Hey, remember that beyond-terrible “crowdsourced” GamerGate book I featured here not long ago? Well, Zoe Quinn has put together a crowdsourced dramatic reading of it! That’s it, above, if you hadn’t already figured that out.
Enjoy!
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Shame how some people never grow out of this stage, huh?
Your “citations” are all bullshit. Evo-psych bullshit.
Gozu is actually hilarious.
He posted a psychology today “article.” **snicker snort**
Pfft. From your Paychology Today article, Tion:
Author then goes on to discuss the many other possible motivations of spree killers that have nothing to do with sexual frustration.
Also, you posted the guardian article twice, so you probably didn’t really bother reading anything, you just pulled together a bunch of internet links from reputable-sounding sources.
However, the news articles are about scientists researching the link between sex (or lack) and violence. They are full of speculation. Others are about case studies like Elliot Roger, where sexual frustration (and misogyny) was in fact the primary motivator, but that doesn’t generalize to everyone.
Citing sources is more than just finding web links with titles that appear to support your pet theory, dude.
Monks, saints or angels? Well I grew up in a utopia populated by fathers, grandfathers, uncles, neighbours, schoolmates, friends, workmates, boyfriends and husbands. Adds up to thousands of men (I’m a baby boomer – thousands in my high school and I worked in an office with more than a thousand men).
Most of these men were nice in the circumstances I knew them. Only a few were people a woman would prefer to avoid for the rest of her life. A few were people you’d want to keep as friend, workmate or lover for as long as possible.
“That’s a threat. You posted a threat.”
Yeah, and all those UN doctors warning about Ebola spreading across the globe are actually the priests-servants of a plague goddess, no?
“so you “associate” with incels long enough to predict their responses, but you aren’t one at all, no sir!”
Common Hobbies and Roommates/Housemates, it is a thing, no?
“do you consider yourself outside the realm of heterosexual-man-on-the-edge-of-homocidal-breakdown?”
Outside of Superbowl :p
” “the other side” can’t handle even the most gentle criticism without going into a violent rage.”
And just what you think is happening right now? Or did Sarkeesian and Co. make it all up then?
“and this just makes me more convinced that you yourself are part of the murder-rapists, since a life of not murder-raping without an uninteruppted supply of porn is so unfathomable to you.”
What’s unfathomable to me is that you act as if you’ve never, if ever, encountered in real life the kind of guys I’m warning everyone about. Because they are too many, indeed And they are everywhere, I tell you.
Did he cite “research” from that racist d00d in psychology today who lost his job over faking his results?
Keep in mind, Tion, that your theory is that sexual frustration is the primary motivator for violence, and that the vast majority of heterosexual men will become violent without porn. Nothing you’ve “cited” even comes close to supporting that extravagant of a theory. The best they offer you is that sexual frustration can be a factor, which no one would dispute.
As for the ones that directly deal with pornography reducing sexual violence, you haven’t provided a reliable-enough source. A news article speculating about whether it might and telling just-so stories about it it could work isn’t evidence.
Wait, you think video games are incendiary topics?
Tion is hard to follow, but it sounds like he’s surprised goobergate didn’t lead to actual assault, rape and/or murder. Sarkeesian is lucky she only received threats of assault, rape and murder, because young men need sex. Or something.
Again, that’s an excellent argument that gamergaters are unreasonable misogynists, not that feminists need to shut up.
Oops, wrong double-post. It should be:
http://akarlin.com/2012/07/why-everyone-is-getting-the-aurora-shootings-wrong/
Also, I’m just a layman on the internet. If you can’t trust scientists with their own websites, who can you trust then, eh?
The confirmation bias is strong with this one. Since he runs into these guys everywhere, I suppose it means they must be everywhere.
Not that, you know, that misogynists tend to gravitate towards one another.
And women tend to rocket away from their resulting black holes of misogyny.
Huh, maybe that explains some of their lack of relationship problems…
Sorry, “Lack of Relationship” problems.
In all my years of highschool, college, and adult life, I have never personally encountered a guy who, in my eyes, was one censored porn-dvd away from a murder spree.
How many people in real life have you encountered who seem ready to commit a mass shooting if they don’t jack off enough? Be honest, here, I’m genuinely curious. Also curious if you felt they were dangerous enough to notify the FBI (or similar institution depending on where you live).
I’m totally guessing Tinfoil Tion is really Abnoy, back from his David enforced “Time-out” in this thread:
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2013/05/12/female-mra-argues-that-the-real-abusers-in-the-bbc-pedo-scandals-were-the-underage-girls/comment-page-6/
Seriously:
tsk tsk
teal deers with too many paragraph breaks, or no paragraph breaks
Calling all our guy regulars “special sunbeams” who can’t understand his ‘room-mates’ plights
feminazis
It all fits.
@Tion:
And now a blog post that talks about “beta male rages,” and blames feminism and cultural marxism and all that twaddle. And his main point is pro-gun, not pro-pornography.
You have no idea what citing sources means, do you?
Sigh, such laziness.
Anyway, here’s an actual study cited in the articles:
http://www.yapaka.be/sites/yapaka.be/files/actualite/pornography-rape-and-the-internet.pdf
Another study:
http://phys.org/news/2010-11-legalizing-child-pornography-linked-sex.html
Yet another study:
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/1961to1999/1999-pornography-rape-sex-crimes-japan.html
Same university:
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2009-pornography-acceptance-crime.html
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/28803/title/Porn–Good-for-us-/
@contrapangloss:
Not to mention strange parenthetical references and calling dudes “braggarts.” Yeah, it’s totally abnoy.
Well, what can we say, clearly our social circles trend less towards the awesome rather than the sad loser. Birds of a feather, eh?
@Kirbywarp,
Nope. He doesn’t. He really doesn’t.
Closely linked to the Gallic shrug via the Auld Alliance.
Here’s something fun.
So we have a postulate – “Some men are violent rapist murderers who will go on killing sprees if they experience frustration”.
The conclusion? Bad things, we should avoid this. That’s something everyone can agree on. Killing sprees should be minimized or eliminated.
But the magic thing is what happens next.
Because of our statement, the clear fix is to avoid ever angering or frustrating the people who will kill you. This is best solution because liberals are also against gun control, so when these people become frustrated, the persons who are now in danger can’t kill them to escape the danger.
So literally: “Because we can’t kill the people who try to kill us, we should roll over and never frustrate them so they don’t kill us”.
there are so many other ways to deal with conundrum, so many we don’t investigate or don’t think about because if we just assume
“If some people when frustrated restort to brutal, almost ritualistic cleansing violence, we could…
… help them channel their frustrations positively!
… provide easy help and aid once people experience frustration!
… have seminars and workshops on how to live a more positive experience!
… let people do things that minimize their frustration!
… create a special isolated area frustrated people can go until they are no longer frustrated!
… talk about why frustrated people feel brutal murders are the proper response to frustration, and see if we can change that!
… talk about how violence escalation is negative when trying to achieve your desires!”
and so on and so on and so on.
and yet for some reason a certain set of mind jumps straight to: “Because I can’t kill you dead the moment you scare me, clearly it’s in my best interest to never, ever scare you because you’ll kill me if you do”. What the hell happened to not killing anyone? What about not being in a society where violence is the expected answer to frustration? It’s just… I reject your premises of your hilariously broken chain of hypothethicals because they’re constrained by a small minded, bitter mental universe.