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It’s not exactly news that the slimeball pickup artists I write about on this blog have a bit of a double standard when it comes to sexuality. What is still surprising to me, even after years of reading these guys, is just how much they hate women for sleeping with guys like them.
For proof, look no further than the latest blog post by Roosh Valizadeh, an utterly appalling slice of misogyny that’s terrible even by Roosh’s low standards.
After a weirdly obtuse “critique” of a video by Swedish pop star Tove Lo – Roosh has a little trouble telling the difference between the singer and the depressed, self-destructive hedonist she portrays in her video – he launches into a vicious tirade against “the current generation of women” that seems driven as much by his own sexual insecurities and self-hatred as it is by hatred of women.
Roosh – a man who moved to Eastern Europe in pursuit of casual sex, a man who makes his living teaching men his dubious pickup techniques – starts off by denouncing women for indulging their own sexual desires with multiple men.
This sluttification of women, which Tove Lo’s catchy song conveys as normal and even fun, is part of a culture where every man who seeks serious relationships with women is a soft cuckold, because he’s the last man in a 30-man gangbang trying to give tender kisses on the lips and labia of a woman who has been rode hard and defiled for years.
That’s right: Roosh evidently thinks every woman who has sex with a man other than him is thereby “cuckolding” him.
How can any man who approaches a girl today see her as more than a cum bucket? Because let’s be real: she has been serving as a cum bucket thanks to a perverse culture that methodically trains and encourages her to take buckets of cum from men who make her vagina tingle, all as a way to help her “grow” as a person, find herself, and become strong and independent, which means not sobbing for more than a day when the latest bad boy she fell for turned out to be a selfish person who didn’t value her beyond the sexual.
What makes this especially creepy isn’t just the double standard; it’s that this is Roosh’s opinion of the women he spends his entire life trying to get into bed.
This is the girl who’s going to be your lifelong faithful partner? The girl who’s going to be the mother of your children?
Wait. So Roosh is telling us that after a few years of riding the vagina carousel, as it were, Roosh wants to settle down and get married? The irony, it burns.
I cringe at that notion, as should all men. I rather be an evolutionary dead-end that let a whore be the mother of my child, but men today are being trained to accept the whore mother and to be the soft cuckold, the sucker that gets to buy the goods at full price even though it has declined 80% of value from its peak.
Seriously, Roosh, please be an evolutionary dead-end.
Not that he’s likely to be able find a willing bride, unless he somehow prevents the woman in question from Googling his name and finding out what he actually believes.
It’s amazing that in just three generations, women have gone from being potential wives and mothers to nothing more than fuck toys. Men used to meet traditionally minded virgins, but are now stuck with a seemingly unlimited pool of mediocre sluts who have been fucked in the ass by multiple men.
So Roosh is shocked that the women he has casual sex with are women who … have casual sex?
Why would he think that his brilliant pickup strategy of pursuing drunk women in bars would result in him meeting a lot of “traditionally minded virgins?”
This is complete and utter decimation of the female human.
Apparently penises are so destructive to women that any woman who encounters more than one in her lifetime is “utterly decimated” by contact with them.
Men can no longer gain any meaning or value from a woman beyond sex, even if he is truly capable of being the world’s number one dad, and rest assured that the degeneracy that has so swallowed America whole will spread throughout the world from the trojan horse technology out of Silicon Valley.
Yep. He’s angry and jealous that iPhones give women more options in dating than just him.
And he also somehow seems to think he’s capable of being “the world’s number one dad.”
How did this happen? How did we get to this point? A book can be written on the answer, but understand that trillions of dollars are to be made by destroying the feminine mother and putting a mindless and shallow consumer fuck robot in her stead.
Oh dear. Here come the conspiracy theories.
The finger can be pointed at the elite and their useful idiots for creating this environment, but the fact still remains that this is not a good time to be a normal man with the normal need to reproduce with a good woman who will stay loyal to him, raise his kids right, retain a thin figure, and take care of his home.
Wow. What a great deal for a woman! I can’t understand why women aren’t lining up in droves for the chance to marry this prize of a man.
A man who puts in triple overtime and travels abroad can find the exceptions, but for the lot of men in the Western world, there is no longer any meaning beyond casual sex that can be gained from women. These are end times for traditional pair bonding.
And yet somehow most people end up in relationships, and the world isn’t exactly running out of babies.
So on that note, I urge you to learn game, seduce these inadequate women, and try out those moves you’ve seen in porn, because that sex drive of yours is not going anywhere and must be sated for your own mental health.
