You know how, in The Poseidon Adventure, the giant cruise ship gets flipped over by a huge wave and the passengers have to make their way through the upside-down ship to the bottom of the hull, which is now the top, in order to survive?
Well, the Men’s Rights subreddit is kind of like that. The only way to get upvotes is to look at everything upside-down.
See, e.g., this comment addressing the issue of rape, and why feminists allegedly lie about it:
![5HourEnergyExtra 8 points 1 day ago what motivates women and feminists to lie about rape These are really very two different questions. Women can have any number of motivations. My own speculations are that they're peer pressured into calling it rape, ashamed something happened, want attention, want revenge, or something else. But the variance is enormous. Feminists lie about rape because it's a badge of honor. Other feminists will come to them with open arms and love them forever. They also do it because it furthers he legitimacy of their movement. If any random room contains a woman who was raped then it helps the cause, even if they have to be that woman, and even if the woman in the next room is doing exactly the same thing. lie about rape statistics on all fronts to set the bar for consensual sex so high no couple in a committed relationship meets it? It validates their cause. Women have it pretty good nowadays. No violence, no discrimination in hiring, no discrimination in education, nothing bad really. They've got cat calling going against them but that seems less than spectacular. Whistle's don't hurt anyone; they're just annoying. But, sexual violence (if and only if we pretend prisoners don't exist) is at least a little bit lopsided such that women have it worse. Moreover, it's actually very bad. So, they milk it for all its worth. To do this, you need to lie about statistics, stretch the definition as far as it goes, ignore prisoners (including the 63% who are there purely on time a woman wouldn't have gotten), and say it's the dominant force in our culture and proves patriarchy. What is their agenda? If they're not oppressed than feminism is gonners. Sexual violence is still such that if they bend the statistics, it sounds like they have it worse than men with respect to sexual violence. It's the last stronghold of feminism and they need to milk this one for all it's worth. If they can't do that, then they'll have to realize they aren't oppressed and watch people lose patience for them being unambitious in legal prospects, sitting out the draft, getting a free pass through the legal system, and so on. They'll lose their privilege. What do they hope to achieve and who gets thrown under the bus in the process? What they want is to be society's special little snowflakes who we love and care for who never have to do anything at all. We get thrown in prison, raped, killed, and have our lives destroyed to make this happen for them. permalink save give gold [–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 2 points 1 day ago Nailed it.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/feministslie.png?resize=494%2C458&ssl=1)
Nailed it, indeed.
H/T — r/againstmensrights. For more “nailed it” memes, try Buzzfeed.
A master ‘bater, even.
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Deliver to Nequam, one Internet, replete with cats. Enjoy!
Heh – not specifically relevant to this thread, but this one works for misogynists of all sorts.
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I’m not sure if it’s a badge of honour, but here are my thoughts, for what’s they are worth: –
I’m a guy in my fifties, so I’m mostly perfectly satisfied with ‘neck up’ relationships with women. For me to have sex with a woman these days she needs to be very special. I still occasionally sleep with women in their twenties and thirties, but they are generally so absurd I end up having to dump them. The sex part is fun, but is not sufficient compensation for the stupidity that invariably reveals itself. Women in their forties and fifties have usually just about come to terms with themselves and so tend to be more fun.
I think I’ve had somewhat fewer than 50 sexual partners in my life, all but one of whom was a woman. Maybe a third or so really liked rough sex and urged me to be more violent than I was prepared to go. I’ve always tried to be considerate of the wishes and needs of my sexual partners, but there comes a point where I find violence off-putting. Sexual urgency, passion, hard fucking, rough sex and surrendering to pure physicality are beautiful things, but there is a line I’m not prepared to cross. Sexual experience is a learning curve, and so you learn your own boundaries, and if you’ve got any sense you develop the confidence to decline any invitation to cross them. I consider all of this to be a matter of taste, and so I’m not embarrassed on my behalf or on behalf of my partner if she wants something I’m not prepared to give. I don’t care if she says it gives her pleasure if it make me uncomfortable. I’m certain I’m not a pussy – it’s just that different people like different things. This is no different in sex than in anything else, although it is a bit more personal so some tact is merited.
