she get out her strap-on for him as well? What if she had been with dudes who had liked her to step on their tender parts? Would he have to demand that she do the same?

Well, following Pillock logic, I think she’s obligated to DEMAND that he submit to a good pegging, because her ex did and he loved it. Fair’s fair, even-steven, etc., etc.!

“Oh, yeah… well, the last time I saw Benny, I was removing a zucchini from him. We had a fight about proper etiquette, and I told him I was not going to use my salad tongs and kicked him out.”

Meh…I associate those clamshell-type salad tongs with tacky all-you-can-eat salad bars, so they’re expendable. My old-fashioned two-piece salad cutlery, on the other hand, is SACRED!

And if she won’t eat the food because she had an allergic reaction to it, went into anaphylactic shock and had to be hospitalized, well, she’s just damaged goods, a broken woman, and you should NEXT her, even if it isn’t “her fault.”

Well, when she’s being wheeled out with a sheet over her head, I guess “next”ing her is kind of mandatory. But yeah, that’s their logic, isn’t it? Who cares if it harms her — the boner wants what it wants (to paraphrase Woody Allen and get at what he REALLY meant when he said that). And what it wants, it must GET, whether she wants it or not. And no matter that the “want” is conditioned by inane and destructive societal expectations, most of which these guys would never have if not for porn and stupid Reddit forums.

I start a stopwatch at the beginning of all my relationships so I know exactly when to have sex with them! It’s very handy; it would have been mortifying to forget and have to take the relationship as it develops, organically and so that all parties involved are comfortable with what’s going on.

Hey, me too! Mine is set to ring when jewelry makes its appearance. So far, I’ve gotten a diamond tennis bracelet, an emerald choker, a ruby cocktail ring, and a Rolex out of it.

I’m guessing they’re also fans of the “if it isn’t working then kick it” school of appliance maintenance.

I’m guessing you’re right. But if one of them ever comes up to me with this broken record spiel, I’mma do to him what Fonzie did to the jukebox at Arnold’s.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

As a horror fan, it’s pretty obvious to me that this is the same reason torture porn and slasher flicks almost always feature young, vital people. Beautiful young women, especially get used to titillate in the goriest ways possible. It’s why the young, beautiful, wealthy and the athletic are often portrayed as deserving what they get. What they have is unattainable. They are unattainable. The more the character has to lose, the more some people get a sick thrill from watching it taken away. It’s a kind of twisted envy finding release.

That’s probably true and it’s unfortunate because it hurts the quality of horror movies. I want to be afraid for the characters, not happy to see them killed off. If I’m watching a horror movie and find myself eagerly waiting for the kills to start, that movie has failed IMO. It means the characters are poorly developed and no suspense has been built.

My rec for recent horror is the Australian film The Babadook. It’s so spooky and creepy and there’s some actual substance to it.

I also like Mike Flanagan’s work so far. Oculus was good but his earlier indie horror film Absentia is one of my favorites. It’s atmospheric and suspenseful. It’s does Lovecraftian horror in a way that’s actually scary because it doesn’t show you much. The two leads are both women and neither of them look like models or like porn stars. They look like regular people and both characters are very well developed. I’ll probably never go in a tunnel on foot without being terrified after seeing this movie. I can’t recommend it enough.

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

They have a dream of also being her ex. That’s what they’re envious of, right? Being dumped?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

I like horror too, and it really troubles me how many horror movies there are where at some point you find yourself sitting there thinking “the man who made this movie really, truly hates women”. I’m not talking about standard issue sexism that shows up in most men, I’m talking about MRA level misogyny, outright hatred. You can see it in the Saw movies, and in Hostel, and in a lot of Miike’s work, and if you took that aspect out of Dario Argento’s work his movies would all be about 5 minutes long. And the thing is, horror movies don’t need that to be scary, that sexualized sadism that’s specifically aimed at women, and I don’t think the male audience that it’s intended for even find those parts of those movies scary, I think they find them erotic. Which makes me want to go rinse my brain out with bleach.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

That’s a good point about the ones dying always being young, beautiful and rich i.e 2% of the population. If most people can’t relate to the character then they won’t be so upset at their deaths and the intended point is the torture itself, not making the audience feel bad for the victims. That’s what sicko directors want. Schadenfreude.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

It’s also why men have always tried so hard to create discord between younger women and older ones.