I’ve rarely seen a man so eager to announce to the world that he has absolutely no idea how to satisfy a woman in bed. Or even an understanding as to why satisfying a woman might be a good thing not only for her but for him as well.
Beyond that, however, don’t expect much more, because women can no longer provide you with what women of the past so easily could.
Roosh Valizadeh, everyone – a man who thinks he could be the greatest dad ever.
So how does a man end up loathing the women who sleep with him … because they sleep with him?
I’m not sure that’s the right question. I think Roosh’s real anger is directed at the women who won’t sleep with him – but will sleep with other men.
After all, as Roosh has often acknowledged, the life of a would-be “pickup artist” isn’t one of endless triumphs. In fact, it’s one of constant rejection, as the overwhelming majority of the women that these guys approach have no interest in them.
Instead of being able to roll with this – rejection is an inevitable part of romantic life for everyone – Roosh sees this rejection as a personal affront. In his mind, these women are denying him something that he is entitled to, something that he has worked hard for – hell, he even moved to Eastern Europe in an attempt to find more pliable women to pursue.
That’s why he feels he’s been “cuckolded” by any woman who sleeps with men other than him.
This isn’t just fucked up. Roosh’s philosophy is dangerous to women, as is he.
Michelle – 😀
Purely objectively, he’s seriously one of the most impressive people that I’ve ever known.
Wall of grammatically incorrect tl;dr following…sorry, I get worked up whenever I think about it.
Horrible physical abuse as a child (like, “and now you’ve been knocked out” abuse); mental abuse; periods of homelessness and vagrancy with his addict parents; neglect; beaten horribly both for being a white kid in subsided housing (in fairness, the worst time was by some older, out-of-town teens who were visiting and they were quickly turned in by neighbors because my husband was just a nice kid) and for for being a n*****-lover (a phrase amazingly still used in parts of the south in the 1990s); hunger (after his parents’ divorce/after his dad fled the state to dodge child support, his best/only meals were often free breakfast and lunch at school until he turned 15 and got a job); annnd a dollap or two more of just plain shadiness (ex: when he was 12/13, his Mom would have him drive her to the bar, wait outside, and then drive her back because she already had two DUIs and didn’t want a third…really), mental abuse (generalized awfulness and regularly derided as a “f*****” by his mother for reading and playing D&D rather than bringing girlfriends back to his happy home), and dealing with severe mental illness (his mom was involuntarily committed three times during his childhood – the last time for attempting to burn down their house).
Oh, and as a little cherry on top (a mild afterthought, really, when you consider everything else) in TWO different states, public school officials attempted to pull him out of the general curriculum – once for advanced, individualized study and once to attend the NC School of Math and Science – and both times his parents didn’t give consent.
Free supplemetation for a kid that apparently tested off the charts even with approximately zero stimulation at home and his parents just couldn’t be sussed.
So, in middle school he was placed in special ed because his IQ and aptitude tests didn’t match up with his in-class performance (because he was bored to tears and had a tumultuous home life and so skated with Bs and Cs).
-_-
*deep breath*
I get considerably more upset about it than he does (or, at least, does now). Part of me wishes that I could travel back in time and be an avenging angel (because, hey, if I can time travel why not go whole hog and have magical justice powers? Maybe throw in a burning sword of light) – or, hell, make sure one of the apparently multiple child services investigations that had been initiated didn’t peter out.
*shrugs*
But his past is also what shaped him into the awesomely empathetic and thoughtful person that he is today and I can’t imagine that foster care would’ve been a bed of roses, so it is what it is I suppose.
Wow, I just burned through half of our toddler’s nap time. I’m going to go chop some more wood while she’s *crossing fingers* still asleep.
End of gratuitous tl;dr
On a personal level, his life is why I have very little patience for the whining of MRA/PUA man-children* about how the world hasn’t been everything they could’ve asked for or wanted.
* By that I don’t mean that the effects of abuse and neglect don’t exist or that complaints about / observances regarding economic, ethnic, racial, etc injustice are by any means invalid or frivolous; but, rather, that the vast majority of the tirades by MRAs are the tantrums of spoiled children in comparison to the actual issues that many people face – and sometimes through tireless effort – work through and overcome every day.
So much this. And it’s the reason why divorce rates suddenly shot up in the ’70s, too…when no-fault divorce began to be legal. Then, all the unhappily-married-for-all-the-wrong-reasons folks finally could give up the charade, stop staying together because “it’s the thing to do”, and get on with their lives. After that, things settled back down again. Birth control being readily available to the unmarried meant a reduction in shotgun weddings; feminism made it okay for women to seek careers outside of the traditional feminine sphere; no-fault divorce meant that if you married the wrong person at the wrong time for the wrong reasons, you could at least undo your mistake before it ate up your life. All these things combined to make for a gradual decline in divorce rates over the decades, and set the conditions so that those who did marry, could do so happily and reasonably expect to stay together for life.