I don’t think most feminists lie about rape as a badge of honour. I suspect it’s more a female psyche thing. A very high proportion of women greatly enjoy rape fantasies whether they admit it or not. Of course, that’s not to say they actually want to be raped, but there are rape scenarios that have a tremendous erotic charge to do with being overwhelmed, being able to enjoy and indulge in violent sex without having to ask for it, or even acknowledge it, the excitement of not being in control, etc. Sex is powerful. I want women to enjoy their sexuality, including whatever happens in their imaginations. There are no limits to this as far as I’m concerned – whatever makes them wet is great news to me on their behalf. However, I don’t necessarily want to be involved in this or implicated in it.
This is where some of the problem lies, in my opinion. Some people have difficulty distinguishing between fantasy and reality. The line between imagination, with all of its excitement and fears, and reality gets blurred. This is the problem that some feminists have – they let their rape fantasies out of proportion and allow them to escape from their proper place, which should be in the mind. Obviously, rape does occur in real life, but real life and fantasies are not the same.
When I read the UVA story I knew it was a rape fantasy. Of course, I couldn’t be 100% certain, but I was 99% sure. I don’t like rape porn, but I do like some porn when I’m in the mood, but it has to be vaguely believable. The characters can’t be complete caricatures or the magic disappears. I’m prepared to suspend my disbelief up to a certain point, but porn producers need to help me a bit and not make their productions completely unrealistic or I can’t focus on anything else. And that was the problem with the rape porn published in Rolling Stone magazine. For women who like that sort of stuff, you really should demand higher standards. Feminism is not serving you well.
Oh good, I’m glad we have Aporiac here to tell us what we enjoy and what we don’t. God knows we can’t just go by our actual feelings.
How kind of him to post some of the porn he wrote himself in this very thread! Like you said though, dude, gotta make it believable, and you really failed to reach that bar.
omg Aporiac. STFU. You don’t get to tell women that what they went through was just a “fantasy that they let out of proportion.”
The most common lie women tell about rape is in an effort to convince ourselves that it wasn’t really rape. Oddly enough men tell themselves the same lie.
The rape fantasy myth is one of those so bie lies men never get tired of telling.
Auto correct is ignorant of zombie lies. Silly auto correct.
@katz – I wouldn’t dream of telling you what you enjoy. My darling, there is no “we” about it. When you have sex is your partner, is he/she having sex with with you or with “we.” You really are being silly.
I for one am willing to believe that there is no “we” involved in Aporiac’s sex life.
@hebewilderness “The most common lie women tell about rape is in an effort to convince ourselves that it wasn’t really rape.” So some women do lie about rape then? My advice is not to lie.
Aporiac, you got slime all over this thread. Creepy d00d, creep back under your rock.
Your wilfull misunderstanding continues to illustrate your character.
Dude. No. All the ew.
Everyone else… I smell sock.
Goddammit, I just got out of the shower and then he called me his “darling” and now I have to go get right back in.
@Bear “You don’t get to tell women that what they went through was just a “fantasy that they let out of proportion.”
I don’t tell women anything collectively. However, fantasy and reality both exist, and are not the same things. For some susceptible people they get confused. I don’t think this is controversial claim. It seems to me your apparent belief that things are otherwise shows you to be highly credulous – precisely the kind of person who could believe anything, including about herself, lol. I don’t think I’d trust anything you say.
J.S.
Is that you?
I’m totally betting J.S. as sock-man.
(claiming he is a sock is slightly better than the idea that there are multiple of his ilk, even though there could very well be multiple of his ilk)
I’ve already said, I don’t want to be implicated in your rape fantasies, ladies. That is not to say I resent you having them. I want you to have fun, and if I provide an imaginative vehicle for this that’s also okay. But you really need to learn where the line between your imagination and me lies, lol.
Just because it’s not my thing doesn’t mean you need to feel guilty about it. Different strokes for different folks is my motto 🙂
Aw, he’s trying so hard. Bless.
I feel somewhat used, so I think I’d better leave.
One hour ago:
Another victim of our ability to scroll up.