That dynamic also keeps women from advancing at work. Young male employees have older male mentors. Young female employees have older female rivals.

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

Holy insecurities, batman! These guys are just deathly worried that everyone else is better than them and having more fun then them, aren’t they? It sure explains the whole “Women that would have sex with me are worthless” self loathing thing they’ve got going on, eh?

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Personally I steer well clear of horror films that involve torturous human suffering. I can’t handle it. I feel too bad for the characters. If I want my horror fix then I’ll watch a different kind of film or read a creepypasta.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

I found the reactions to the movie I Saw The Devil interesting in that a lot of people seemed to find the violence inflicted on the villain far more disturbing than the violence that he inflicted upon multiple women and girls. Part of that was probably just because it’s something that you don’t usually see, the monster being tortured the same way he tortured other people, and part of it was the shock of seeing the protagonist doing those things, but I honestly think that part of it was that we’ve been trained not to empathize with female victims in horror movies, so their suffering is almost part of the scenery, but a male main character being hurt? That’s a shock, because to some extent the audience is expected to empathize with any main male character even if he is a monster.

seraph4377
5 years ago

Late to the conversation, so I’m going to throw all my thoughts out at once:

1) If I’m with an experienced partner, I love to hear their stories, but that’s the extent of my concern about their sexual history (once we have health issues taken care of, of course).

2) I know I shouldn’t be so amazed by the range of ages on this blog, but I am. Every time. For the young ‘uns who’ve never been in a romantic or sexual relationship, there are definitely worse places you could come for advice. And if you’re worried that the reading material is giving you a skewed view of men…well, some of us are guys, too. Judge us by what you see.

3) That is disappointing as hell about Del Toro. I’m a big horror fan myself, but I’ve never enjoyed the “take that, bitch” school of filmmaking.

4) I suspect I can guess what their answer would be to this:

So what if one of these men somehow (hypothetically–let’s say the planets aligned and lightning struck the clock tower and, I don’t know, he managed to keep his dickishness hidden for a couple of dates) ended up with a sexual partner who admitted to him that she’d pegged an ex-boyfriend? Would he then, by this logic, be obligated to demand that she get out her strap-on for him as well? What if she had been with dudes who had liked her to step on their tender parts? Would he have to demand that she do the same?

That answer would be that the woman’s sexual history is a salad bar for him to take what he likes and leave the rest. He isn’t obligated to do anything sexually; men bring something different to the relationship (betas bring their bucks, and alphas like themselves bring umm mumble muffle). However, since women bring nothing but sex, they have to give whatever the man wants, especially if they’ve given it to someone else before.

(Because of course women don’t actually want sex for its own sake, they trade it to men for something else they actually want. They trade it to alphas for status and betas for bucks, so the man has to make sure he gets full value.)

And now I need to go wash my hands in bleach.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I really liked I Saw The Devil. The main character gets his revenge and I was pleased about it, but getting that vengeance isn’t a win and it doesn’t bring him any satisfaction. His need to draw out the process and make the killer suffer winds up causing more death and destruction. The man spurred to vengeance after his wife or girlfriend is raped or killed is an overdone and original trope but I didn’t feel that while watching I Saw The Devil. Plus, Lee Byung-Hun is really hot.
http://fims.kofic.or.kr/upload/up_img/cleansing/26/peo_10055626_1.jpg

I haven’t seen anyone expressing any empathy for the killer, but sadly it’s not a surprise that people would be more upset at a man being stalked, brutalized and killed instead of a woman. Maybe that’s why people find Audition so shocking even though there isn’t any torture and gore until the ending.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

I meant unoriginal trope.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

Look at the comments about Lady Vengeance on imdb – there are people who were more upset about the main character being a “bad mother” than anything else in the movie. This is a movie that features child kidnapping and murder, rape, and an extended torture sequence ending in, yep, more murder! But a woman’s lack of idea maternal virtues was the thing that people felt needed to be focused on.