And yet, MRAs think those circumstances are a Bad Thing. Not for the reasons they claim, of course, because it’s obvious that if those things were so horrible and unnatural, or made women miserable, women wouldn’t do them. No, it’s because MRAs really do WANT women to be miserable, and are pissed that so many means of punishing them have either been taken away or rendered null and void. Male supremacy depends on female misery, and that’s why they’re trying so hard to shove all that toothpaste back into the ol’ tube.
Shaenon
I did see that bit, and it was funny. :3 Thanks for reminding me of the name!
Michelle C. Young
:O Thank you too!
Linax5
Actually, if a woman’s tight during sex, she’s actually not aroused. :/ So, if Roosh and Company are actually having sex with women and value tightness, then divines help those poor women.
The vagina gets wet and loose if it’s aroused. So, that whole thing about women being “loose” is actually just them being aroused, not “slutty, slutty whores”.
Personally, I partially blame shit Sex Ed, partially blame casual sexism.
omg… watched the video, and there is a skull on the table. I guess that means Baby LaVey will be his caretaker. Oh oh oh, this must happen.
Do Roosh and Aurini know each other? We must introduce them, STAT.
@inyorc:
“Roosh wants his misery to be universal – he wants to convince himself that every man feels as inadequate and alienated from women as he does, and that sexually-active women really are soiled sluts full of secret shame that he can use as a weapon against them. He has to believe that that relationships really are a cruel survival-of-the-fittest “marketplace”, otherwise he has to acknowledge that the problem might be with him. He wants to believe that the rest of the world is as desperate and sad as he is, because the alternative is confronting his own loneliness.”
This is THE WHOLE manosphere, in a nutshell: a small number of male social rejects, who are social rejects because of their warped characters.
They created the manosphere as an echo chamber where they can experience validation for all those rationalizations and confirmation biases they rely on to justify their life failures.
Confined to the comfort of their echo chamber, they do not realize — because they don’t want to and some perhaps cannot — that the world of human relationships as the rest of humanity knows it is nothing like the dark, nasty place they inhabit.
Pity the fools.
Exactly. Though by ‘dark past’, I suspect he means ‘had sex with black men’ and not a huge shocker that would be unforgivable to someone in Roosh’s general audience.
Busband knows I’ve had a lot of partners and he’s never cared, nor has he asked me my ‘number’. It’s irrelevant to him. He’s also never asked me how he compares to any of my past lovers, which I suspect is a big part of the issue these manbabies have.
Roosh doesn’t know what he wants any more. He’s even pathetic at being pathetic.
Tracy: because a small part of them knows that they’re awful in bed? They don’t want women to compare them else said women will demand that they stop halfway through sex.
If this Roosh wants to commit to a woman who never had a desire to get over someone with five other always-willing men then he is in luck. That sort of behavior is extremely rare, especially in other countries. But is he willing to expatriate to get what he wants? hmmm
Yes, clearly the greasy, disheveled simian posing with a half-eaten cracker in a seedy flat and calling women “whores” comes from the Hugo Boss table.
I can’t believe these people seriously think they have designer genes.
I find it especially rich how Rooshie-dooshie always prattles about “the elites and their useful idiots”, but his shitty blog is called “Return of Kings”. What are kings if not THE elite of all elites? And what are the loyal subjects of kings, if not the most useful (and idiotic) of useful idiots?
*snort* I’m sure they all do. They certainly seem to think it’s more important than being at the super-fun pot-luck smorgasboard wear-what-you-want decent likeable friendly person table. I’ll bring the flourless chocolate cake and silly improv games. 🙂
@Mezza
He definitely overreached when he sent his fantasy hateful slut to Africa in order for her to have an extra enormous amount of sex with black guys. Usually they leave that fictional role to “thugs” right here in the USA.
r/TheBluePill does a exemplary job of mocking and disputing TeRPer nonsense on reddit, but the highlights are usually the fantastical “field reports” of their alleged manly sexual exploits. A very few are almost believable enough to be categorized as dubious, but the majority are unadulterated #ThatHappened make-believe. These tale tales are never question because women often lie about being rape and men never lie about banging hot chicks in TeRPworld.
My take on the story about the bloke who dumped his ‘slutty’ gf when she told him about her sexual encounters in Africa is that it probably isn’t true, but if it is I would imagine she was testing him. She knew that she wanted to be honest about her past, and that he might not like it. Let’s face it she did not have to say anything and he would never have known (because our vaginas are NOT stretched beyond recognition by multiple partners!). She told him. He dumped her. She probably was relieved that they did not get more involved.
@Bina:
That’s the point, isn’t it? His problem isn’t that there are elites dominating other people, it’s that he isn’t the one doing that. He also doesn’t have a problem with people being useful idiots, so long as they are his useful idiots. Just like his problem with women isn’t that they have sex, it’s that they have sex with people who are not him, and that they have it on other terms than his.
I’d only accept one king, and that’s Rio Reiser.
From the comment section:
I’m going to make the wild assumption that this person lives in a stable country and pays absolutely no attention to anything going on in the wider world, either in the past or currently.
I took the dark past bit to mean that too. Is he worried he’ll catch blackness? I mean, do these guys think they might? Sometimes I wonder.
I’ve not had many partners myself but some of them have had very interesting pasts. It never even occurred to me that it might matter and I only know what they volunteered. My fiance – I know little of that side of her history because she doesn’t bring it up, and that’s fine. Sure I’d be interested if she wanted to tell me but it’s not going to change who she is, the person I’m marrying, so meh.
This ‘soft cuckold’ nonsense is bizarre. It’s like every single woman in the world is having sex with any given man just to annoy all of the other men in the world. Does that count double in lesbian sex or does it cancel out do you think?
I’m always curious where the logic breaks down with idiots, and by idiots I mean people with the mentality of a child – you know, blatant lies about not having done whatever it is while doing it right in front of you, rubbish justifications for hitting people, complaining about someone doing something and then doing the exact same thing to someone else, making a massive fuss about how you want x and then complaining that you really wanted y when you get it.
Oh science I’ve just described my children and the mensrightsers in the same words. To be fair at least the children don’t have an irrational hatred of well over half the population, so they’re already winning on the maturity front.
Perhaps it’s time for some brain bleach to remember there are good people and especially that there are activists who succeed in making a difference. Here is an article that made me feel good about others after reading about Roosh’s opinions.
Homeless Man Offered This Student His Last £3 For A Taxi So She’s Raised Over £20,000 For Him
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/a-homeless-man-offered-this-student-his-last-ps3-for-a-taxi?s=mobile
I’ve just reread that and it’s a touch rambling.
tl;dr – mensrightsers are idiots. Does lesbian sex count double?
@GardenGallivant:
I like how in the url he gave her his last ps3.
That’s a nice story, inspiring and positive, thanks.
It’s baffling to me how these guys look for specific types of women in specific places and then generalize the specific women they specifically choose (out of many, many, many) to the entire gender.
Yeah. I saw that story earlier.
Two nice people meet randomly in awkward circumstances. Suddenly a wonderful thing is happening for a whole community — just because they’re nice and thoughtful and caring.
I missed all of the fun last night/earlier! I love it. Truly the worstest curse. You guys are hilarious,
@Proxieme – Wow! I am more and more amazed. Not only is he awesome, but he’s awesome with every excuse in the book NOT to be. Which only goes to prove that those excuses don’t really excuse the awful behavior people want it to.
@Bina – It used to be much easier for an MRA-type to control his woman, because she had no other options. Now, they have to get downright abusive, with behavior right out of that abuse chart, to do so. They have to work harder to get less.
I really hope that realistic sex-robots DO become a real thing, and soon, because that will free up real women from these jerks.
And women who really, really, really want casual sex can enjoy their own sex-robots, without having to deal with these twerps, either.
@Paradox
Huh. I know they never told us in MY sex ed class that the vagina loosens with arousal. And I also know I have read plenty of romance novels that talk about how “ooooh, tight!” it was, like it was a good thing.
Also, Roosh says on another one of his posts – http:// www. rooshv.com /warning-signs-a-girl-isnt-worth-a-relationship – I don’t know how to do a “do not link” but the info is here for you:
One of the commenters pointed out that if she really did just have an orgasm, she would be super-wet, not drying up, and that HE’S DOING IT WRONG!
Mind you, number 5 on this list says:
So, if he experiences som “minor groin pain,” then that’s the end of the relationship, because she “caused direct harm,” that “should be criminal,” but if she doesn’t actively *encourage* him to continue hurting HER, well then, that just means she “has performed below the hand,” and “she’s useless as a living being.”
AS A LIVING BEING.
So, it looks like you’re right on both counts, Paradox. He doesn’t know, and worse, he doesn’t care.
How does this man EVER get dates? How does he ever get repeat dates? HOWWW???