I mostly loved I Saw The Devil too, but felt like some of the scenes where the villain was molesting young girls could have done with being a bit less graphic. That part really wasn’t necessary in order to get across what a monster he was, it was just gratuitous wank material for the men in the audience who get off on sexual sadism, imo.

duckbunny
5 years ago

If a man wants something a woman doesn’t, she’s lying.
If a woman wants something a man doesn’t, she’s a freak.

jayemgriffin
5 years ago

What if the reason I don’t want to try it again is because it triggered the fuck out of me the first and only time and I ended up fracturing the ex’s ribs?

(Sidenote: DO NOT pin someone with serious claustrophobia/anxiety down. EVER. Not even during sexytimes. Not even if you’re just kidding. It does not end well for you.)

Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
5 years ago

A dildo in a little suit!!!!!

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

Re: Horror movies – I almost never watch them. However, I have watched enough (like once a year, for Halloween) to get a whole slew of the jokes in “The Cabin In the Woods,” which was great for me. I mean, it set up everything so much, I knew just when to expect the “jump” scene, so I didn’t jump, so I didn’t hurt myself watching it.

I threw my back out watching Harry Potter, because it caught me by surprise.

Not that “The Cabin In the Woods” was boring or predictable. I mean, they used music to establish a rhythm, so you knew just what beat to expect the blow, and other such tricks. They used the tropes and pointed out that they WERE tropes. It was so meta, and I loved it.

I loved, too, that they made the “slut” character a woman in a committed relationship, and the “virgin,” character? “Well, we take what we can get.” LOL!

They even pointed out that the obligatory breast scene was, in fact, obligatory, and showed only one, because they had met their quota.

And they pointed out that the victims MUST be young. It was a requirement.

If you like horror flicks, and you like Joss Whedon, I highly recommend this film.

I also like the Scream movies, and the way they play with the tropes.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

One of my favorite parts of Cabin In The Woods was that the bimbo was only a bimbo because they put some sort of chemical in her blonde hair dye. I also loved the running merman gag.

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

@jayemgriffin – That reminds me of high school health class. The teacher wanted a “volunteer” to help him demonstrate the proper way to wrap a sprained ankle, and chose me.

I told him, nope, bad idea. I’m reaaaalllly ticklish.

He said that I was going to do it and that was that.

I tried to comply. I really, really did. It’s not my fault that I started laughing hysterically, flailing around and kicked him in the face.

REALLY!

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

@wwth – my favorite part was the collapsible bong. I WANT one!

Not that I’d smoke it. I just think it’s too cool for words.

OOooh! And the part where the guy says, “Whatever we do, we stick together! Do NOT split up!” and the watchers all groan.

Oh, and the cute little Japanese girls.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

dashapants ,
I agree, but I don’t think the outcome of that impulse is innate. Crushing cute little animals is a thing some people get off on. *barf* There are Ted Bundy’s among us. (bad example as he was likely groomed to hate and harm women by his maternal grandfather.) Still, I think it is less simple than people following an individual inclination toward how they use power. I think it has to do with how much power they think they deserve and how much abuse the target deserves.
I think alot of cruelty is taught. The the entitlement/ resentment/ cruelty / release cycle feeds itself and may randomly occur in people, but the targets are not accidents.

I brought up animal abuse. As horrible as abuse of pets is, there is far more abuse happening to non-pet animals. People keep animals in inhumane conditions and kill animals for food all the time because we justify that cruelty. It’s cultural that we don’t care about a chicken the way we care about a kitten or a puppy. Chop off some chickens’ heads in your back yard some time. Nobody will care. Then, try the same thing with dogs. You will get a different reaction. I think the same holds true with certain groups of people. We assign them more or less value. More or less humanity. Blending up a kitten is perverse. Tossing chicks into the hopper alive is just how we do things. No big deal. We have created a hierarchy that determines how much something can suffer without it pricking our consciences.

For some people, pets don’t rank any higher than flies on that scale and I believe it makes them feel superior somehow. A visit to an Amish puppy mill will make you boggle at the idea that the Amish are gentle people. They think they are because they would never treat a person the way they treat soulless animals.

Right now in the US white cops are gunning down black boys in the streets because those boys are a safe target and they can’t fight back. They’re future is fragile and in the cops’ hands. But, I think there is more than that to it. They are socialized to see black boys as older, bigger, tougher and let’s not forget, better in bed than white men are. According to toxic masculinity those are the only metrics that matter. Yet, they are also taught to see black men and boys as beneath them and less deserving than they are. That dissonance, entitlement and resentfulness feeds the violence. They don’t just want to hurt black people. They feel entirely justified in doing so.

The same is true of men raping, abusing and killing women. Sure the women are at a disadvantage. We tend to be smaller. The authorities don’t give two shits about us. We’re socialized to acquiesce to men and to be less violent than men are socialized to be, but that isn’t why they do it. They do it because they believe they are entitled to us, better than us and angry when they can’t control, conquer or compete with us. Rape is about power. It is about destroying a woman’s “value” and making something wonderful a weapon (again the theme of destroying something beautiful because you resent it). Maybe he can make her feel like less, because her existing outside of that man’s control makes him feel like less. The men who do those things also feel entirely justified in doing them.

In their minds, those people are striking back at perceived injustices. Women and minorities fail to be appropriately inferior and that hurts bigots’ feefees so…

TRIGGER WARNING: hate crime / murder

In the news today I saw an American serviceman drowned a Filipino transwoman in a toilet. Like all people who commit hate crimes, I think he did it because he thought he should be able to do it. I’m sure he enjoyed it more because she was so lovely (because how dare she be beautiful, proud, sexual and trans.), but mostly he thought he should get to punish her. In his mind, I have no doubt that she “deserved” it and he deserves to be able to do it.

END TRIGGER

Well, now I’m sad. I must go hug sweet and fluffy things and have a hot cocoa.

Tracy
Tracy
5 years ago

I also like Mike Flanagan’s work so far. Oculus was good but his earlier indie horror film Absentia is one of my favorites.

Someone else has seen Absentia!!!! *jumps up and down* I LOVE that movie. Stuck with me for a long time, and I am veddy veddy picky about horror flicks, esp. since so many of them are tired cliches. Haven’t seen Oculus yet.

Also thank you for letting me forget, for a minute, about how badly I want to punch something after reading that Reddit thread.

This really fucking got to me:

In a similar situation, I’m willing to smash a chick with a friend or two of mine. Regardless of how sexy she was. But NEVER would I do this with a chick I’m dating. If she even asked me to do this, I would next her.

With that being said, I would also never LTR a chick who had a FFM threesome and I had never had one. Either she needs to give me one or I’m going to go get one myself. Point blank. Having a FFM threesome is one of the top things on my bucket list.

BUT, if she had threesomes with her previous LTR(s), then she will need to have them with me as well. Same position, same benefits. This is not negotiable.

then after some comments from others…

I agree. I’m not dissing her for that. It would actually be MY problem. Knowing my girl has had a threesome with some other guy would not only make me jealous, but it would be a constant reminder of the fact that I haven’t had one. Nothing against her.

So:

* would have MMF 3some with a friend and a woman he is not dating, but
* would dump a girlfriend who even asked him about a MMF 3some
* would only form relationship with a woman who had experienced a FFM 3some in the past IF she ‘gives him one’, because
* FFM 3some is tops on his bucket list and is non negotiable and
* he will go get one (from where, 3somes R Us?), otherwise presumably he dumps her.
* This is nothing against her, of course, it’s just that he’s jealous because HIS GIRL had a sex life before him, and he also hates being reminded that he’s never achieved this apparent apex of sexytimes, which is some sort of trophy in his mind (“You have unlocked the 3some achievement! Your Sexer Score is 1035! Here’s a badge for your profile!”).

Like… fuuuuuuuck. Some self-awareness flitted in there at the end, it really did. Maybe one day it will stick.

From my time as a phone sex operator, I gleaned that for some men certain sex acts were seen as… well, like game levels. Ok you’ve done PIV, gotten a BJ… now have to beat the ‘Facial’ and ‘Anal’ levels to get to the big ‘FFM Threesome’ boss.

Want to punch stuff, will cuddle a kitty instead.

Tracy
Tracy
5 years ago

In their minds, those people are striking back at perceived injustices.

@Lea, seconding everything you said. But that, above? That is what truly terrifies me about people like this. They think they’re not only right, but that they are somehow victims fighting back. People like this are true horror to me.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
5 years ago

That’s the thing, you can’t reason with someone who thinks that by abusing other people they’re striking a blow for cosmic justice. Aggrieved entitlement is a very dangerous thing.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Cassandra: And yet MRAs are constantly complaining that women “play the victim card” if they are raped have sex they regret.

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Dammit the strikethrough html didn’t work.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

On the first day of Misandramas my true love gave to me…

A dildo in a little suit!!!!!

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

I seriously hope that none of these men date any woman ever. Nobody deserves this crap.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

Also, every man who has referred to having sex with a woman as “smashing her,” “wrecking that chick,” “destroying her vadge,” or any similarly violent phrase that involves them breaking women like overused toys, should wake up in a panic every 2 hours every night for the rest of his life worried that he left the stove on.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Misandramas! Love it! If only I had art skills, I’d make an advent calendar.

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

@Lea – I largely avoid the news, because I don’t want to see stories like that.

I have no words for that.

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

On the second day of Misdramas, my true love gave to me, Two Blue Balls, and a dildo in a little suit!

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

Also, I wouldn’t want to WATCH it, because horror movies are just not really my thing, but if someone were to write a script for a horror movie where the villain is an MRA, taking his beliefs to the extreme, I think it would good.

Shine a light on that stuff, you know?

Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
5 years ago

I’m sorry for this…

5 anal beads
4 sparkly butt plugs
3 strap ons
2 pleather handcuffs
and a dildo in a little suit

I’ve learned many great curses from the commenters here. Now I’m trying to remember the one about the sock drawer. May a smelly yak inhabit your sock drawer?

Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
5 years ago

2 blue balls, lol. Much more misandrous than handcuffs!

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

Oh, Emmy Rae, yours is better.

Let’s see, now, what can we have for six?

Michelle C Young
5 years ago

Six ex-boyfriends!

Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
5 years ago

7 fake phone numbers!

sunnysombrera
5 years ago

8 scented candles?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
5 years ago

9 wooden chairs

Falconer
5 years ago

10 pairs of spanx!

seraph4377
5 years ago

@ Michelle – Hmm. That could be tricky. The problem would be differentiating the MRA villain from your standard-issue misogynist monster or serial killer.

In any case, it would be a dark, dark movie – enslavement, sexual assault, torture, humiliation – without even the psychological protection that you get in, say, a Saw movie, where the traps and torture devices are so ridiculously overbuilt and the plans so Byzantine that you know it would all fall apart immediately in the real world.

If you wanted to broaden the scope a bit, you could easily create a dystopic sci-fi world that would make Gilead from A Handmaid’s Tale look like Shangri-La. In fact, they’ve given a bit of a head start by writing some horrific, mind-scarring sci-fi of their own.

(Trigger warning. All the Trigger warnings.)